The "tree of knowledge" explained

[Hightop77]

Pitch being Pitch. If God is all good He canâ€t be all Powerful…Children die cause God is mean…Thereâ€s a dome!! blah blah

God isnâ€t all good. He is ALL.  He is the good AND the bad.  IMO This is what people donâ€t get

No. There is Zero bad in the Father. God is Holy, Righteous, Just, Merciful, And True. He is not evil or bad.
If He is bad He is Not Holy etc

He is also jealous, vengeful, and full of wrath and has condemned all of humanity from conception.  Sadly many Christians don't like to talk about that part.  They just like to talk about Hitler who was no more condemned than anyone else.

Mankind condemn and judge themselves


“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:18-21‬ ‭ESV

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

[P1tchblack]

Oh great....now Pitch is really going to be confused.  how can a wrathful, angry God be loving?  That must mean He isn't because He dooms children to hell....

My views are pretty much unchanged.  I think it's ya'll that are confused  

[wydileie]

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

This was kind of my earlier point. We have free will, but it is all inside a predestined plan, so it is both God condemning us, and us condemning ourselves simultaneously.

[Blinky]

My mom and I went at it.  She INSITS the Bible is all 100% true.  I Told her, Mom, you do God a disservice  by saying that the Bible is 100% true.

Nope. She still insists

Your mom would be correct.

I hear ya.  
Flood covering the face of the earth says otherwise.  It just does

No, the book about the guy who spoke mostly in parables and metaphors has to be taken 100% literal.

[Orbit1]

God isnâ€t all good. He is ALL.  He is the good AND the bad.  IMO This is what people donâ€t get

No. There is Zero bad in the Father. God is Holy, Righteous, Just, Merciful, And True. He is not evil or bad.
If He is bad He is Not Holy etc

He is also jealous, vengeful, and full of wrath and has condemned all of humanity from conception.  Sadly many Christians don't like to talk about that part.  They just like to talk about Hitler who was no more condemned than anyone else.

Mankind condemn and judge themselves


“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:18-21‬ ‭ESV

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

Sure Iâ€m not denying there a condemnation there definitely is…God condemns the sin, we bring that condemnation on ourselves by loving darkness more than light. Rejecting the Messiah and living in the flesh.

“There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death. For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. For those who live according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who live according to the Spirit set their minds on the things of the Spirit. For to set the mind on the flesh is death, but to set the mind on the Spirit is life and peace. For the mind that is set on the flesh is hostile to God, for it does not submit to Godâ€s law; indeed, it cannot. Those who are in the flesh cannot please God. You, however, are not in the flesh but in the Spirit, if in fact the Spirit of God dwells in you. Anyone who does not have the Spirit of Christ does not belong to him. But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness. If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.”
‭‭Romans‬ ‭8:1-11‬ ‭ESV

[Hightop77]

No. There is Zero bad in the Father. God is Holy, Righteous, Just, Merciful, And True. He is not evil or bad.
If He is bad He is Not Holy etc

He is also jealous, vengeful, and full of wrath and has condemned all of humanity from conception.  Sadly many Christians don't like to talk about that part.  They just like to talk about Hitler who was no more condemned than anyone else.

Mankind condemn and judge themselves


“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:18-21‬ ‭ESV

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

Sure Iâ€m not denying there a condemnation there definitely is…God condemns the sin,

This is why I have no respect for new age Christianity.  God doesn't just condemn the sin.  He condemns the sinner and that is everyone.

[Orbit1]

He is also jealous, vengeful, and full of wrath and has condemned all of humanity from conception.  Sadly many Christians don't like to talk about that part.  They just like to talk about Hitler who was no more condemned than anyone else.

Mankind condemn and judge themselves


“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:18-21‬ ‭ESV

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

Sure Iâ€m not denying there a condemnation there definitely is…God condemns the sin,

This is why I have no respect for new age Christianity.  God doesn't just condemn the sin.  He condemns the sinner and that is everyone.

So Iâ€m a New Age Christian?? I thought you said I was a Zionist Evangelical?? Haha
Says the guy that doesnâ€t think Israel is the same nation as in scripture or that Jews are actually Jews.

[lrrps21]

Religions are versions of the same untruth...

[Hightop77]

Mankind condemn and judge themselves


“Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.””
‭‭John‬ ‭3:18-21‬ ‭ESV

Romans 1 describes the condemnation of all humanity.  Paul then explains the power of the gospel to escape it.  Denying the condemnation takes you outside of Christianity.

Sure Iâ€m not denying there a condemnation there definitely is…God condemns the sin,

This is why I have no respect for new age Christianity.  God doesn't just condemn the sin.  He condemns the sinner and that is everyone.

So Iâ€m a New Age Christian?? I thought you said I was a Zionist Evangelical?? Haha
Says the guy that doesnâ€t think Israel is the same nation as in scripture or that Jews are actually Jews.

Most of Christianity doesn't believe the U.N. created Israel is the Israel of the OT.  Christian Zionism and the new age End Times nonsense is actually a relatively new creation.  But you are free to believe as you wish.

[Blinky]

Worshiping the very people that crucified your God in the flesh is an interesting twist.

[Hightop77]

Worshiping the very people that crucified your God in the flesh is an interesting twist.

A type of Stockholm Syndrome.

[Blinky]

Worshiping the very people that crucified your God in the flesh is an interesting twist.

A type of Stockholm Syndrome.

No wonder folks like Dan Cathy and Alabuck think that it is righteous to get down on your hands and knees and shine a black man's shoes, with their face about three inches from his junk.

[P1tchblack]

Two things that I want to call out here.. first, ht and K9/orbit believe in the same God and read the same book as their source for information on that God. Despite that, they really believe in completely separate gods. HTs is a vengeful dictator and, on the other side, is a God that is so graceful that he would admit someone to heaven that didn't believe in him, but was just a really good person. Both can find a scriptural basis for what they want to believe.

The second item to call out is this... Every single bad thing that happens is something that God could have prevented. Every child that is being raped right now, is being raped under the watchful eye of a God that has the ability to stop it. Every single rule that punishes a good person, like requiring the sacrifice of your own son, was put in place intentionally by the Christian God.  The same one that the majority of the posters here worship.

[K9Buck]

Pitch being Pitch. If God is all good He canâ€t be all Powerful…Children die cause God is mean…Thereâ€s a dome!! blah blah

God isnâ€t all good. He is ALL.  He is the good AND the bad.  IMO This is what people donâ€t get

God has ALL knowledge and he is permitting us to share in that knowledge by experiencing it for ourselves.  It is a pittance to pay for the infinite glory that awaits us.

[Blinky]

How many forums does P1tch troll daily?

I know of at least two.