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Biden Rebuild America Plan now focus on infrastructure
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(04-08-2021, 09:13 AM)Beastdog Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 08:50 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I've mentioned this before, but I have a nephew pretty high up in the IT world.  He travels all over the place, etc...   Anyway, he told me to NOT by the hype about foreigners and STEM.  He says his company hires those people as over-glorified slaves, and he's often busy doing/fixing their work.  He says it's a joke.  Now of course this is one guy's experience in one company, but still...  he sees these guys come through and it pizzez him off that American kids, saddled with student loan debt, are routinely overlooked for these guys.
Not my experience at all. In my field (automotive software) we simply cannot find enough American workers qualified for the jobs. And over the past 5 years, I have had 25+ positions to fill, so not a small sample size. So we pay foreign workers on H1B Visas competitive salaries (not less than American workers, that's how the free market works) and take on the additional costs associated with sponsoring someone's green card application. It's done out of necessity, not to screw over Americans. My son, with a computer science degree with MEDIOCRE grades, had an easy time finding a high paying job in this field.

You want this problem to go away? Tell your nieces and nephews to stop pursuing WORTHLESS degrees in public policy, African Art, or whatever, garbage majors are out there, and pursue degrees with value. Yeah, they're really HARD. Big deal, buck up and get trained with skills in demand or STFU with your whining.

Now sending jobs from the US to "best cost" countries? That's another topic altogether.
That could be your company or industry, but trust me many do, do those things

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(04-08-2021, 09:32 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: I think this bill is where Pubs could make some headway.

Support every dollar being spent on actual roads and bridges, maybe even add 10%. Get all the senators on board for it. But say we are not signing off on pet projects for either side or things not related to TRUE infrastructure.

Take control of the talk about the bill and force the Dems to show all the pork they want to add. Be the party of Yes , as it relates to actual infrastructure. Then take as much credit as you can for passing it but preventing govt waste at the same time.
Won't work because the dems and the media will still trash it as racist and sexist.

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(04-08-2021, 09:23 AM)Beastdog Wrote:
(04-08-2021, 09:16 AM)zigbee Wrote: Son who no longer posts here works for Oxford, company which matches up companies like Beast works for and brings in these qualified workers/professionals.   They have to use foreign nationals to fill many jobs.
So he's a recruiter? We try to avoid using them, they're expensive lol.
No.  Does not recruit.  He sells the service of his companies professionals to other companies
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(04-05-2021, 04:53 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 12:06 PM)osurox Wrote:
(04-02-2021, 04:30 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(04-02-2021, 04:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(04-02-2021, 04:18 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: ODOT ran off a childhood friend who is an Engineering grad from tOSU. He was also run off by the Army Corp of Engineers. Same reason. He's a white male. It all worked out for him as he sold joist to all the construction sites in GA during the big building boom. He lives in a $5mn USD house these days. As he always said "They need me more than I need them". He was correct then and still is today.

There is a valid reason why there are so many open positions in STEM jobs.

And they would rather bring in people from India than hire white males.

Yup. 

Chinese and Western students were asked what they would like to be if they attend college.

Chinese Students: Taikonaut (Astronaut)
Western Students: Youtuber

I can't say this is true for other engineering disciplines, but Civil Engineering is dominated by white males. I have a hard time believing anyone was "run off" due to being a white male, especially at ODOT. More likely, there were other issues at play.

He has a master's degree in Civil Engineering. He worked for ODOT and the Army Corp of Engineers. They made it clear he was never going to move up. He also saw the 'sh!t show' how ODOT is run. He's not the 'yes man' they wanted. He's very outspoken and that does not bode well for anybody in a government job.

Look at Ohio's roads for proof. I have seen better conditioned roads in warzones. 

To be fair the roads in Ohio might have improved since I last was there in 2016. Might.

So he was told he wouldn't move up...that is not getting run off.  Most of the people at ODOT are white males, and from my experiemce it is very diffocult to get fired. Sounds like your friend left on his own accord. Not trying to argue or anything, so sorry if I came off that way.

