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Lincoln Riley to USC
#37
(11-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:24 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:19 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:15 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:12 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The Big East at that time was a much better football conference than the Big 12 is about to become.  I just don't see a big jump coming for them especially since they have to compete against every Big 10 school in their primary recruiting area.


Now you are just talking out of your ass. 

West Virginia was in both conferences. In the revamped Big East the Mountaineers were the undisputed centerpiece of the Conference. In the new Big 12, the Mountaineers just blend right in.

The Big East had two programs contending for a national title in West Virginia and Louisville then.  Nobody left in the Big 12 now is going to compete for a title.

Neither made it anywhere near a NC. 

In the expanded CFB Playoff proposal where the top 6 Conference Champions get auto-bids, it will be a lot easier to get there from the Big 12 than from the SEC. Hence the reason Lincoln Riley took a job in a winnable P5 conference.

Not true.  If Louisville doesn't blow that game at Rutgers in 2006, they and not Florida are playing OSU and I guarantee Louisville would have won that one.  Louisville would have been even better the next year but Petrino bolted to the Falcons.  In 2005 West Virginia lost only at VPI and beat SEC champ Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.  West Virginia ranked number 2 was on the way again in 2007 but was upset by Pitt the last game of the year.  They steamrolled Oklahoma in the Fiesta.  The new Big 12 will have no national contenders.


Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.
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#38
(11-29-2021, 11:41 AM)Beastdog Wrote: Dude, the Louisville football program sucks ass. Always has, always will. A bunch of back benchers. Yeah sure they would have beaten OSU in 2006 lol. And TCU was also better than OSU in 2014.

It does now but it didn't then.
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#39
(11-29-2021, 11:45 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:24 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:19 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:15 AM)Blinky Wrote: Now you are just talking out of your ass. 

West Virginia was in both conferences. In the revamped Big East the Mountaineers were the undisputed centerpiece of the Conference. In the new Big 12, the Mountaineers just blend right in.

The Big East had two programs contending for a national title in West Virginia and Louisville then.  Nobody left in the Big 12 now is going to compete for a title.

Neither made it anywhere near a NC. 

In the expanded CFB Playoff proposal where the top 6 Conference Champions get auto-bids, it will be a lot easier to get there from the Big 12 than from the SEC. Hence the reason Lincoln Riley took a job in a winnable P5 conference.

Not true.  If Louisville doesn't blow that game at Rutgers in 2006, they and not Florida are playing OSU and I guarantee Louisville would have won that one.  Louisville would have been even better the next year but Petrino bolted to the Falcons.  In 2005 West Virginia lost only at VPI and beat SEC champ Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.  West Virginia ranked number 2 was on the way again in 2007 but was upset by Pitt the last game of the year.  They steamrolled Oklahoma in the Fiesta.  The new Big 12 will have no national contenders.


Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.

Rutgers was a top 10 team that year.
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#40
(11-29-2021, 11:40 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:07 AM)wydileie Wrote: Living in LA when you have money is quite nice. Arguably the best year round weather in the country, perhaps even the world. Someone like Riley can afford a sizable beach house in Malibu or Santa Barbara. Makes sense to me.

As for Fickell and UC, even second tier Ohio players are good enough to win the new B12. All the best Texas players will go to the major Texas schools, or be poached by nationwide programs. I'd take 3* Ohio guys over anyone the other B12 programs can recruit. Also, UC got a really highly rated QB a year or two ago who's been sitting behind Ridder. They should be able to keep it rolling for the most part. I don't see a massive dropoff for them coming next year.
If you stay in your mansion. The place is absolutely disgusting.
Malibu and Santa Barbara are far from disgusting. Perhaps near USC campus you'd have a point, but there are some true paradise-like areas in SoCal. Someone making $10M/yr (I assume Riley is going to be in that neighborhood) can live the high life in one of the most stunningly beautiful areas of the world.
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#41
(11-29-2021, 11:51 AM)wydileie Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:40 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:07 AM)wydileie Wrote: Living in LA when you have money is quite nice. Arguably the best year round weather in the country, perhaps even the world. Someone like Riley can afford a sizable beach house in Malibu or Santa Barbara. Makes sense to me.

