It seems that the right is rioting in D.C.

[P1tchblack]

I agree, thats why I'm not one of them.

I expect my side to be better.  We dont let our feelings rule our actions.  We follow the rule of law, and use our brains to make decisions.

My feelings toward rioters on the left or the right dont change.  They should be gassed, use water cannons, then if non lethal isnt working, open fire on the worst of them.  Thats part of what makes me a conservative.  I treat rioters of both ilks the same.  Otherwise its just my side vs. your side and I'm no better than them.

I hold myself, and my political party, to a higher standard.

It has become way too common that, when "your" party's poor behavior is pointed out, the response is "well, they did it too".

[Hightop77]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

What rule of law?  When only one side follows it, it is meaningless.

[3rdgensooner]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

If the tables were turned and it was antifa/BLM doing the rioting, the narrative would be entirely different and the leftists, who have openly advocated for political violence, would be supporting the "peaceful protesters" and condemning Trump.

No question about that. Right now if it was burn loot murder or the privileged white retards of antifail they'd still be in the Capitol and the Dem Congressmen would be delivering them food and asking them what they want. The press would be waxing eloquent about how peaceful it all was even if the Capitol burned to the ground. Riots would be breaking out all over the country if the person shot was a black criminal instead of a white veteran small business owner. 
But that's just pointing out the obvious hypocrisy of the left. I'm not going to support these people the way the left supports even worse actors. The people that are involved in this are unhinged radicals and should be prosecuted. We won't be bailing them out like Harris and Biden's people bailed out rioters.
Yeah I said Congressmen. Oooooohhhh. Will the twits of twitter or Nancy Pelosi cancel me now?

[Conanthelibrarian]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

What rule of law?  When only one side follows it, it is meaningless.

I understand your point, but I have not seen enough evidence to believe the election was rigged and stolen.  I believe he lost by 100k votes in a few keys battle states, much like he won by 100k votes in those same key states last time.  So he lost a very close election.  It sucks, but it happens.

So we differ on our view of the "facts", and thus have arrived at different conclusions.  Maybe Im a RINO, or a cuck, or soft.  Maybe Im wrong and you are right about the election.  But I have to go with what Ive seen and heard and thats not enough for me to believe as you do.  If new evidence comes to light, hopefully I will be able to see it and modify my view of things.

[Hightop77]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

What rule of law?  When only one side follows it, it is meaningless.

I understand your point, but I have not seen enough evidence to believe the election was rigged and stolen.  I believe he lost by 100k votes in a few keys battle states, much like he won by 100k votes in those same key states last time.  So he lost a very close election.  It sucks, but it happens.

So we differ on our view of the "facts", and thus have arrived at different conclusions. 

Forget the election.  You were talking about rule of law.  Are you still not convinced that after 4 years of Democrats illegally trying to remove Trump from office using the FBI and DOJ with no legal consequences that we have rule of law?  How about the fact that people like Hillary Clinton can violate every federal national security law in the book with no charges?  How about the fact that BLM/antifa are given full permission to loot and destroy dozens of US cities with no consequences?  How about the fact that people trying to defend themselves or their property from rioters and looters like Kyle Rittenhouse and the McCloskey's were charged while the looters were not?

[ScarletHayes]

I agree, thats why I'm not one of them.

I expect my side to be better.  We dont let our feelings rule our actions.  We follow the rule of law, and use our brains to make decisions.

My feelings toward rioters on the left or the right dont change.  They should be gassed, use water cannons, then if non lethal isnt working, open fire on the worst of them.  Thats part of what makes me a conservative.  I treat rioters of both ilks the same.  Otherwise its just my side vs. your side and I'm no better than them.

I hold myself, and my political party, to a higher standard.

It has become way too common that, when "your" party's poor behavior is pointed out, the response is "well, they did it too".

So now we're going to compare the situations as if they're even on the scoreboard.  Lol.  Statues toppled and defaced, cites taken over, looted, burned to the ground over the course of MONTHS is now comparable to one afternoon of insanity?  Alright.  I mean this is almost as nauseating as getting lectured to by Chuck Schumer yesterday.

I don't think any serious person on the right believes what was done yesterday was acceptable in any way, shape or form.  

