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Georgia moving ahead now with legislative law to make presidential elections fair
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Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp signed a sweeping, controversial election reform bill into law on Thursday, after it was approved by the Republican-controlled legislature.

The legislation would change the rules and processes for requesting an absentee ballot, including requiring voters to present valid forms of photo identification. It would also limit drop boxes and the early voting period for runoffs.

The state would also be allowed to take over county elections or remove local elections officials if there was a determined need to intervene.

Further, it would prevent food and beverages from being provided by outside groups to voters waiting in line to cast their ballots.



The bill passed along party lines in both chambers of the state legislature.

Democratic Rep. Rhonda Burnough charged that the legislation was triggered by Republican-circulated lies regarding last Novemberâ€s election cycle, as reported by The Associated Press.

"Georgians turned out in record-breaking numbers because they could access the ballot," Burnough said. "Lies upon lies were told about our elections in response, and now this bill is before us built on those same lies."

Georgia was one of the key states that the Trump campaign focused on as it honed in on unfounded claims of voter fraud during and after the 2020 presidential election. Biden narrowly won Georgia by roughly 12,000 votes.



During his first press conference on Thursday, Biden blasted what appear to be attempts to restrict voting access as "un-American" not just in Georgia, but in several states across the U.S.

"What Iâ€m worried about is how un-American this whole initiative is. Itâ€s sick," Biden said. "This makes Jim Crow look like Jim Eagle. I mean, this is gigantic what theyâ€re trying to do and it cannot be sustained."

Biden answered in the affirmative when asked if there was more he could do than simply pass voting rights legislation to stop these initiatives, though he declined to go into detail.

Biden was the first Democratic presidential candidate to win Georgia since 1992. Democrats also won both Senate runoff elections that took place at the beginning of this year, which were crucial victories, since they gave the party a majority in the chamber with Vice President Kamala Harris as the tie-breaking vote.
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About time

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"Democratic Rep. Rhonda Burnough charged that the legislation was triggered by Republican-circulated lies regarding last Novemberâ€s election cycle, as reported by The Associated Press."

Most likely, yes, but ID should be required to vote.
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Other republican controlled states should begin to do the same and let the supreme court rule when challenged.
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(03-26-2021, 05:56 AM)zigbee Wrote: Other republican controlled states should begin to do the same and let the supreme court rule when challenged.
This might work in AZ (3rdgen can let us know the power structure there in state government). But in PA, MI, and WI socialist governors will veto these bills. The 2022 elections in these states will be CRITICAL!
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(03-26-2021, 06:22 AM)Beastdog Wrote:
(03-26-2021, 05:56 AM)zigbee Wrote: Other republican controlled states should begin to do the same and let the supreme court rule when challenged.
This might work in AZ (3rdgen can let us know the power structure there in state government). But in PA, MI, and WI socialist governors will veto these bills. The 2022 elections in these states will be CRITICAL!

Can the vetos be over ridden though?
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(03-26-2021, 06:39 AM)dunefan Wrote:
(03-26-2021, 06:22 AM)Beastdog Wrote:
(03-26-2021, 05:56 AM)zigbee Wrote: Other republican controlled states should begin to do the same and let the supreme court rule when challenged.
This might work in AZ (3rdgen can let us know the power structure there in state government). But in PA, MI, and WI socialist governors will veto these bills. The 2022 elections in these states will be CRITICAL!

Can the vetos be over ridden though?
I don't think Reps have enough seats to do this in any of these states. In Michigan, we can sign a petition that allows the legislature to override the veto with a simple majority.

I need to check with our reps and see if we are planning to introduce legislation like the GA law.
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I am not sure where securing the vote ends and suppressing the vote starts, but stupid sh!t like not allowing to provide refreshments to a voting line is probably neither, just stupid and spiteful. I get many here are pro suppression because you are in the minority right now.

One person that will never need a refreshment in line is me. I am in the burbs and have always voted in person, never waiting more than 10 minutes. That is not the case in other areas I have seen in pictures and describing hour plus waits.

Now Zigâ€s thread title said it was about making elections fair but I donâ€t think that is true or equal, or else reducing waits in all voting districts would be part of it. I could see no food/drink if everyone had equal access.

I am pro registration, voter ID, and mail in with signature checks and witness. Those against mail in seem very duplicitous as they had no problem when it was used by the traveling business class that tended to vote more their way.

At what point does this bill become more about being sore losers and less about fairness. Not allowing anyone to pass out water in a line is on the sore loser side.
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Mail-in/traditional absentee is fine because the voter requested the ballot themselves and, of course, there was a verification process.  What is going on now in many cases is unsolicited ballots being mailed out all over kingdom come, with *ZERO* verification.  You know, the stuff we're against which makes us racist?  

I have to say, whenever I hear the "voter suppression" mantra in the media I just want to break out the violins.  Gimmie a ####ing break.  Over 2 centuries of in-person voting and people had no idea their vote was being "suppressed."  So ridiculous.
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Like all of their other mantras and narratives, "voter suppression" is a ploy and device to sway the idiotic public into thinking that making voters prove their identity is racist or unfair.  If you can't make it the polls with a legitimate picture ID, the exception being military personnel out of the country, then you should probably not be voting.  End of story.  Voting should be for responsible people who are at least willing to take the time to go to the polls in person.  Unfortunately the Democrats will sooner or later eliminate state voting provisions with a sweeping federal law that overrides all reasonable voting safeguards.
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(03-26-2021, 08:33 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Mail-in/traditional absentee is fine because the voter requested the ballot themselves and, of course, there was a verification process.  What is going on now in many cases is unsolicited ballots being mailed out all over kingdom come, with *ZERO* verification.  You know, the stuff we're against which makes us racist?  

I have to say, whenever I hear the "voter suppression" mantra in the media I just want to break out the violins.  Gimmie a ####ing break.  Over 2 centuries of in-person voting and people had no idea their vote was being "suppressed."  So ridiculous.

Both parties have their cause celebre.  For Dems, it's over reacting every time a crazy person shoots up a business/school with a specific weapon.  For Republicans, (thanks to Trump and the internet), it's over reacting to unproven claims of voter fraud and a stolen election.
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(03-26-2021, 08:20 AM)Erhino Wrote: I am not sure where securing the vote ends and suppressing the vote starts, but stupid sh!t like not allowing to provide refreshments to a voting line is probably neither, just stupid and spiteful. I get many here are pro suppression because you are in the minority right now.

One person that will never need a refreshment in line is me. I am in the burbs and have always voted in person, never waiting more than 10 minutes. That is not the case in other areas I have seen in pictures and describing hour plus waits.

Now Zigâ€s thread title said it was about making elections fair but I donâ€t think that is true or equal, or else reducing waits in all voting districts would be part of it. I could see no food/drink if everyone had equal access.

I am pro registration voter ID, and mail in with signature checks and witness. Those against mail in seem very duplicitous as they had no problem when it was used by the traveling business class that tended to vote more their way.

At what point does this bill become more about being sore losers and less about fairness. Not allowing anyone to pass out water in a line is on the sore loser side.
Come on Erhino, you're better than this. You're sucking up the dumbass media's main talking point, which is such a tiny, miniscule part of the bill, and making it the main point. If you are truly "pro registration voter ID, and mail in with signature checks and witness," you are for the heart of this bill and should be ecstatic with its passage. Focusing on anything else is just being a contrarian, for the heck of it.
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