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zigbeeHigh Court opens up the door now for NCAA students earning extra cash
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The Supreme Court ruled in a unanimous decision Monday that the NCAA has illegally restricted education-based benefits that could be used as compensation to student athletes.

The case was brought by current and former student athletes who played college football, as well as men's and women's college basketball. They sued the NCAA and 11 conferences, claiming that the rules restricting compensation violated antitrust laws. A lower court ruling maintained the NCAA's rules of generally forbidding payment to student athletes, while allowing for education-related aid. The students accepted this, but the NCAA fought it, eventually bringing the case to the high court.



"To the extent [the NCAA] means to propose a sort of judicially ordained immunity from the terms of the Sherman Act for its restraints of trade—that we should overlook its restrictions because they happen to fall at the intersection of higher education, sports, and money—we cannot agree," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the court's opinion.

Gorsuch made clear that the athletic organization can still enforce rules that forbid schools from paying students salaries or giving them outlandish gifts to lure them to their programs.

"Under the current decree, the NCAA is free to forbid in-kind benefits unrelated to a studentâ€s actual education; nothing stops it from enforcing a ‘no Lamborghini†rule," he said.

Justice Brett Kavanaugh, in a concurring opinion, took the NCAA to task, arguing that even the remaining restrictions are questionable.


"I add this concurring opinion to underscore that the NCAAâ€s remaining compensation rules also raise serious questions under the antitrust laws," Kavanaugh wrote, making clear that the courtâ€s decision "does not address the legality" of those rules because they were not at issue on appeal.

Kavanaugh went on to make a case against those remaining rules.

"The NCAA acknowledges that it controls the market for college athletes. The NCAA concedes that its compensation rules set the price of student athlete labor at a below-market rate. And the NCAA recognizes that student athletes currently have no meaningful ability to negotiate with the NCAA over the compensation rules," he wrote. He went on to attack NCAAâ€s past argument that the rules are procompetitive because they help define college sports as featuring unpaid amateurs, calling this claim "circular and unpersuasive."

Kavanaugh then compared the NCAA to other industries, noting the absurdity of suggesting that nurses†wages should be capped because it would make their work "purer," or that restaurant customer prefer eating food made by low-paid cooks.


"The NCAAâ€s business model would be flatly illegal in almost any other industry in America," Kavanaugh said.

"Nowhere else in America can businesses get away with agreeing not to pay their workers a fair market rate on the theory that their product is defined by not paying their workers a fair market rate. And under ordinary principles of antitrust law, it is not evident why college sports should be any different," he concluded. "The NCAA is not above the law."
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This will likely hurt everyone that it's intended to help. I guess the star QB at OSU should be paid at the same rate as someone on the OSU softball team.
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(06-21-2021, 01:51 PM)maize Wrote: This will likely hurt everyone that it's intended to help. I guess the star QB at OSU should be paid at the same rate as someone on the OSU softball team.

Title 9 could create lots of sports being removed, especially if you have to buy football and basketball players. Let the bidding wars begin.

The kids will also get educated on the taxes they will have to pay.

Harvard has a $50 billion endowment, they could buy a really good football team.
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I have no problem with parts of this.  I mean they cannot make money on their own items such as their autograph yet a dealer can?  Their name and likeness used in a vido game that makes hundreds of millions and they get nothing??

Now the down side is how do you or do you regulate fairly?

Yes title 9 may go away hell the NCAA may go away.

For the players though and I do not know all the details but if this is considered part of their work then their education needs to be considered income.

Again I do not want things to be like this but these are the challenges now presented.  I have little problem with the players getting some sorts of income off this so please do not this is a jealousy thing.  I do feel however this will change college sports as we know it.  We shall see.
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(06-21-2021, 02:09 PM)AlumneyeJ93 Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 01:51 PM)maize Wrote: This will likely hurt everyone that it's intended to help. I guess the star QB at OSU should be paid at the same rate as someone on the OSU softball team.

Title 9 could create lots of sports being removed, especially if you have to buy football and basketball players. Let the bidding wars begin.

The kids will also get educated on the taxes they will have to pay.

Harvard has a $50 billion endowment, they could buy a really good football team.
1. I don't think that they ever thought about TAXES!!!!

2. Be prepared for a huge increase in ticket prices OR some sports being eliminated because they don't carry their weight.

3. I'm better than they are so I should be paid more.

4. With all of that money, they will buy stuff......AND get into trouble!
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I think sports being eliminated is likely. Athletes will be envious, rightly so, that Joe QB not only gets the hot girls, he's also rich now.

Harvard's endowment won't be a factor obviously.
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(06-21-2021, 03:07 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: I have no problem with parts of this.  I mean they cannot make money on their own items such as their autograph yet a dealer can?  Their name and likeness used in a vido game that makes hundreds of millions and they get nothing??

Now the down side is how do you or do you regulate fairly?

Yes title 9 may go away hell the NCAA may go away.

For the players though and I do not know all the details but if this is considered part of their work then their education needs to be considered income.

Again I do not want things to be like this but these are the challenges now presented.  I have little problem with the players getting some sorts of income off this so please do not this is a jealousy thing.  I do feel however this will change college sports as we know it.  We shall see.
Believe right now each " Student Athlete " FB players receives somewhere in the neighborhood of $3,500 to as much as $5,666 stipend per year at Tenncheat .
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Looks like the NFL will eventually have an official minor league.
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(06-21-2021, 06:18 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: Looks like the NFL will eventually have an official minor league.

We used to joke that when players left UK to go to the NBA they would be taking a pay cut.  Now it will all be legal soon.
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(06-21-2021, 06:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 06:18 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: Looks like the NFL will eventually have an official minor league.

We used to joke that when players left UK to go to the NBA they would be taking a pay cut.  Now it will all be legal soon.

I was home on leave at the Browns vs Colts game. We had good seats right on the field. Before the game Eric Dickerson was signing autographs and talking to the people in the stands. I told him I saw him play at SMU and went to several Odessa-Permian HS games. I asked him how he's handling the pay cut from SMU to the NFL. He laughed. Good dude took it in stride.
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Pandora's box has been opened. Between this judgement today and the transfer portal there will be many small college teams dropping football. It is unaffordable. Now if the NCAA was smart they could put a limit or say salary cap per team or maybe by player. But lets face it-players are already getting paid in the south.
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(06-21-2021, 06:58 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: Pandora's box has been opened. Between this judgement today and the transfer portal there will be many small college  teams dropping football. It is unaffordable. Now if the NCAA was smart they could put a limit or say salary cap per team or maybe by player. But lets face it-players are already getting paid in the south.


On come on BB.  The payroll system in college sports isn't geographic in nature.  Nike knows how to funnel money all over the country.
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(06-21-2021, 07:00 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(06-21-2021, 06:58 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: Pandora's box has been opened. Between this judgement today and the transfer portal there will be many small college  teams dropping football. It is unaffordable. Now if the NCAA was smart they could put a limit or say salary cap per team or maybe by player. But lets face it-players are already getting paid in the south.


On come on BB.  The payroll system in college sports isn't geographic in nature.  Nike knows how to funnel money all over the country.
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