Problem with Ohio's roads are funding, climate (freeze thaw cycle), and truck traffic mostly. Corruption also occurs, but to a lessor degree than many might estimate (moreso at municipality level than state).
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(04-08-2021, 04:59 PM)osurox Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 04:53 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(04-05-2021, 12:06 PM)osurox Wrote:
(04-02-2021, 04:30 PM)lrrps21 Wrote:
(04-02-2021, 04:20 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: And they would rather bring in people from India than hire white males.

Yup. 

Chinese and Western students were asked what they would like to be if they attend college.

Chinese Students: Taikonaut (Astronaut)
Western Students: Youtuber

I can't say this is true for other engineering disciplines, but Civil Engineering is dominated by white males. I have a hard time believing anyone was "run off" due to being a white male, especially at ODOT. More likely, there were other issues at play.

He has a master's degree in Civil Engineering. He worked for ODOT and the Army Corp of Engineers. They made it clear he was never going to move up. He also saw the 'sh!t show' how ODOT is run. He's not the 'yes man' they wanted. He's very outspoken and that does not bode well for anybody in a government job.

Look at Ohio's roads for proof. I have seen better conditioned roads in warzones. 

To be fair the roads in Ohio might have improved since I last was there in 2016. Might.

So he was told he wouldn't move up...that is not getting run off.  Most of the people at ODOT are white males, and from my experiemce it is very diffocult to get fired. Sounds like your friend left on his own accord. Not trying to argue or anything, so sorry if I came off that way.

Problem with Ohio's roads are funding, climate (freeze thaw cycle), and truck traffic mostly. Corruption also occurs, but to a lessor degree than many might estimate (moreso at municipality level than state).

No worries. I didn't see you as arguing. He left because he knew he had no avenue to advance. His boss often tangled with him over work. His boss does not have an Engineering degree. He's a manager type that thinks he's an Engineer. My friend is very intelligent and he understood his talent would be lost or wasted, so he left. He would have stayed if he knew he could advance. In the end he made his coin, so it worked out for him and for ODOT.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., is resisting growing pressure from his fellow Democrats to go it alone on President Biden's proposed $2.3 trillion tax and spending plan, even as infrastructure negotiations between the White House and a coalition of Republicans ran into a wall this week.


Asked Tuesday whether he supported using budget reconciliation to pass the package, known as the American Jobs Plan, Manchin said: "Iâ€m not even close to the thought process on that. Weâ€re just trying to find an infrastructure bill we can all agree on."

Manchin's comments come amid signs the bipartisan talks are coming to an end after months of back and forth, with the two sides still deeply divided over the size and scope of a package to rebuild the nation's crumbling roads and bridges. Although Biden is expected to meet on Tuesday with Sen. Shelley Moore Capito, the West Virginia Republican spearheading the negotiations, she told reporters that she does not have plans to produce a new counteroffer after Biden rejected a proposal to increase a $928 billion plan by $50 billion.


The president has said that he wants at least $1 trillion in new spending.

"We made a good robust effort. The biggest infrastructure package ever with pay-fors that we delineated," Capito said Monday. "And he said, ‘Thatâ€s not enough.†So, I accept that. I mean I have to. Heâ€s the president."

Capito added: "Weâ€re going to keep talking. But Iâ€m not coming back with anything in the next 24 hours."

Biden's ongoing talks with Republicans are just one of "several paths" for an infrastructure package, White House press secretary Jen Psaki said Monday. Another option, Psaki said, is working with a group of bipartisan lawmakers who have been quietly drafting a backup proposal. It's unclear what pricetag the group would offer.


Separately, the chairman of the House Transportation and Infrastructure Committee on Friday unveiled a bill that would invest $547 billion over five years in roads and bridges, as well as rail and other public transport. Rep. Peter DeFazio, D-Ore., scheduled a markup of the bill for Wednesday. Biden spoke to DeFazio on Friday to "offer his support" for the markup, the process through which bills make their way through committees, Psaki said.



The White House has also not ruled out unilateral action by congressional Democrats to pass Biden's original $2.3 trillion tax and spending plan, a sweeping measure that makes massive investments in traditional infrastructure like roads, bridges and transit systems, but also includes billions to combat climate change and bolster care for elderly and disabled Americans.

