Which of you refuse to be vaccinated and why, please?

[davebucknut]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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[davebucknut]

Went to the dentist this morning.  My dentist's daughter is a hospitalist at one of the local hospitals.  She has been working like crazy and seeing lots of young people hospitalized because of Covid.  Her daughter has also told her that the patients have some strange symptoms - pneumo-thorax and blood clots.  She said one 28 year old is in really bad shape.

I asked if her daughter noticed a difference between vaccinated and unvaccinated patients.  She said the overwhelming majority (around 90%) of the patients are unvaccinated.  

Just an anecdote, not filtered through any kind of media bias.  Posted for information purposes only (not trying to push any kind of agenda).

I rend to agree with this, I did get vaxxed, but I can still think that we need a better vaccine and more studies on which are the safest and most effective.

I am not someone who thinks we should ve getting 3 or 4 booster shots already.

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[3rdgensooner]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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Sorry for posting medical and scientific research. The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.

[amlex]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

[P1tchblack]

FBI arrests Oath Keepers leader on Jan. 6 charges

PHOENIX (3TV/CBS 5) -- Staffing continues to be a top concern for Arizona hospitals.

The Arizona Department of Health Services said the state went to the federal government Monday, asking paramedics to assist five valley hospitals. They include Banner New River, Valleywise, Arizona General Laveen, Abrazo Central Campus and Scottsdale Osborn.

The paramedics would work alongside nurses, helping in emergency rooms and supporting medical-surgical staffing. The state requested four paramedics to work in each hospital.


https://thehill.com/policy/national-secu...-6-charges

[davebucknut]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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Sorry for posting medical and scientific research. The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.

In general I've seen you brush off a lot of valid information from credible sources. Such as people who worked on the New vaccine technology, lab workers, etc... and always take the side of fauci.

So whatever your beef is with Amlex has nothing to do with you mocking legitimate people.

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[zigbee]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

Wait....you belly ache about attacks yet you have no boundary of your own?  WTF?  I'd suggest of not wondering why they go down when you make these posts ^^^^^^^^^^ like you just did.

And don't be surprised if it comes next.  I've ASKED AND ASKED to try and get along but you guy just continue down this road of stirring the pot and when you get it handed to you we see posts of bias and belly aching.  GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!!!!!  When you poke the bear you get bitten hard.  Now, I let you have your say despite you saying I show bias.  I don't have bias in least.   What I see is you and Dave just continuing to hammer this more and more.

[amlex]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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Sorry for posting medical and scientific research. The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.

Dave understands that my position is considerably more nuanced than your inability to apply basic reading comprehension. You stated that viruses are incapable of causing bacterial pneumonia, even after being provided links to websites such as the Mayo Clinic that clearly states this possibility. For being such an enlightened physician, you seem to lack basic common sense… CoVid cOuGhs aRe drY aNd i dOnT kNoW hoW tO mAKeS tHeM wEt cOuGhS, sO sEes, gUaiFenEsIn iS uSeLeSs fOr cOVaIdS.

[davebucknut]

Scotus blocked the vax mandate today for companies with more than 100 employees, but allowed it for certain HC workers.

So some HC workers will have to have it but not all.

Boy scotus sure does like to ride the fence

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[amlex]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

Wait....you belly ache about attacks yet you have no boundary of your own?  WTF?  I'd suggest of not wondering why they go down when you make these posts ^^^^^^^^^^ like you just did.

And don't be surprised if it comes next.  I've ASKED AND ASKED to try and get along but you guy just continue down this road of stirring the pot and when you get it handed to you we see posts of bias and belly aching.  GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!!!!!  When you poke the bear you get bitten hard.  Now, I let you have your say despite you saying I show bias.  I don't have bias in least.   What I see is you and Dave just continuing to hammer this more and more.

I hope you understand the distinction between 3rdgen calling a person mentally ill and schizophrenic, versus calling 3rdgen out because he refuses to engage in an honest dialogue.

You can go back through this thread and youâ€ll find that Iâ€ve tried to engage 3rdgen in an honest discussion countless times over.

