July 16, 2021 Arizona Election Update

[3rdgensooner]

The whole Russia/Trump thing was a complete farce. It highlighted how corrupt the Dems are , including overwhelmingly liberal government employees, and just how stupid and incompetent our law enforcement and "intelligence" agencies are at the federal level. 
Whether or not there was any problem at all with the last election I'm fine with a quid pro quo delegitimizing the moron duo's election. The election steal narrative is far more well founded than "collusion" ever was and yet we had a bunch of incompetent corrupt losers "investigating" it for years.

[P1tchblack]

Mueller report:

The Presidentâ€s efforts to influence the investigation were mostly unsuccessful, but that is largely because the persons who surrounded the President declined to carry out orders or accede to his requests. [Former FBI Director James] Comey did not end the investigation of [Retired Lt. Gen. Michael] Flynn, which ultimately resulted in Flynnâ€s prosecution and conviction for lying to the FBI. [White House counsel Don] McGahn did not tell the Acting Attorney General that the Special Counsel must be removed, but was instead prepared to resign over the Presidentâ€s order. [Former campaign manager Corey] Lewandowski and [Trump campaign official Rick] Dearborn did not deliver the Presidentâ€s message to Sessions that he should confine the Russia investigation to future election meddling only. And McGahn refused to recede from his recollections about events surrounding the Presidentâ€s direction to have the Special Counsel removed, despite the Presidentâ€s multiple demands that he do so. Consistent with that pattern, the evidence we obtained would not support potential obstruction charges against the Presidentâ€s aides and associates beyond those already filed.

So you are still reciting a section of a report that cites General Flynn's "conviction" for false statements even though THAT was also proven to be a total fraud and abuse of power by the FBI?  Because of your complete reliance on the MSM you are totally and completely misinformed about everything related to that witch hunt. 

The Mueller report seems pretty clear on 3 things:

1. Trump and his people did not collude with Russia to interfere with the election
   
2. Trump attempted to use his influence on people to get them to interfere with the investigation
   
3. Trump and his peoples' behaviors as it relates to Hillary's emails is irresponsible and unethical, but probably not illegal.
   

It's not surprising that you agree with the Mueller report on the things you want to believe, and that your news sources tell you should be believed, but not the other things.... because your news sources are as biased as CNN, just in the opposite direction.

There's some good, unbiased, information about the Mueller report.  You should try it sometime:



https://www.lawfareblog.com/notes-muelle...ding-diary

If Trump had done anything remotely close to legally obstructing justice, Mueller's team of thugs would have recommended impeaching him. 

Right... Trump didn't, himself, try to obstruct the investigation.  He tried to get other people to do it for him.  And what he did may not even legally constitute "obstruction", but it's clear that he was trying to use his influence to interfere with the investigation.  That is completely unethical and possibly illegal.

What you are completely failing to grasp is the fundamental dishonesty of the Mueller report.  While it had little choice other than to exonerate Trump on the phony Russia collusion accusations, it did not report on the source of the phony narrative or refer it for more investigation.  Hard to believe the level of naivete I see from you.

Not reporting on one aspect that you believe should have been reported doesn't make the report dishonest.

[Beastdog]

Pitchblack is a retard.

[Hightop77]

Pitchblack is a retard.

Based on post #77, I agree.

[P1tchblack]

Something to consider.....

So, I saw the 74k ballot story from Gateway Pundit, and watched the video of Logan explaining what he believed to be true about EV32 and EV33's,  and that he believed going door to door may be necessary to reconcile the issue.  I then Googled variations of 74k and Maricopa County audit to find some other information.  I didn't initially find anything that explained it, but I eventually found the AP article that has Maricopa County's explanation for how EV32/33 are actually used.

How many of you did the same?  

How many of you, by default, write off anything from Maricopa County (cheaters!), the Associated Press (MSM!) or ANY other news outlet that would actually provide the explanation that Gateway Pundit will NEVER provide?

I suspect that most of you, had an explanation not been posted in this thread, would have gone through the rest of your lives believing Cyber Ninjas/Logan and honestly believing his ridiculously dangerous claim that going door to door was necessary because the possibility of fraud was so serious.

I hope all the election conspiracy theorists here realize that you will NEVER hear anything but conspiracy theories BECAUSE you only look at, and accept as truth, information from sites like Gateway Pundit.  You are all putting yourselves in situations where you can never hear anything but one side of every claim.

[Alabuckeye]

How many realize this is by and large Republicans fighting? Maricopa Cty IIRC was predominantly a Republican election board, and Wendy Green and her folks are Republican as well. Republicans accusing Republicans of cheating?

[Hightop77]

How many realize this is by and large Republicans fighting?  Maricopa Cty IIRC was predominantly a Republican election board, and Wendy Green and her folks are Republican as well.  Republicans accusing Republicans of cheating?

Wow, lots of Republican politicians don't like Trump and didn't support his election or re-election?  That seems absurd. 

[P1tchblack]

P1tch asserts obvious collusion YET pivots to Mueller report to show they found NONE????????????????????   Awesome.

Or, I actually said the opposite of that, but whatever..

[zigbee]

Well said.  It's why I gotta hand to these little bulldogs on the ground that refuse to being cowed into goose stepping along to the BS narrative that Joe Biden legitimately won this election.  Keep digging, as I assume there's enough in the battle ground states to rub the Dem's nose in sh1t for the foreseeable future.  Find enough fraud and the fact that there is absolutely ZERO mandate for what they are doing will only be amplified even further.