As for Fickell and UC, even second tier Ohio players are good enough to win the new B12. All the best Texas players will go to the major Texas schools, or be poached by nationwide programs. I'd take 3* Ohio guys over anyone the other B12 programs can recruit. Also, UC got a really highly rated QB a year or two ago who's been sitting behind Ridder. They should be able to keep it rolling for the most part. I don't see a massive dropoff for them coming next year.
If you stay in your mansion. The place is absolutely disgusting.
Malibu and Santa Barbara are far from disgusting. Perhaps near USC campus you'd have a point, but there are some true paradise-like areas in SoCal. Someone making $10M/yr (I assume Riley is going to be in that neighborhood) can live the high life in one of the most stunningly beautiful areas of the world.
It could be a stunningly beautiful place but even with money there the nasty is all around. The air is filthy and so are the streets and beaches. Malibu is effing gross, disgusting. He'll have to got to USC daily and that is god awful around there. 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatch.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fmalibu%2Fmalibu-declares-local-emergency-over-homeless-encampments&psig=AOvVaw0ur-maPccTwE92dUv2SKjx&ust=1638291420112000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAkQjhxqFwoTCOi2pa6FvvQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD
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#42
(11-29-2021, 11:58 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: It could be a stunningly beautiful place but even with money there the nasty is all around. The air is filthy and so are the streets and beaches. Malibu is effing gross, disgusting. He'll have to got to USC daily and that is god awful around there. 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatch.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fmalibu%2Fmalibu-declares-local-emergency-over-homeless-encampments&psig=AOvVaw0ur-maPccTwE92dUv2SKjx&ust=1638291420112000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAkQjhxqFwoTCOi2pa6FvvQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Maybe Malibu has gone downhill since I was last there, but Santa Barbara is far removed from the LA influence (and smog). Denying SoCal is a beautiful place is simply laughable, and I say that as someone who despises their politics.
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#43
(11-29-2021, 11:46 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:45 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:24 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:19 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: The Big East had two programs contending for a national title in West Virginia and Louisville then.  Nobody left in the Big 12 now is going to compete for a title.

Neither made it anywhere near a NC. 

In the expanded CFB Playoff proposal where the top 6 Conference Champions get auto-bids, it will be a lot easier to get there from the Big 12 than from the SEC. Hence the reason Lincoln Riley took a job in a winnable P5 conference.

Not true.  If Louisville doesn't blow that game at Rutgers in 2006, they and not Florida are playing OSU and I guarantee Louisville would have won that one.  Louisville would have been even better the next year but Petrino bolted to the Falcons.  In 2005 West Virginia lost only at VPI and beat SEC champ Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.  West Virginia ranked number 2 was on the way again in 2007 but was upset by Pitt the last game of the year.  They steamrolled Oklahoma in the Fiesta.  The new Big 12 will have no national contenders.


Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.

Rutgers was a top 10 team that year.


I mean you are kind of proving my point for me. The revamped Big East was so bad that West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers were the marquis teams. 

Louisville, USF and Cincinnati still had CUSA rosters, and they were all running roughshod through that joke of a Conference. 

Once Cincy joins the Big 12, they will once again be similarly situated with Louisville, West Virginia, etc.
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#44
Heh, I forgot that the revamped Big East was so bad that even UConn made it to a BCS Bowl Game.

The revamped Big 12 is light years ahead of that clap trap.
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#45
(11-29-2021, 12:12 PM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:46 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:45 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:24 AM)Blinky Wrote: Neither made it anywhere near a NC. 

In the expanded CFB Playoff proposal where the top 6 Conference Champions get auto-bids, it will be a lot easier to get there from the Big 12 than from the SEC. Hence the reason Lincoln Riley took a job in a winnable P5 conference.

Not true.  If Louisville doesn't blow that game at Rutgers in 2006, they and not Florida are playing OSU and I guarantee Louisville would have won that one.  Louisville would have been even better the next year but Petrino bolted to the Falcons.  In 2005 West Virginia lost only at VPI and beat SEC champ Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.  West Virginia ranked number 2 was on the way again in 2007 but was upset by Pitt the last game of the year.  They steamrolled Oklahoma in the Fiesta.  The new Big 12 will have no national contenders.


Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.

Rutgers was a top 10 team that year.


I mean you are kind of proving my point for me. The revamped Big East was so bad that West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers were the marquis teams. 

Louisville, USF and Cincinnati still had CUSA rosters, and they were all running roughshod through that joke of a Conference. 

Once Cincy joins the Big 12, they will once again be similarly situated with Louisville, West Virginia, etc.

The college football landscape was much different then.  Louisville and West Virginia were regularly in the top 10 and even Rutgers and UConn were ranked.  This was back before Urbs when OSU was still trying to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust and were being left behind which is why Florida beat them like dogs.  Louisville or West Virginia would have done the same because they had more athletes at that time.  During that period Louisville put more players on NFL rosters than OSU.  Now everything revolves around the SEC and they are swallowing college football.
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#46
(11-29-2021, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 12:12 PM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:46 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:45 AM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:35 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: Not true.  If Louisville doesn't blow that game at Rutgers in 2006, they and not Florida are playing OSU and I guarantee Louisville would have won that one.  Louisville would have been even better the next year but Petrino bolted to the Falcons.  In 2005 West Virginia lost only at VPI and beat SEC champ Georgia in the Sugar Bowl.  West Virginia ranked number 2 was on the way again in 2007 but was upset by Pitt the last game of the year.  They steamrolled Oklahoma in the Fiesta.  The new Big 12 will have no national contenders.


Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.

Rutgers was a top 10 team that year.


I mean you are kind of proving my point for me. The revamped Big East was so bad that West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers were the marquis teams. 

Louisville, USF and Cincinnati still had CUSA rosters, and they were all running roughshod through that joke of a Conference. 

Once Cincy joins the Big 12, they will once again be similarly situated with Louisville, West Virginia, etc.

The college football landscape was much different then.  Louisville and West Virginia were regularly in the top 10 and even Rutgers and UConn were ranked.  This was back before Urbs when OSU was still trying to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust and were being left behind which is why Florida beat them like dogs.  Louisville or West Virginia would have done the same because they had more athletes at that time.  During that period Louisville put more players on NFL rosters than OSU.  Now everything revolves around the SEC and they are swallowing college football.

Yes, amazing that all of those teams magically got better once they didn't have to play Miami and Virginia Tech every year. Lolol. 

Rutgers has always been a chit progam. UConn was transitioning from FCS. They didn't get called up because they were good, they got called up because their basketball team was already in the Big East. Cincy, Louisville and USF were transitioning from CUSA. None of them had any business being in the Top 10, but they all were because their Conference was trash. All you had to do is build a team that can hang with West Virginia and Pitt, then BANG! You were in the NC race. 

West Virginia is nowhere near the top of the revamped Big 12. They are behind OSU2 and BYU at the very least, about at the level of maybe K-State or Iowa State.
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#47
(11-29-2021, 12:30 PM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 12:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 12:12 PM)Blinky Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:46 AM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:45 AM)Blinky Wrote: Losing to Rutgers is the exact opposite of winning a NC. 


I actually got to see Bobby Petrino the week before last. He brought his Missouri State Bears out here for a tune up before the FCS Playoffs. So that was kind of cool.

Rutgers was a top 10 team that year.


I mean you are kind of proving my point for me. The revamped Big East was so bad that West Virginia, Louisville and Rutgers were the marquis teams. 

Louisville, USF and Cincinnati still had CUSA rosters, and they were all running roughshod through that joke of a Conference. 

Once Cincy joins the Big 12, they will once again be similarly situated with Louisville, West Virginia, etc.

The college football landscape was much different then.  Louisville and West Virginia were regularly in the top 10 and even Rutgers and UConn were ranked.  This was back before Urbs when OSU was still trying to play 3 yards and a cloud of dust and were being left behind which is why Florida beat them like dogs.  Louisville or West Virginia would have done the same because they had more athletes at that time.  During that period Louisville put more players on NFL rosters than OSU.  Now everything revolves around the SEC and they are swallowing college football.

Yes, amazing that all of those teams magically got better once they didn't have to play Miami and Virginia Tech every year. Lolol. 

Rutgers has always been a chit progam. UConn was transitioning from FCS. They didn't get called up because they were good, they got called up because their basketball team was already in the Big East. Cincy, Louisville and USF were transitioning from CUSA. None of them had any business being in the Top 10, but they all were because their Conference was trash. All you had to do is build a team that can hang with West Virginia and Pitt, then BANG! You were in the NC race. 

West Virginia is nowhere near the top of the revamped Big 12. They are behind OSU2 and BYU at the very least, about at the level of maybe K-State or Iowa State.

You are proving my point.  Nothing left in the way of top programs in the B12.  Too bad Nebraska decided to take the Big10 money and run.  They might have actually done better in what the Big 12 is becoming.  Or are Ohio State fans still pimping the Huskers as a really good team?  Smile
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#48
(11-29-2021, 12:07 PM)wydileie Wrote:
(11-29-2021, 11:58 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: It could be a stunningly beautiful place but even with money there the nasty is all around. The air is filthy and so are the streets and beaches. Malibu is effing gross, disgusting. He'll have to got to USC daily and that is god awful around there. 
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fpatch.com%2Fcalifornia%2Fmalibu%2Fmalibu-declares-local-emergency-over-homeless-encampments&psig=AOvVaw0ur-maPccTwE92dUv2SKjx&ust=1638291420112000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAkQjhxqFwoTCOi2pa6FvvQCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAD

Maybe Malibu has gone downhill since I was last there, but Santa Barbara is far removed from the LA influence (and smog). Denying SoCal is a beautiful place is simply laughable, and I say that as someone who despises their politics.


What is the commute like from Santa Barbara to USC campus?
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