You publicly called out my post as well as Dave, but why didnâ€t the following retort catch the same public scrutiny?:

“The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.” - 3rdgen to Dave, discussing me.

You should be just as aware that 3rdgen has misrepresented what Iâ€ve stated and calling Daveâ€s position “moronic as per usual” is more of a personal attack than anything found in my referenced post.

[zigbee]

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

Wait....you belly ache about attacks yet you have no boundary of your own?  WTF?  I'd suggest of not wondering why they go down when you make these posts ^^^^^^^^^^ like you just did.

And don't be surprised if it comes next.  I've ASKED AND ASKED to try and get along but you guy just continue down this road of stirring the pot and when you get it handed to you we see posts of bias and belly aching.  GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!!!!!  When you poke the bear you get bitten hard.  Now, I let you have your say despite you saying I show bias.  I don't have bias in least.   What I see is you and Dave just continuing to hammer this more and more.

I hope you understand the distinction between 3rdgen calling a person mentally ill and schizophrenic, versus calling 3rdgen out because he refuses to engage in an honest dialogue.

You can go back through this thread and youâ€ll find that Iâ€ve tried to engage 3rdgen in an honest discussion countless times over.

You publicly called out my post as well as Dave, but why didnâ€t the following retort catch the same public scrutiny?:

“The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.” - 3rdgen to Dave, discussing me.

You should be just as aware that 3rdgen has misrepresented what Iâ€ve stated and calling Daveâ€s position “moronic as per usual” is more of a personal attack than anything found in my referenced post.

He is right.   I trust people in medical profession much more than random guys promoting mucinex etc.

[amlex]

Why are you posting? Not bothering with it and you're cluttering up the thread.

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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Sorry for posting medical and scientific research. The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.

In general I've seen you brush off a lot of valid information from credible sources. Such as people who worked on the New vaccine technology, lab workers, etc... and always take the side of fauci.

So whatever your beef is with Amlex has nothing to do with you mocking legitimate people.

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He brushed off at least two credible sources that discussed that bacterial pneumonia could be caused by viruses (it also stated that cold and flu viruses could cause viral pneumonia, which he stated was unique to COVID pneumonia). He brushed off a credible ALS site that discussed the benefits of guaifenesin in preventing pneumonia. He brushed off a Marekâ€s disease study because it centered on animals, even though animal testing is quite common and has biological crossover to humans. He dismissed two FDA links that discussed the traditional timelines and testing protocols and what constituted an experimental drug. Heâ€s dismissed so many credible sources, that I find it rather unbelievable from a medical professional.

[davebucknut]

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

Wait....you belly ache about attacks yet you have no boundary of your own?  WTF?  I'd suggest of not wondering why they go down when you make these posts ^^^^^^^^^^ like you just did.

And don't be surprised if it comes next.  I've ASKED AND ASKED to try and get along but you guy just continue down this road of stirring the pot and when you get it handed to you we see posts of bias and belly aching.  GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!!!!!  When you poke the bear you get bitten hard.  Now, I let you have your say despite you saying I show bias.  I don't have bias in least.   What I see is you and Dave just continuing to hammer this more and more.

I hope you understand the distinction between 3rdgen calling a person mentally ill and schizophrenic, versus calling 3rdgen out because he refuses to engage in an honest dialogue.

You can go back through this thread and youâ€ll find that Iâ€ve tried to engage 3rdgen in an honest discussion countless times over.

You publicly called out my post as well as Dave, but why didnâ€t the following retort catch the same public scrutiny?:

“The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.” - 3rdgen to Dave, discussing me.

You should be just as aware that 3rdgen has misrepresented what Iâ€ve stated and calling Daveâ€s position “moronic as per usual” is more of a personal attack than anything found in my referenced post.

Zigbee only ever makes a general statement of "let's get along" when sooner goes unhinged, but will quote you or I and publicly admonish us.

Same as synchro.

I guess its good to be zigbees friend.

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[davebucknut]

How cute… I see when youâ€re put on a leash youâ€re still incapable of adding anything of value to the discussion.

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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Sorry for posting medical and scientific research. The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.

