Did the coronavirus come from the Wuhan lab?

[3rdgensooner]

Seeing reports. Whatever. The type of research funded isnâ€t considered by most to technically be GoF. Some want it included in the definition. At any rate itâ€s a sideshow. The type of research detailed in that funding canâ€t and didnâ€t result in the creation of the virus causing the pandemic. Rand knows that. Fauci knows that. 
GoF research done in the way GoF is definitely defined could theoretically result in this virus although hugely unlikely. That isnâ€t what was funded though. And that tiny grant wouldnâ€t be needed by the Chinese to engage in such research.

You do see how that when I see the Ebright tweet I see that Fauci funded GoF, right?  My point here is that you can understand why people in the general public would draw that conclusion.  I mean it's not like Rand Paul is simply some jackass like AOC.  He was/is an eye surgeon.  He has a medical background, the Ebright guy obviously as well.  

I guess I'll sit back and wait for more info.  I mean if guys like Paul don't know what they are saying, I would personally like to see someone/anyone besides Fauci call him on it.  

We are living in a dangerous era of misinformation, and the political class and the msm are largely to blame for setting the table.

Fauci was quite clear on this Scar after Rand Paul brought up another example, the work of Ralph Baric that was similar to Fauci.  Dr. Baric does not do gain-of-function research but even if he did, itâ€s according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in North Carolina, not in China. 

This is again where it's pointless. He knows what Baric's doing and he doesn't define it as GoF and neither did the funding agencies. So Rand is basically calling him a liar for having a different definition of GoF. A definition most, not all, people in the field and the funding agencies agree with him on. IOW it's pointless. The funding of the research we are talking about isn't in question. It occurred. 
At any rate the dummies actually think this type of research resulted in the pandemic virus and we funded it. The research that was funded was for a type of research that could not produce this virus. The type of research that was being done in N.C.. Whether it's GoF is an argument for the virologists to have but it isn't what one traditionally calls GoF research.

I am not sure Paul or anyone else is making the definitive claim that the pandemic virus was directly caused by the GOF research in question.  I think for most, the issue is the media and Democrats sweeping it under the rug instead of someone taking an objective look at what was actually done.  I sure don't trust what the "funding agency" has to say about it since we all know, or at least should know, how corrupt the federal government is.

Rand very specifically is not making that claim. I said the dummies. The random knuckleheads like we see posting around here. I also see news stories tying this grant and research to a "lab leak". So people that don't know what's being discussed will naturally conclude we funded research that created COVID 19. Which is not supported by any of these revelations. This is not a lab created chimeric virus.

[Hightop77]

You do see how that when I see the Ebright tweet I see that Fauci funded GoF, right?  My point here is that you can understand why people in the general public would draw that conclusion.  I mean it's not like Rand Paul is simply some jackass like AOC.  He was/is an eye surgeon.  He has a medical background, the Ebright guy obviously as well.  

I guess I'll sit back and wait for more info.  I mean if guys like Paul don't know what they are saying, I would personally like to see someone/anyone besides Fauci call him on it.  

We are living in a dangerous era of misinformation, and the political class and the msm are largely to blame for setting the table.

Fauci was quite clear on this Scar after Rand Paul brought up another example, the work of Ralph Baric that was similar to Fauci.  Dr. Baric does not do gain-of-function research but even if he did, itâ€s according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in North Carolina, not in China. 

This is again where it's pointless. He knows what Baric's doing and he doesn't define it as GoF and neither did the funding agencies. So Rand is basically calling him a liar for having a different definition of GoF. A definition most, not all, people in the field and the funding agencies agree with him on. IOW it's pointless. The funding of the research we are talking about isn't in question. It occurred. 
At any rate the dummies actually think this type of research resulted in the pandemic virus and we funded it. The research that was funded was for a type of research that could not produce this virus. The type of research that was being done in N.C.. Whether it's GoF is an argument for the virologists to have but it isn't what one traditionally calls GoF research.

I am not sure Paul or anyone else is making the definitive claim that the pandemic virus was directly caused by the GOF research in question.  I think for most, the issue is the media and Democrats sweeping it under the rug instead of someone taking an objective look at what was actually done.  I sure don't trust what the "funding agency" has to say about it since we all know, or at least should know, how corrupt the federal government is.

Rand very specifically is not making that claim. I said the dummies. The random knuckleheads like we see posting around here. I also see news stories tying this grant and research to a "lab leak". So people that don't know what's being discussed will naturally conclude we funded research that created COVID 19. Which is not supported by any of these revelations. This is not a lab created chimeric virus.

We will never know for sure because the people who would know won't allow a real investigation.  I sure as hell am not buying the company line though.  Way too many "coincidences" in 2020 that worked to remove Trump from office including COVID and nationwide riots.

[3rdgensooner]

Fauci was quite clear on this Scar after Rand Paul brought up another example, the work of Ralph Baric that was similar to Fauci.  Dr. Baric does not do gain-of-function research but even if he did, itâ€s according to the guidelines and it is being conducted in North Carolina, not in China. 

This is again where it's pointless. He knows what Baric's doing and he doesn't define it as GoF and neither did the funding agencies. So Rand is basically calling him a liar for having a different definition of GoF. A definition most, not all, people in the field and the funding agencies agree with him on. IOW it's pointless. The funding of the research we are talking about isn't in question. It occurred. 
At any rate the dummies actually think this type of research resulted in the pandemic virus and we funded it. The research that was funded was for a type of research that could not produce this virus. The type of research that was being done in N.C.. Whether it's GoF is an argument for the virologists to have but it isn't what one traditionally calls GoF research.

