Did the coronavirus come from the Wuhan lab?

[K9Buck]

What?!

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/202...cines.html

That was awful and dishonest or ignorant. It misuses the VAERS database in a way that has been pointed out is not the way it is intended to be used. AND he dishonestly interprets Bourla's remarks. Bourla's remarks were solely regarding two shots and catching the COVID omicron variant. The author dishonestly states that applies to severe disease and death as well. When clearly that isn't the case and isn't what Bourla said. I think it fits well in the misinformation category. Opinions are one thing but this appears to be deliberate dishonesty.

Thank you.

[Sanitarian2]

94.9 % of all covid deaths have been caused by people have 2 or more comorbidities.

That means only 5.1% of all covjd deaths have been just from covid.

https://youtube.com/shorts/dpwjTQOX_JA?feature=share


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I don't mean to be condescending here but that's a silly take, it's like saying Covid never killed anyone, their heart stopping killed them. Fat diabetics were not falling dead by the hundreds of thousands because of their comorbidities. I know these people don't deserve to live but come on, illogical take.

It shows that our response was mistargeted, we've known since day 1 that covid was really only a threat to the very old or the people who were already weak and sick.

Sure there are outliers that get a lot of media attention but mostly that is the truth.

So from day 1 everyone should've lived their lives normally and only the old, weak, and sick should've had to take drastic measures.

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I suppose it's OK to throw that 5% of the healthy Americans out with the old people bath water. To be fair, you have a point and I think that is the direction we head by the end of this year. The therapeutics are going to be the key, where most of us can get a rapid test and then take the Covid-pack and be fine in four or five days.  I also expect newly developed vaccines that will work on future variants.

I just think its nearly impossible to avoid it. So to disrupt the economy and life over something thats going to happen anyways imo is worse.

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Nobody is even pretending to try and avoid it in Ohio but you do make a good point, you can only avoid it for so long.  It's also a fair point and one that I made from day one, the restrictions and lockdowns might end up causiing far more death and suffering then the virus itself. With Omicron we basically have decided to bite it hard and see what happens.

[Sanitarian2]

Back to work for me tomorrow, today was actually my 6th day since symptoms appeared. I really only had mild congestion and a bit deeper cough. My wife tested positive yesterday, she had symptoms for a few days and even tested negative Friday morning; she had a pretty bad headache, body aches and chills, and worse congestion. Sheâ€s much better today so hopefully on the mend.

Good to hear, it pretty much mimics most of what I've heard from those that are vaccinated and get ill. (Not sure of your status). My wife's symptoms mirrored those of your wife but with a sore throat too, her's lasted a couple days and then she was fine but couldn't talk for a week. She tested positive yet on day seven and her company has a ten-day policy anyway. I either had VERY minor symptoms or was lucky and didn't get infected from the wife, grandchildren or daughter.

[davebucknut]

I don't mean to be condescending here but that's a silly take, it's like saying Covid never killed anyone, their heart stopping killed them. Fat diabetics were not falling dead by the hundreds of thousands because of their comorbidities. I know these people don't deserve to live but come on, illogical take.

It shows that our response was mistargeted, we've known since day 1 that covid was really only a threat to the very old or the people who were already weak and sick.

Sure there are outliers that get a lot of media attention but mostly that is the truth.

So from day 1 everyone should've lived their lives normally and only the old, weak, and sick should've had to take drastic measures.

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I suppose it's OK to throw that 5% of the healthy Americans out with the old people bath water. To be fair, you have a point and I think that is the direction we head by the end of this year. The therapeutics are going to be the key, where most of us can get a rapid test and then take the Covid-pack and be fine in four or five days.  I also expect newly developed vaccines that will work on future variants.

I just think its nearly impossible to avoid it. So to disrupt the economy and life over something thats going to happen anyways imo is worse.

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Nobody is even pretending to try and avoid it in Ohio but you do make a good point, you can only avoid it for so long.  It's also a fair point and one that I made from day one, the restrictions and lockdowns might end up causiing far more death and suffering then the virus itself. With Omicron we basically have decided to bite it hard and see what happens.

Between steep spikes in murders, suicides, drug OD's, missed medical treatments for heart disease and cancers, etc... has definitely caused more death and despair.



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[Arby328]

Back to work for me tomorrow, today was actually my 6th day since symptoms appeared. I really only had mild congestion and a bit deeper cough. My wife tested positive yesterday, she had symptoms for a few days and even tested negative Friday morning; she had a pretty bad headache, body aches and chills, and worse congestion. Sheâ€s much better today so hopefully on the mend.

Good to hear, it pretty much mimics most of what I've heard from those that are vaccinated and get ill. (Not sure of your status). My wife's symptoms mirrored those of your wife but with a sore throat too, her's lasted a couple days and then she was fine but couldn't talk for a week. She tested positive yet on day seven and her company has a ten-day policy anyway. I either had VERY minor symptoms or was lucky and didn't get infected from the wife, grandchildren or daughter.

We were both vaxxed and boosted. She also had a bad sore throat but itâ€s better too.

[K9Buck]

I don't know how to embed tweets from my phone, but this is pretty funny.

