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K9BuckLet's try again, is Jesus also God the Father or are they seperate beings?
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Thanks in advance.
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I believe in one God…

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ…consubstantial with the Father

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord….who proceeds from the father.



3 in 1 manifesting in any form necessary.

But. They are 3 distinct entities with distinct roles. But they are all 3 God

Like Daniel Webster said , I can’t know the arithmetic in heaven.


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Fully unified and equal. Echad. One. Yet also fully separate and individual.
I tell people to think about it this way…
You have a Soul, your mind, will, emotions, thoughts
You have a body. Flesh, bone, blood
You have a Spirit. All 3 of these make up who you are.
The Father is the Soul, the thinker, planner, etc (I know that’s extremely basic, just making a point)
Obviously Jesus Christ is the body
And Holy Spirit is…the spirit. (Shocker!) Lol
All 3 of these make up the Godhead, however unlike us, He can separate into each individual part.
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(12-07-2021, 02:22 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Fully unified and equal. Echad. One. Yet also fully separate and individual.
I tell people to think about it this way…
You have a Soul, your mind, will, emotions, thoughts
You have a body. Flesh, bone, blood
You have a Spirit. All 3 of these make up who you are.
The Father is the Soul, the thinker, planner, etc (I know that’s extremely basic, just making a point)
Obviously Jesus Christ is the body
And Holy Spirit is…the spirit. (Shocker!) Lol
All 3 of these make up the Godhead, however unlike us, He can separate into each individual part.

Jesus and Satan refer to God in the third person in this verse.  Why is this so if Jesus and God are one being?

Matthew 4
English Standard Version
The Temptation of Jesus
4 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 And the tempter came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” 4 But he answered, “It is written,

“‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple 6 and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written,

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,’

and

“‘On their hands they will bear you up,
lest you strike your foot against a stone.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written,

“‘You shall worship the Lord your God
and him only shall you serve.’”

11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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(12-07-2021, 03:06 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(12-07-2021, 02:22 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Fully unified and equal. Echad. One. Yet also fully separate and individual.
I tell people to think about it this way…
You have a Soul, your mind, will, emotions, thoughts
You have a body. Flesh, bone, blood
You have a Spirit. All 3 of these make up who you are.
The Father is the Soul, the thinker, planner, etc (I know that’s extremely basic, just making a point)
Obviously Jesus Christ is the body
And Holy Spirit is…the spirit. (Shocker!) Lol
All 3 of these make up the Godhead, however unlike us, He can separate into each individual part.

Jesus and Satan refer to God in the third person in this verse.  Why is this so if Jesus and God are one being?

Matthew 4
English Standard Version
The Temptation of Jesus
4 Then Jesus was led up by the Spirit into the wilderness to be tempted by the devil. 2 And after fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 And the tempter came and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, command these stones to become loaves of bread.” 4 But he answered, “It is written,

“‘Man shall not live by bread alone,
    but by every word that comes from the mouth of God.’”

5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and set him on the pinnacle of the temple 6 and said to him, “If you are the Son of God, throw yourself down, for it is written,

“‘He will command his angels concerning you,’

and

“‘On their hands they will bear you up,
    lest you strike your foot against a stone.’”

7 Jesus said to him, “Again it is written, ‘You shall not put the Lord your God to the test.’” 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. 9 And he said to him, “All these I will give you, if you will fall down and worship me.” 10 Then Jesus said to him, “Be gone, Satan! For it is written,

“‘You shall worship the Lord your God
    and him only shall you serve.’”

11 Then the devil left him, and behold, angels came and were ministering to him.

3 in 1. It’s the concept of the Trinity. People ask the same kind of questions when they ask if they are 1, how does Jesus pray to the Father? Jesus came to do the will of the Father, prays to him, and says in John 12 that He and the Father are One. He also says if you’ve seen him you’ve seen the Father.
They have individual roles and responsibilities, yet the are One. 
At Jesus baptism by John, we see all 3 of them there. God speaks, Jesus is there with John, and Holy Spirit descends upon him. 
I get that it might seem confusing, and the way I stated it before is an extremely basic concept.
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I think this will help you

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Thank you and God bless you, Orbit. Now I get it.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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(12-07-2021, 04:16 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Thank you and God bless you, Orbit.  Now I get it.
Blessings to you too K9. We’re all learning together.
Btw the Bible Project guys do a great job explaining scripture and making it easy to understand.
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(12-07-2021, 06:26 PM)Orbit1 Wrote:
(12-07-2021, 04:16 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Thank you and God bless you, Orbit.  Now I get it.
Blessings to you too K9. We’re all learning together.
Btw the Bible Project guys do a great job explaining scripture and making it easy to understand.

As John MacArthur said, faithful Christians thirst for the word of God.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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(12-07-2021, 06:26 PM)Orbit1 Wrote:
(12-07-2021, 04:16 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Thank you and God bless you, Orbit.  Now I get it.
Blessings to you too K9. We’re all learning together.
Btw the Bible Project guys do a great job explaining scripture and making it easy to understand.
Yes, they do!  Their book overviews are fantastic

No longer GroupThink 'woke'.  but it was fun while it lasted.
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(12-07-2021, 03:35 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: I think this will help you

This is a really good video.  Wife and I watched it.
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I have just read your topic. such a nice topic you have shared. Everyone believes in God and faith. I really agree with you. Thanks for sharing, God bless you.
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