In general I've seen you brush off a lot of valid information from credible sources. Such as people who worked on the New vaccine technology, lab workers, etc... and always take the side of fauci.

So whatever your beef is with Amlex has nothing to do with you mocking legitimate people.

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He brushed off at least two credible sources that discussed that bacterial pneumonia could be caused by viruses (it also stated that cold and flu viruses could cause viral pneumonia, which he stated was unique to COVID pneumonia). He brushed off a credible ALS site that discussed the benefits of guaifenesin in preventing pneumonia. He brushed off a Marekâ€s disease study because it centered on animals, even though animal testing is quite common and has biological crossover to humans. He dismissed two FDA links that discussed the traditional timelines and testing protocols and what constituted an experimental drug. Heâ€s dismissed so many credible sources, that I find it rather unbelievable from a medical professional.

At the end of the day just because he is a doctor doesn't mean that he's a good doctor nor is versed in quality care of covid patients.

Based on his attitude towards treatments I would say he's probably a very poor doctor and likely has a large death count.

Right to try legislation? Not on sooners watch.

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[zigbee]

All he does is post medical reports that mostly originate from the cdc or who and are then repackaged in an article and he posts it like we should take it seriously.

We all know that the covid narrative is misguided at best and corrupt at worst, but nope... he still pushes the msm narrative regardless.

What makes matters worse is that he admitted that the msm lies about most everything, but yet buys the msm/eho/cdc narrative quicker than 1 dollar an acre land.

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I just find it fascinating that heâ€s incapable of discussing what the clinical benefits are of symptom relief medication. What role they play in getting rest or good air flow, and how that relates to getting a person healthy.

He also just literally said COVID coughs are dry and he seems oblivious that they sell these devices that are capable of helping a dry cough become wet and when used in tandem with an expectorant, help an individual maintain a productive cough. A simple search of Google will provide “humidifier” as the number 2 method for treating a dry cough.

If heâ€s really is a medical doctor, Iâ€d steer clear of him simply because he comes across as a greased hand physician, who will prescribe only what yields the biggest pharmaceutical company kickbacks. Throw in that heâ€s matter of fact diagnosing people of mental illnesses without a single in person consultation… no real doctor would ever be so cavalier or reckless.

Wait....you belly ache about attacks yet you have no boundary of your own?  WTF?  I'd suggest of not wondering why they go down when you make these posts ^^^^^^^^^^ like you just did.

And don't be surprised if it comes next.  I've ASKED AND ASKED to try and get along but you guy just continue down this road of stirring the pot and when you get it handed to you we see posts of bias and belly aching.  GIVE IT A REST!!!!!!!!!!!  When you poke the bear you get bitten hard.  Now, I let you have your say despite you saying I show bias.  I don't have bias in least.   What I see is you and Dave just continuing to hammer this more and more.

I hope you understand the distinction between 3rdgen calling a person mentally ill and schizophrenic, versus calling 3rdgen out because he refuses to engage in an honest dialogue.

You can go back through this thread and youâ€ll find that Iâ€ve tried to engage 3rdgen in an honest discussion countless times over.

You publicly called out my post as well as Dave, but why didnâ€t the following retort catch the same public scrutiny?:

“The opinions of people with no education in the field are so much more enlightening. Your take is completely moronic as per usual. You are answering a guy who thinks mucinex will impact the course of COVID significantly among other amazingly bizarre things he's posted. This isn't a political debate but a reality debate.” - 3rdgen to Dave, discussing me.

You should be just as aware that 3rdgen has misrepresented what Iâ€ve stated and calling Daveâ€s position “moronic as per usual” is more of a personal attack than anything found in my referenced post.

Zigbee only ever makes a general statement of "let's get along" when sooner goes unhinged, but will quote you or I and publicly admonish us.

Same as synchro.

I guess its good to be zigbees friend.

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Actually, can you list how you have been harmed in any this? By me ASKING you to try and get along?  I fully allow you to make your comments without any punitive measures.    My request was met by 3rd Gen and he showed restraint and then back you 2 came with comments vs him immediately.    This is why I asked you just let it go but no, it continues and continues and continues.

With that I'll lock this as this thread has really come to a dead end.