Weâ€re completing a full weekend of 12 NFL teams playing six games in a week where covid hit all time highs in the country & suddenly virtually no NFL player tested positive for covid. Amazing how that worked out, isnâ€t it? Someone should run the odds on this based on past weeks.

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 18, 2022

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[3rdgensooner]

Back to work for me tomorrow, today was actually my 6th day since symptoms appeared. I really only had mild congestion and a bit deeper cough. My wife tested positive yesterday, she had symptoms for a few days and even tested negative Friday morning; she had a pretty bad headache, body aches and chills, and worse congestion. Sheâ€s much better today so hopefully on the mend.

Good to hear, it pretty much mimics most of what I've heard from those that are vaccinated and get ill. (Not sure of your status). My wife's symptoms mirrored those of your wife but with a sore throat too, her's lasted a couple days and then she was fine but couldn't talk for a week. She tested positive yet on day seven and her company has a ten-day policy anyway. I either had VERY minor symptoms or was lucky and didn't get infected from the wife, grandchildren or daughter.

We were both vaxxed and boosted. She also had a bad sore throat but itâ€s better too.

Good deal. Thatâ€s what we want to hear. My best friend did the 5 day isolation and is at work today no symptoms at all.

[Iowa Mels]

I don't know how to embed tweets from my phone, but this is pretty funny.

Weâ€re completing a full weekend of 12 NFL teams playing six games in a week where covid hit all time highs in the country & suddenly virtually no NFL player tested positive for covid. Amazing how that worked out, isnâ€t it? Someone should run the odds on this based on past weeks.

— Clay Travis (@ClayTravis) January 18, 2022

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He has a point, but he should also know that the NFL changed their protocols.  Vaccinated players are only tested if they are symptomatic and anyone who tested positive earlier doesn't have to test again for something like 90 days.  So of course fewer are testing positive.

[ChinaBuck]

@Computerbuck and Amlex, I just got my booster shot. How much longer do I have to live?

[Bonebuck]

Israel has a good majority up to 4 shots but they are still getting Covid.

[davebucknut]

Looks like covid being GOF research gone bad is finally coming out




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[amlex]

a couple reasons I only drop by every now and then for this Covid discussion stuff is 1.  I have very limited-to-zero knowledge of the science of it.  I was a Math guy, not a Biology guy.  2.  The ambiguous nature of some of the discussions absolutely slays me.  f.e.  a hypothetical for dummies:  Person A:  Fauci was caught with his hand in the cookie jar.  Person B:  No he wasn't.  PA:  But the jar says COOKIE right on it.  PB:  that's clearly not a cookie jar, anyone with cookie eating knowledge and experience would know that.  PA:  there are cookie crumbs all over his face.  PB:  Define cookie for me.  Clearly anyone can see that Fauci didn't take any cookies from a cookie jar.  PA:  Did he take brownies from a cookie jar?  PB:  Brownies don't go in a cookie jar.  PA:  so you're admitting it's a cookie jar?  PB:  what are you nuts, NO!  That's clearly not a cookie jar.  Anyone can see that.    etc, etc, etc, etc, etc...  

I understand, at this point most have made up their minds and right or wrong, there's not much that can change them. Even most of us that are strong supporters of Vaccinations on this site are not for mandatory vaccination or masking requirements. I just don't give outright lies and ignorance a pass, decisions on what's best for all of us deserve the facts at least.

All Iâ€m remarking on is how a lot of the discussions appear to me.  Iâ€m not making a case against the vaccine.

This is pretty much on par with the discussion on the jab being experimental and flu and colds being capable of causing viral and bacterial pneumonia and cold viruses canâ€t cause lower respiratory infections. Even as information is being presented that clearly stated as much, there were board members who couldnâ€t be intellectually honest.

I found information that discussed how there were three beta coronaviruses that were responsible for causing SARS that were thousands of years old and wouldâ€ve been agreed upon as being cold viruses… and there was a doubling down of sorts that cold viruses canâ€t cause lower respiratory infections, even though SARS is a lower respiratory infection and coronaviruses that were considered cold viruses caused SARS. Lol!

[amlex]

It is well past time the medical boards got off their azzes and start yanking the licenses of these clowns. And no there aren't any studies ,yet, that show ivermectin and HCQ to be effective against COVID 19. The evidence against HCQ is pretty substantial though.

Have you ever prescribed a drug off label?

[amlex]

94.9 % of all covid deaths have been caused by people have 2 or more comorbidities.

That means only 5.1% of all covjd deaths have been just from covid.

https://youtube.com/shorts/dpwjTQOX_JA?feature=share


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I don't mean to be condescending here but that's a silly take, it's like saying Covid never killed anyone, their heart stopping killed them. Fat diabetics were not falling dead by the hundreds of thousands because of their comorbidities. I know these people don't deserve to live but come on, illogical take.

I donâ€t mean to be condescending here but thatâ€s a silly take, itâ€s like saying other cold viruses never killed anyone (including the ones that are thousands of years old that cause SARS), their heart stopping killed them. Oh, wait…

[P1tchblack]

If nothing else,  Amlex has shown that he's willing to throw an enormous amount of sh1t, from any location and direction, against any wall just hoping to get anything to stick.