2021 REDS thread

[ScarletHayes]

Progress definitely made.  Hope we can find room to trim payroll while somehow holding onto Castellanos and picking up a number 1 for the bull pen

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Progress definitely made.  Hope we can find room to trim payroll while somehow holding onto Castellanos and picking up a number 1 for the bull pen

the positives sure out weigh the negatives.

Most wins since 2013
Votto again MVP candidate with 36 HR and 98 RBIs
Mahle
Gutierrez
Santillan
SanMartin
Givens
INDIA
Stephenson
Winker(albeit hurt)
Miley
Warren
Farmer with a HUGE year at SS
Castellanos over 300 BA and 100 RBIs

Negatives:
Aquino
Senzel hurt again
Suarez hitting under 200
Akiyama is dud
Gray is meh....average at best
Garrett
Lorenzen
Moustakas hurt as always

Castillo not much till after All Star Break
AND HUGE NEGATIVE?   Best pitcher on staff went down in June: Antone

Add the blunders by front office in some of the moves like keeping Bedrosian, Hoffman, Cabrera, trade of Iglesias and NOTHING in return, and he was 7-5 with 2.5 ERA and 34 saves for Angels...and Reds just gave him away.https://www.mlb.com/player/raisel-iglesias-628452

[ScarletHayes]

Had on wlw for a minute and the twerp Sterling said 36 HRs and 99 RBI.  Obviously very close, I just wonder which set is right.

edit: Now I see you said 36. I thought I saw 38. Never mind. Not gonna quibble over 1 RBI

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Had on wlw for a minute and the twerp Sterling said 36 HRs and 99 RBI.  Obviously very close, I just wonder which set is right.

edit:  Now I see you said 36.  I thought I saw 38.  Never mind.  Not gonna quibble over 1 RBI

That RBI total is probably right by Sterling.   I was going from memory which can be faulty as we know from my postings on here.

[davebucknut]

I'll get my obligatory 75 wins statement in before the season starts.

Enjoy the 2021 season!

Reds will stuggle to get 60 wins this year.

I think we'll finish 3rd in the division, but you never know if we'll get some surprise contributions somewhere or is a guy like lorenzen becomes a stud.

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India could be a huge boost if he plays well, because offensively we haven't had great success with our middle infield in a few years and this duo could be great, I'm only worried about Suarez defensively, but as long as he makes all of the regular plays, we should be all right

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Reds win today for win number 83 and 4 over 500.   Disappointing considering where they were start of September.   They actually won more than I thought they would back in March to be honest.  Interesting comments back in March.  Davebucknut was pretty accurate.

BOX

Thank you Zig, I've got a good eye for sports in general and I knew from day 1 that they had some empty places on the roster and not a lot of hope they would be filled.

Once we got swept by the brewers coming out of the all star break I knew the team was doomed. And we did finish 3rd and India did end up becoming a heck of a threat.

Shame lorenzen never really got going and once he did fully come back the team was on its heels. I'm pleasantly surprised by votto and I only wished he showed this hunger earlier in his career, because we had some oretty good teams at one time and he just refused to lead.

I hope that my other prediction is wrong in castellanos exercising his contract out but I bet he does go back on the open market and tries to go to a winner and maximize his contract, which no doubt his value increases and we won't be able to afford him, which leads me back to my thoughts back in June that if we aren't going to make some moves before or at the all star break to improve the team, we need to trade him, because now all they'll get is a few compensatory picks in the draft. Where as if we'd made the trade back then we could've gotten great value for him.

I don't have a lot of faith in the front office, especially after giving bell an extension.

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I'll get my obligatory 75 wins statement in before the season starts.

Enjoy the 2021 season!

Reds will stuggle to get 60 wins this year.

I think we'll finish 3rd in the division, but you never know if we'll get some surprise contributions somewhere or is a guy like lorenzen becomes a stud.

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India could be a huge boost if he plays well, because offensively we haven't had great success with our middle infield in a few years and this duo could be great, I'm only worried about Suarez defensively, but as long as he makes all of the regular plays, we should be all right

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Reds win today for win number 83 and 4 over 500.   Disappointing considering where they were start of September.   They actually won more than I thought they would back in March to be honest.  Interesting comments back in March.  Davebucknut was pretty accurate.

BOX

Thank you Zig, I've got a good eye for sports in general and I knew from day 1 that they had some empty places on the roster and not a lot of hope they would be filled.

Once we got swept by the brewers coming out of the all star break I knew the team was doomed. And we did finish 3rd and India did end up becoming a heck of a threat.

Shame lorenzen never really got going and once he did fully come back the team was on its heels. I'm pleasantly surprised by votto and I only wished he showed this hunger earlier in his career, because we had some oretty good teams at one time and he just refused to lead.

I hope that my other prediction is wrong in castellanos exercising his contract out but I bet he does go back on the open market and tries to go to a winner and maximize his contract, which no doubt his value increases and we won't be able to afford him, which leads me back to my thoughts back in June that if we aren't going to make some moves before or at the all star break to improve the team, we need to trade him, because now all they'll get is a few compensatory picks in the draft. Where as if we'd made the trade back then we could've gotten great value for him.

I don't have a lot of faith in the front office, especially after giving bell an extension.

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Yeah, I give you credit.   Accurate no doubt.

Castellanos is gone.   Guarantee that.   Reds were in the hunt for a division at that time so trading Castellanos was not going to happen and chances are they only get minor league player/prospects since Nick was going to use his option to get OUT of that contract after the season.   Compensation is fine for this and the money saved can be used to help fill some gaps.

I hate the front office for the Reds.  Bell is ok and I really doubt they could find much better replacement.  The real issue is Krall.  He's a freaking idiot.

