MARICOPA COUNTY AZ OFFCIALS DELETE ELECTION DATABASE TO STOP BALLOT REVIEW

[K9Buck]

Democrats don't have a problem with rigged elections, as long as it's their side that's benefitting.

[ScarletHayes]

Ok.  I hear people claiming that their elections are rigged, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that crazy conspiracy theory.  Have you?

No, but I also don't know their processes and haven't really looked into it.  Most states have live video of the process, observers from each side , observers from the government elections department and very specific roles for volunteers to go along with strict rules for how ballots are handled and processed.

You don't know their processes?  NK?  Here's their process:  Vote for Something Kim... or die.  That's their process.  

As to the second part?  Covid blew all that to smithereens.  Once unsolicited mail-in ballots were announced the election was over.  Why?  Because one side has a notorious "ground game," while the other side has grandma baking brownies and licking envelopes.

[P1tchblack]

Ok.  I hear people claiming that their elections are rigged, but I haven't seen any evidence to support that crazy conspiracy theory.  Have you?

No, but I also don't know their processes and haven't really looked into it.  Most states have live video of the process, observers from each side , observers from the government elections department and very specific roles for volunteers to go along with strict rules for how ballots are handled and processed.

You don't know their processes?  NK?  Here's their process:  Vote for Something Kim... or die.  That's their process.  

As to the second part?  Covid blew all that to smithereens.  Once unsolicited mail-in ballots were announced the election was over.  Why?  Because one side has a notorious "ground game," while the other side has grandma baking brownies and licking envelopes.

You're making a ton of assumptions about what mail-in ballots means.  First, nine states have been using them for years without issue. Second, you assume that the existence of mail-in ballots means that people suddenly nwant to risk prison time to get a couple more votes for their side.

[ScarletHayes]

Keyword there is UNSOLICITED.  

The 9 states that use it (unsolicited?) are probably mostly blue states.   Would be my guess anyway.  

Traditional mail-in ballots are fine because they are requested via a legit reason (serving in the military, etc...) and have things like signature verification.  What we have now, and what is being pushed by congress going forward, is election Thunderdome, anything goes.  Hence state legislatures now beginning to reel in this nonsense.

[Soupcity Kid]

You, and about half the country, swallowed the lies hook, line and sinker.

So I will ask again do you believe Joe Biden got 81 million legal votes?

No. There's always a small amount of fraud.

Well give me a number then.  75 million?  Better yet give me a number of how much little fraud went on in Az? Maybe how much went on in Ga?  Oh lets throw in Wisconsin and ichigan.

AGain with your bank example of 10 thousand dollars there should not even be even a smidegen of fraud should there??

If there were 10,000 fraudulent votes total I'd be surprised.

Ok so you do believe Biden got 81 million votes.  Ok.  We obviously cannot have a reasonable discussion but it looks like your 10 k bank example would be off by 10k then.

[P1tchblack]

Keyword there is UNSOLICITED.  

The 9 states that use it (unsolicited?) are probably mostly blue states.   Would be my guess anyway.  

Traditional mail-in ballots are fine because they are requested via a legit reason (serving in the military, etc...) and have things like signature verification.  What we have now, and what is being pushed by congress going forward, is election Thunderdome, anything goes.  Hence state legislatures now beginning to reel in this nonsense.

I understand not liking the idea of unsolicited mail in ballots. But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

[K9Buck]

Lol.

[K9Buck]

But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

I agree.  There is ZERO evidence to support the claim that the North Korean elections are somehow rigged.  Anyone who says otherwise is a Qanon nutjob. 

[P1tchblack]

But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

I agree.  There is ZERO evidence to support the claim that the North Korean elections are somehow rigged.  Anyone who says otherwise is a Qanon nutjob. 

How do you believe the mail-in ballot fraud would be accomplished?

[K9Buck]

But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

I agree.  There is ZERO evidence to support the claim that the North Korean elections are somehow rigged.  Anyone who says otherwise is a Qanon nutjob. 

How do you believe the mail-in ballot fraud would be accomplished?

Lots of ways, potentially.  Postal workers can easily take them, complete them, and turn them in.

[K9Buck]

Were signatures verified? I understand the ballot rejection rate for mismatching signatures dropped significantly in 20'. Why is that?

[ScarletHayes]

Let's use another analogy.  Say you live in a known very safe area.  There's very little evidence of break-ins and theft.  Would you consider it wise to leave your doors unlocked at night?  Would you consider it wise if everyone left their doors unlocked?  

Unsolicited mail-in ballots disenfranchise actual, legitimate voters.  Enough is enough.  

Hell I'm still surprised we allow voting beyond election day.  It's insane to me.  Same day registration considered in some places to boot.  Boy, there's some integrity.   

Clean up voter rolls on the regular.  Demand voter ID.  Demand signature matching.  etc...  This shouldn't be difficult.

[P1tchblack]

But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

I agree.  There is ZERO evidence to support the claim that the North Korean elections are somehow rigged.  Anyone who says otherwise is a Qanon nutjob. 

How do you believe the mail-in ballot fraud would be accomplished?

Lots of ways, potentially.  Postal workers can easily take them, complete them, and turn them in.

But, since the ballot is tied to the person, if the actual person went and voted at their location, they would have two ballots cast and be caught.  So, we should expect states to find a TON of people being accused of voting twice, right?

[K9Buck]

But there is no evidence, and never has been, that they result in any significant voter fraud.

I agree.  There is ZERO evidence to support the claim that the North Korean elections are somehow rigged.  Anyone who says otherwise is a Qanon nutjob. 

How do you believe the mail-in ballot fraud would be accomplished?

Lots of ways, potentially.  Postal workers can easily take them, complete them, and turn them in.

But, since the ballot is tied to the person, if the actual person went and voted at their location, they would have two ballots cast and be caught.  So, we should expect states to find a TON of people being accused of voting twice, right?

Presumably, but are they checking on those things in the states in question?

[ScarletHayes]

We've covered this ad nauseum.  2020 election fraud was multi faceted.  The math never added up.  The ultimate sign to me was all the swing states with a Trump lead and then they ALL turned on a dime and went to Biden.  i.e. time was running out.  They were panicked.  They didn't have time to make it look more realistic, so they had to flip each and every one of them to be on the safe side.  Yet the GOP somehow did great down ballot.   

I can still see Biden's sh1t eating grin around midnight when he was down well over a half million votes in Pa.  He KNEW the fix was in.  Think about that for a second.  Once county and the NET flip in votes topped 600k in Biden's favor!  Lol.  So say there were still a million ballots to count after midnight.  Biden got at least 8 out of 10 to go for him.  Smell test not passed.