I am not sure Paul or anyone else is making the definitive claim that the pandemic virus was directly caused by the GOF research in question.  I think for most, the issue is the media and Democrats sweeping it under the rug instead of someone taking an objective look at what was actually done.  I sure don't trust what the "funding agency" has to say about it since we all know, or at least should know, how corrupt the federal government is.

Rand very specifically is not making that claim. I said the dummies. The random knuckleheads like we see posting around here. I also see news stories tying this grant and research to a "lab leak". So people that don't know what's being discussed will naturally conclude we funded research that created COVID 19. Which is not supported by any of these revelations. This is not a lab created chimeric virus.

We will never know for sure because the people who would know won't allow a real investigation.  I sure as hell am not buying the company line though.  Way too many "coincidences" in 2020 that worked to remove Trump from office including COVID and nationwide riots.

Not sure what you mean by know for sure. A chimeric lab created virus is a Frankenstein's monster of a virus. It would be spotted. So it didn't come from that type of research. Could the Chinese have done traditional GoF and created this? They could hypothetically. The funding for the WIV is huge and they wouldn't need that small US grant to go there. If they were doing that secretly there wouldn't be any trace like that out there. 
I think the Chinese are covering up the viral origins for certain. But it still appears to be a naturally occurring virus. I do wonder if they had cases of ARDS and were covering them up and the virus continued to mutate and started human to human spread. Remember they jumped all over the doctors that first reported it? That makes me think they've been down that road before.

[Soupcity Kid]

So we have funded and possibly still are funding gof research as it relates to the corona virus?  I thought Anthony Facci said repeatedly that was not true?  Guess what it is true.

Is it possible there was a lab leak  Yes very.

Was it released intentionally Maybe

Has Faucci lied.  Absolutely.

Is there a cover up .  Yes

[Syncro]

Soup, prepare thyself for the attacks leveled by the ChinaDoc

He will not stand for your insolence towards his masters in Beijing and the CCP as a whole…

[3rdgensooner]

"I think the Chinese are covering up the viral origins for certain. But it still appears to be a naturally occurring virus. I do wonder if they had cases of ARDS and were covering them up and the virus continued to mutate and started human to human spread. Remember they jumped all over the doctors that first reported it? That makes me think they've been down that road before."

[Syncro]

"I think the Chinese are covering up the viral origins for certain. But it still appears to be a naturally occurring virus. I do wonder if they had cases of ARDS and were covering them up and the virus continued to mutate and started human to human spread. Remember they jumped all over the doctors that first reported it? That makes me think they've been down that road before."

So, your masters gave you some text to copy/paste and pretend it's relevant. You are struggling.

Fun fact: if it was naturally occurring then there is no reason for the CCP, the WHO, EcoHealth, Baric, Daszak, Fauci, Birx, etc to run defense against what they know is the truth.

But we've got the ChinaDoc, so he's gonna stick with guano...

[3rdgensooner]

When caught being dishonest the liars double down. Yes the CCP gave me text to post saying they are involved in an evil coverup. 
You donâ€t understand the subject . Way over your head. Stick to bragging it seems to be your only lane.

[Soupcity Kid]

"I think the Chinese are covering up the viral origins for certain. But it still appears to be a naturally occurring virus. I do wonder if they had cases of ARDS and were covering them up and the virus continued to mutate and started human to human spread. Remember they jumped all over the doctors that first reported it? That makes me think they've been down that road before."

Doyou mean the doctors who were in the lab that got sick first?? Those doctors?

[3rdgensooner]

"I think the Chinese are covering up the viral origins for certain. But it still appears to be a naturally occurring virus. I do wonder if they had cases of ARDS and were covering them up and the virus continued to mutate and started human to human spread. Remember they jumped all over the doctors that first reported it? That makes me think they've been down that road before."

Doyou mean the doctors who were in the lab that got sick first?? Those doctors?

No. What doctors in what lab got sick first and were jumped on by the Chinese?
Obviously Iâ€m talking about the doctor who publicly reported the outbreak and was arrested.

[Broly]

Soup, prepare thyself for the attacks leveled by the ChinaDoc

He will not stand for your insolence towards his masters in Beijing and the CCP as a whole…

It's always fun to see people go down with the ship.

[computerbuck]

Natural immunity and one vaccination may offer best protection Israeli study finds

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article...protection

[computerbuck]

[Soupcity Kid]

Natural immunity and one vaccination may offer best protection Israeli study finds

https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/article...protection

Ok you know the drill.  The Israeli study was flawed  all nut jobs just like all the nut job doctors at the Cleveland Clinic.  Ya know any doctor that is not touting the cdc company line are nutjobs but those docs there at the cdc well they are the real geniuses.

[davebucknut]

I'm still waiting for the the media to hold biden "responsible" for the covid deaths since he's been in office, like they did trump......I have a feeling that i'll be waiting a while..... 'Member' when biden said he was going to beat the Rona in his first 100 days? 

Yep under Trump they had the daily ticker and under his presidency we lost 400k Americans.  A stat which at the time included anyone who died that had covid.  Under Joe with aq vaccine and with increased knowledge how to treat we lost around 220 k Americans.  Not one ticker.

That can't br true, sooner said that covid caused all of those deaths.

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