[davebucknut]

I'll get my obligatory 75 wins statement in before the season starts.

Enjoy the 2021 season!

Reds will stuggle to get 60 wins this year.

I think we'll finish 3rd in the division, but you never know if we'll get some surprise contributions somewhere or is a guy like lorenzen becomes a stud.

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India could be a huge boost if he plays well, because offensively we haven't had great success with our middle infield in a few years and this duo could be great, I'm only worried about Suarez defensively, but as long as he makes all of the regular plays, we should be all right

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Reds win today for win number 83 and 4 over 500.   Disappointing considering where they were start of September.   They actually won more than I thought they would back in March to be honest.  Interesting comments back in March.  Davebucknut was pretty accurate.

BOX

Thank you Zig, I've got a good eye for sports in general and I knew from day 1 that they had some empty places on the roster and not a lot of hope they would be filled.

Once we got swept by the brewers coming out of the all star break I knew the team was doomed. And we did finish 3rd and India did end up becoming a heck of a threat.

Shame lorenzen never really got going and once he did fully come back the team was on its heels. I'm pleasantly surprised by votto and I only wished he showed this hunger earlier in his career, because we had some oretty good teams at one time and he just refused to lead.

I hope that my other prediction is wrong in castellanos exercising his contract out but I bet he does go back on the open market and tries to go to a winner and maximize his contract, which no doubt his value increases and we won't be able to afford him, which leads me back to my thoughts back in June that if we aren't going to make some moves before or at the all star break to improve the team, we need to trade him, because now all they'll get is a few compensatory picks in the draft. Where as if we'd made the trade back then we could've gotten great value for him.

I don't have a lot of faith in the front office, especially after giving bell an extension.

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Yeah, I give you credit.   Accurate no doubt.

Castellanos is gone.   Guarantee that.   Reds were in the hunt for a division at that time so trading Castellanos was not going to happen and chances are they only get minor league player/prospects since Nick was going to use his option to get OUT of that contract after the season.   Compensation is fine for this and the money saved can be used to help fill some gaps.

I hate the front office for the Reds.  Bell is ok and I really doubt they could find much better replacement.  The real issue is Krall.  He's a freaking idiot.

I would've traded him to a team in need of a corner outfielder and a bat and gotten a rock solid set up man or closer and a few minor league prospects in June.

Division title or not, because this team knew that castellanos was gone unless they made a deep playoff run, which was unlikely without a closer, which we never had a closer or a solid set up man all year.

My brother is of the same opinion as you and I will always maintain our 2021 season and beyond would've been better making that trade

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I'll get my obligatory 75 wins statement in before the season starts.

Enjoy the 2021 season!

Reds will stuggle to get 60 wins this year.

I think we'll finish 3rd in the division, but you never know if we'll get some surprise contributions somewhere or is a guy like lorenzen becomes a stud.

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India could be a huge boost if he plays well, because offensively we haven't had great success with our middle infield in a few years and this duo could be great, I'm only worried about Suarez defensively, but as long as he makes all of the regular plays, we should be all right

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Reds win today for win number 83 and 4 over 500.   Disappointing considering where they were start of September.   They actually won more than I thought they would back in March to be honest.  Interesting comments back in March.  Davebucknut was pretty accurate.

BOX

Thank you Zig, I've got a good eye for sports in general and I knew from day 1 that they had some empty places on the roster and not a lot of hope they would be filled.

Once we got swept by the brewers coming out of the all star break I knew the team was doomed. And we did finish 3rd and India did end up becoming a heck of a threat.

Shame lorenzen never really got going and once he did fully come back the team was on its heels. I'm pleasantly surprised by votto and I only wished he showed this hunger earlier in his career, because we had some oretty good teams at one time and he just refused to lead.

I hope that my other prediction is wrong in castellanos exercising his contract out but I bet he does go back on the open market and tries to go to a winner and maximize his contract, which no doubt his value increases and we won't be able to afford him, which leads me back to my thoughts back in June that if we aren't going to make some moves before or at the all star break to improve the team, we need to trade him, because now all they'll get is a few compensatory picks in the draft. Where as if we'd made the trade back then we could've gotten great value for him.

I don't have a lot of faith in the front office, especially after giving bell an extension.

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Yeah, I give you credit.   Accurate no doubt.

Castellanos is gone.   Guarantee that.   Reds were in the hunt for a division at that time so trading Castellanos was not going to happen and chances are they only get minor league player/prospects since Nick was going to use his option to get OUT of that contract after the season.   Compensation is fine for this and the money saved can be used to help fill some gaps.

I hate the front office for the Reds.  Bell is ok and I really doubt they could find much better replacement.  The real issue is Krall.  He's a freaking idiot.

I would've traded him to a team in need of a corner outfielder and a bat and gotten a rock solid set up man or closer and a few minor league prospects in June.

Division title or not, because this team knew that castellanos was gone unless they made a deep playoff run, which was unlikely without a closer, which we never had a closer or a solid set up man all year.

My brother is of the same opinion as you and I will always maintain our 2021 season and beyond would've been better making that trade

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You'd not gotten that at all: LOOK at what the DODGERS GOT and gave up.  It's not even close to what you wish for ONE player:

Washington acquired a pair of rookies, right-hander Josiah Gray and catcher Keibert Ruiz, and two minor leaguers, righty Gerardo Carrillo and outfielder Donovan Casey.  FROM DODGERS FOR:

The Dodgers acquired three-time Cy Young Award winner Max Scherzer and All-Star shortstop Trea Turner, finalizing the deal for the dynamic duo from the Washington Nationals shortly before Fridayâ€s cutoff for making swaps.

[davebucknut]

I still think they would've gotten a front line closer straight up for castellanos or a set up man and a minor leaguer.

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