But as with everything else, the problem is the media.  It wouldn't matter if it was determined by the audits that Trump won 50 states.  75% of the people in America would never hear about it and just to make sure the media would employ the usual smear tactics to discredit the fraud detectors.  They have been doing that since the election anyway just to make sure.  Until we solve the problem of the people who control the media, nothing much is ever going to get fixed.

Lol.... If even ONE state determined, after an audit, that the winning candidate was flipped, that is ALL you'd hear about for weeks in print and TV.

You mean like the MSM reported that the Russia collusion hoax they used to beat Trump over the head for 3 years was actually collusion between Russia and Hillary Clinton and that Trump was innocent?  LOL  Yeah, we are still waiting for that.  You really don't get it, do you?

I didn't follow the Russia collusion story very closely, so I can't say what is/isn't true.  It's seems pretty clear, based on summaries I've read, that Trump did not collude with Russia, but was clearly guilty of obstruction.

Either way, that's why you don't trust any one news source, especially garbage outlets like Gateway Pundit.

P1tch asserts obvious obstruction  YET pivots to Mueller report to show they found NONE????????????????????   Awesome.

Or, I actually said the opposite of that, but whatever..

Clearly guilty of obstruction you wrote above .   But whatever

[P1tchblack]

But as with everything else, the problem is the media.  It wouldn't matter if it was determined by the audits that Trump won 50 states.  75% of the people in America would never hear about it and just to make sure the media would employ the usual smear tactics to discredit the fraud detectors.  They have been doing that since the election anyway just to make sure.  Until we solve the problem of the people who control the media, nothing much is ever going to get fixed.

Lol.... If even ONE state determined, after an audit, that the winning candidate was flipped, that is ALL you'd hear about for weeks in print and TV.

You mean like the MSM reported that the Russia collusion hoax they used to beat Trump over the head for 3 years was actually collusion between Russia and Hillary Clinton and that Trump was innocent?  LOL  Yeah, we are still waiting for that.  You really don't get it, do you?

I didn't follow the Russia collusion story very closely, so I can't say what is/isn't true.  It's seems pretty clear, based on summaries I've read, that Trump did not collude with Russia, but was clearly guilty of obstruction.

Either way, that's why you don't trust any one news source, especially garbage outlets like Gateway Pundit.

P1tch asserts obvious obstruction  YET pivots to Mueller report to show they found NONE????????????????????   Awesome.

Or, I actually said the opposite of that, but whatever..

Clearly guilty of obstruction you wrote above .   But whatever

You're right. He did not collude, but tried to obstruct .  By no fault of his own, he was unsuccessful.

[Alabuckeye]

How many realize this is by and large Republicans fighting?  Maricopa Cty IIRC was predominantly a Republican election board, and Wendy Green and her folks are Republican as well.  Republicans accusing Republicans of cheating?

Wow, lots of Republican politicians don't like Trump and didn't support his election or re-election?  That seems absurd. 

So, the Republican Maricopa election board was in the tank with the Democrats?  That's the result of this?

Gotcha.

[P1tchblack]

How many realize this is by and large Republicans fighting?  Maricopa Cty IIRC was predominantly a Republican election board, and Wendy Green and her folks are Republican as well.  Republicans accusing Republicans of cheating?

Wow, lots of Republican politicians don't like Trump and didn't support his election or re-election?  That seems absurd. 

So, the Republican Maricopa election board was in the tank with the Democrats?  That's the result of this?

Gotcha.

No, no, no.... this has been discussed before.  It's not just Republicans in Maricopa County, it's Republicans across the country, at every level of government and in the judicial system (including Trump appointed judges, I believe) that are ALL in on The Steal.  Even neutral parties, like Justin Amash, are part of the cover-up.

[3rdgensooner]

Democrats across the country are clearly obstructing investigations into election fraud. Time for Mueller et al to get to investigating. In 3-4 years they should have some dopey muddled report ready.

[Hightop77]

How many realize this is by and large Republicans fighting?  Maricopa Cty IIRC was predominantly a Republican election board, and Wendy Green and her folks are Republican as well.  Republicans accusing Republicans of cheating?

Wow, lots of Republican politicians don't like Trump and didn't support his election or re-election?  That seems absurd. 

So, the Republican Maricopa election board was in the tank with the Democrats?  That's the result of this?

Gotcha.

Brad Raffensperger.

[P1tchblack]

Arizona GOP Audit Director Barred From Recount After Sharing Data Supporting Trump Loss

The Republican overseeing the controversial GOP-backed election audit in Arizona has reportedly been banned from entering the building where the recount process is ongoing, after he shared some data with experts that showed the results match the officially certified numbers in Maricopa County.

The Arizona Republic reported on Friday evening that Ken Bennett, Arizona's former Secretary of State who has been described as the audit's "director," was barred from entering the building on the state fairgrounds where the audit is moving forward. The newspaper reported that Bennett had shared some of the audit data with outside experts showing that the ballot recount was tracking "very closely" with Maricopa County's certified results.

Cyber Ninjas, the Florida-based company conducting the audit on behalf of the state's Senate Republicans, told the publication that state Senate President Karen Fann, a Republican, made the decision to block Bennett from the building. Newsweek reached out to Fann for further comment but did not immediately receive a response.

https://www.newsweek.com/arizona-gop-aud...ss-1612791