With narrow majorities in the House and Senate, Democrats have the option to bypass Republicans and approve the measure on a party-line basis using a procedural tool known as budget reconciliation – a path that some progressives are pressuring Biden to take.

Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., has indicated that he wants to pass an infrastructure bill by July, whether or not support for the measure is bipartisan.



"The bottom line is very simple, that it has always been our plan regardless of the vehicle to work on an infrastructure bill in July," he said last week. "And thatâ€s our plan, to move forward in July."
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They said they had Memorial Day as the deadline, now it's July.

And they have a bunch of other "priorities". By fall, the AOCs of the world will be whining loudly.
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They have a much broader definition of infrastructure than I do.

No longer GroupThink 'woke'.  but it was fun while it lasted.
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https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...t-focus-to

Tjhis is another example of how tough it is to get legislation passed if you are not crafty about it. Biden will have shrill voices in his own party fairly soon.
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(06-08-2021, 08:03 PM)cincydawg Wrote: https://thehill.com/homenews/administrat...t-focus-to

Tjhis is another example of how tough it is to get legislation passed if you are not crafty about it. Biden will have shrill voices in his own party fairly soon.
The only thing we can guarantee is that politicians will get rich, so will their cronies, our rights will get eroded, and the taxpayers fund all of it.

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A good bit of spending is "borrowed" money, not tax monies.

In a sense, it's not really borrowed realistically.
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President Biden on Thursday declared that he and a bipartisan group of senators had reached a deal for a $1.2 trillion infrastructure package, a breakthrough agreement that comes after weeks of arduous negotiations.

The agreement includes more than $500 billion in new spending that will be invested in "core" infrastructure projects such as roads, broadband internet and electric utilities over the next eight years.

"We have a deal," Biden said outside the White House, standing next to a group of Republicans and Democrats who helped to craft the framework. "I think itâ€s really important weâ€ve all agreed that none of us got all that we wanted."


Still, the compromise is just the beginning of what's likely to become a long and difficult path to passage: Biden pledged to not sign any legislation unless it comes in tandem with a multitrillion-dollar reconciliation package that focuses on Democratic priorities such as child and elder care, climate change and health care.

It's unclear whether Democrats will be able to secure the support of all 50 members needed to pass the legislation in the Senate with their slimmest-possible majority.

Here's a breakdown on how the money in the bipartisan bill would be allocated:

Transportation: $312 billion
Roads, bridges, major projects: $109 billion
Safety: $11 billion
Public transit: $49 billion
Passenger and freight rail: $66 billion
Electric vehicles: $7.5 billion
Electric buses/transit: $7.5 billion
Reconnecting communities: $1 billion
Airports: $25 billion
Ports and waterways: $16 billion
Infrastructure financing: $20 billion
Other infrastructure: $266 billion
Water: $55 billion
Broadband: $65 billion
Environmental remediation: $21 billion
Power, including grid authority: $73 billion
Western water storage: $5 billion
Resilience: $47 billion
"Democracy requires compromise," a White House fact sheet said. "The historic Bipartisan Infrastructure Framework will make life better for millions of Americans, create a generation of good-paying union jobs and economic growth, and position the United States to win the 21st century, including on many of the key technologies needed to combat the climate crisis."


How would they pay for it?
One of the biggest sticking points was how to pay for the measure. The White House said in a fact sheet that it would be funded with unused coronavirus relief funds, unused unemployment insurance and sales from the strategic petroleum reserve, among other measures.

Here are all of the revenue sources listed by the White House:

Reduce the IRS tax gap
Unemployment insurance program integrity
Redirect unused unemployment insurance relief funds
Repurpose unused relief funds from 2020 emergency relief legislation
State and local investment in broadband infrastructure
Allow states to sell or purchase unused toll credits for infrastructure
Extend expiring customs user fees
Reinstate Superfund fees for chemicals
5G spectrum auction proceeds
Extend mandatory sequester
Strategic petroleum reserve sale
Public-private partnerships, private activity bonds, direct pay bonds and asset recycling for infrastructure investment
Macroeconomic impact of infrastructure investment
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