(11-28-2021, 04:59 PM)unc4corners Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:30 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Pitch, should God have killed Hitler as a baby?
The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. Answer my question
Sure, that's one option and, as we know from Passover, the Flood and other Biblical info, God is not above killing children. Or, just protect people from Hitler in some way.
(11-28-2021, 06:15 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:30 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Pitch, should God have killed Hitler as a baby?
The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. I've seen too many examples of people that had no struggles in their youth, it not a pretty site as they go out into the world. A God that makes everything easy is not doing mankind any favors. But yeah, the suffering of children, especially your own is horrible
I'm not talking about the normal bumps and bruises of growing up. I'm talking about the millions of children that are starving to death around the world who, by no fault of their own, will never get to enjoy an eternity of bliss because they were born in India. I'm taking about the 9 year old girl being raped by her stepdad right now or the priest/coach that is grooming some innocent child and will eventually sexually assault them, scarring the for life or the parent that is putting a cigarette out on their kids back... If God is truly all-loving and all-powerful, that shouldn't happen.
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Pitch preaching morality to God. How can you top that for sheer hubris?Â
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(11-28-2021, 08:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:59 PM)unc4corners Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:30 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Pitch, should God have killed Hitler as a baby?
The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. Answer my question
Sure, that's one option and, as we know from Passover, the Flood and other Biblical info, God is not above killing children. Or, just protect people from Hitler in some way. Answer my question.
Should God have killed Hitler as a baby? It would have saved millions of innocent lives.
Now, as a baby Hitler was a sweet innocent baby. Should he have died by the hands of God as a baby?
Why won't you answer my question directly?
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(11-28-2021, 09:40 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 09:00 PM)unc4corners Wrote: (11-28-2021, 08:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:59 PM)unc4corners Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. Answer my question
Sure, that's one option and, as we know from Passover, the Flood and other Biblical info, God is not above killing children. Or, just protect people from Hitler in some way. Answer my question.
Should God have killed Hitler as a baby? It would have saved millions of innocent lives.
Now, as a baby Hitler was a sweet innocent baby. Should he have died by the hands of God as a baby?
Why won't you answer my question directly?
I won't answer your question because I am not particular toward one option. If God wanted to kill baby hitler, that's fine. Maybe baby Hitler's mom can have a miscarriage or baby Hitler can get kicked in the head by an angry mule or choke to death on an apricot seed. I don't care. My issue isn't that God doesn't do one specific action. My issue is that it is claimed that he is all loving and all-powerful, yet does absolutely nothing to protect those who believe in him and, more specifically, innocent children.
5 million children die every year before the age of five. Many of them starved to death in places like India, in conditions not fit for an animal. A truly all loving and all powerful God would not allow that to happen. Either he is not all loving, not all powerful or simply does not exist. If God exists those babies would go straight to Heaven whereas if they continued living many would probably end up in Hell for their eternity. Â
Let me ask you a question.  If God really does exist would YOU rather be killed/starved as a child and go straight to Heaven for eternity (500 trillion years....) or live out YOUR life (80+ years) as an unrepentant YOU and die to spend eternity in Hell?
What would you choose?
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I'd choose Heaven.
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(11-28-2021, 08:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 06:15 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:30 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Pitch, should God have killed Hitler as a baby?
The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. I've seen too many examples of people that had no struggles in their youth, it not a pretty site as they go out into the world. A God that makes everything easy is not doing mankind any favors. But yeah, the suffering of children, especially your own is horrible
I'm not talking about the normal bumps and bruises of growing up. I'm talking about the millions of children that are starving to death around the world who, by no fault of their own, will never get to enjoy an eternity of bliss because they were born in India. I'm taking about the 9 year old girl being raped by her stepdad right now or the priest/coach that is grooming some innocent child and will eventually sexually assault them, scarring the for life or the parent that is putting a cigarette out on their kids back... If God is truly all-loving and all-powerful, that shouldn't happen. Why shouldn't it happen, because you don't like it, because you can't understand it?
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Now we are getting closer with that question
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(11-28-2021, 09:59 PM)Blinky Wrote: I'd choose Heaven.
If Hell exists, then they play nothing but Rap and R&B 24/7. And commercial country.
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(11-28-2021, 10:07 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 08:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 06:15 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:30 PM)unc4corners Wrote: Pitch, should God have killed Hitler as a baby?
The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. I've seen too many examples of people that had no struggles in their youth, it not a pretty site as they go out into the world. A God that makes everything easy is not doing mankind any favors. But yeah, the suffering of children, especially your own is horrible
I'm not talking about the normal bumps and bruises of growing up. I'm talking about the millions of children that are starving to death around the world who, by no fault of their own, will never get to enjoy an eternity of bliss because they were born in India. I'm taking about the 9 year old girl being raped by her stepdad right now or the priest/coach that is grooming some innocent child and will eventually sexually assault them, scarring the for life or the parent that is putting a cigarette out on their kids back... If God is truly all-loving and all-powerful, that shouldn't happen. Why shouldn't it happen, because you don't like it, because you can't understand it? It shouldn't happen period. And if I created the Universe and had absolute power it would not happen. Silly excuses and moral gymnastics by believers of this crap doesn't change that. Babies die because Eve boffed Adam or some such chit? Get real. If Adam stole something do I have to go to jail?
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(11-28-2021, 10:39 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: (11-28-2021, 10:07 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 08:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-28-2021, 06:15 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: The better question is why God setup Adam and Eve to fail, knowing that they would fail, and create a world full of evil where God offers no protection to even innocent children much less his 'chosesn' people. I've seen too many examples of people that had no struggles in their youth, it not a pretty site as they go out into the world. A God that makes everything easy is not doing mankind any favors. But yeah, the suffering of children, especially your own is horrible
I'm not talking about the normal bumps and bruises of growing up. I'm talking about the millions of children that are starving to death around the world who, by no fault of their own, will never get to enjoy an eternity of bliss because they were born in India. I'm taking about the 9 year old girl being raped by her stepdad right now or the priest/coach that is grooming some innocent child and will eventually sexually assault them, scarring the for life or the parent that is putting a cigarette out on their kids back... If God is truly all-loving and all-powerful, that shouldn't happen. Why shouldn't it happen, because you don't like it, because you can't understand it? It shouldn't happen period. And if I created the Universe and had absolute power it would not happen. Silly excuses and moral gymnastics by believers of this crap doesn't change that. Babies die because Eve boffed Adam or some such chit? Get real. If Adam stole something do I have to go to jail?
You are definitely very compassionate to your fellow man; particular those that are quite a bit less fortunate than yourself.Â
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I would love to have participated in the conversation, but it was clear that Pitch, with his fervent hatred of all things Christian, has once again destroyed what could have been a fruitful discussion.
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