Whatever the case, George Soros finally got his payout yesterday.  He's been pushing for this for ages now.  Finally the right/middle America  explodes in frustration and responds.  He's been poking the bear for a while now.  It took a stolen election, but he finally made it happen.  Chaos looms.  The Dems go for the gold these next two years, with virtually no margin in either chamber, and this nation will burn.

[dkeener67]

The idea of Trump stating that he believes the election was stolen is somehow encouraging violence is beyond absurd.  He's been saying this since Nov 3rd and, last I checked, I'm not storming the Capitol and breaking into offices.   Trying to hang this around Trump's neck is simply lazy.  Meat heads breaking stuff doesn't change what happened in November.  

Lastly, I'd like to know the details of the shooting of that girl.  Why did a cop fire into that crowd?  Were they being aggressive?  I don't know; I didn't see any of it.  Pitch, what's your early take here?

He's gone silent. Shooting a White military vet female doesn't fit his narrative apparently

[Blinky]

Are we actually comparing protesting the govt at a govt building because of what the govt is doing, to burning down mom and pop shops over an armed rapist that was shot (and not killed) by police?

Once again proving that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

[Hightop77]

Are we actually comparing protesting the govt at a govt building because of what the govt is doing, to burning down mom and pop shops over an armed rapist that was shot (and not killed) by police?

Once again proving that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

When the Left takes over buildings, not only does the government not remove them by force, they make sure they have food and water for them.

[ScarletHayes]

Are we actually comparing protesting the govt at a govt building because of what the govt is doing, to burning down mom and pop shops over an armed rapist that was shot (and not killed) by police?

Once again proving that truth is indeed stranger than fiction.

If you guys didn't hear Chuck Schumer wax on on the senate floor last night you should search for it.  The only thing missing in his delusional rant was a violin.  These people act as if they've been a sleep for years and woke up yesterday.

[Hightop77]

Leftists in academia come through as expected.

IU political scientist calls pro-Trump riot at US Capitol 'attempted coup' 

"It's an attempted coup, at least an attempt in some form or fashion to reject the election outcome," said Steven Webster, an assistant professor at Indiana University who studies anger in politics. "This sets a dangerous precedent, and I think the fact that this has happened means it's likely that it could happen again in the future."

https://www.wdrb.com/news/iu-political-s...2e1c0.html

[ScarletHayes]

Lmao.  Apparently self awareness isn't taught at IU.

[Conanthelibrarian]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

What rule of law?  When only one side follows it, it is meaningless.

I understand your point, but I have not seen enough evidence to believe the election was rigged and stolen.  I believe he lost by 100k votes in a few keys battle states, much like he won by 100k votes in those same key states last time.  So he lost a very close election.  It sucks, but it happens.

So we differ on our view of the "facts", and thus have arrived at different conclusions. 

Forget the election.  You were talking about rule of law.  Are you still not convinced that after 4 years of Democrats illegally trying to remove Trump from office using the FBI and DOJ with no legal consequences that we have rule of law?  How about the fact that people like Hillary Clinton can violate every federal national security law in the book with no charges?  How about the fact that BLM/antifa are given full permission to loot and destroy dozens of US cities with no consequences?  How about the fact that people trying to defend themselves or their property from rioters and looters like Kyle Rittenhouse and the McCloskey's were charged while the looters were not?

I think alot/most of what the Dems came up with was crap and was political pandering.  And they LOST, so rule of law worked despite the fact they tried to abuse it for their own ends.  Evidence was heard and no charges were brought.
Hillary.  The rich and powerful are untouchable.  Its the way the world works.  Both left and right.  I hate it, but thats the way it works.  Nothing will ever change that because humans are easily corruptible.
I agree the riots should have been stopped and its sad that they weren't.  Many of them took place in Dem controlled areas and they let their own people destroy their own towns.  Its sad.  They should have been gassed, water cannoned, and shot if necessary.  
Rittenhouse being charged is not a huge surprise since he shot three people on the open street, but he will see is day in court like he should.

Is rule of law upheld everywhere all the time by everyone perfectly?  Absolutely not.  But it has value, and as conservatives we should bring people to our side because they see us upholding it and the other side flaunting and ignoring it.  We should be the safety people flee too when they see BLM burning cities to the ground.  We should not imitate them.

[Hightop77]

Im proud that unlike last summer, when Dems were pretty much silent or gave approval, many republicans are standing up and saying that what happened yesterday was wrong. 

I dont care about the other side, I want my side to act like civilized people who follow the rule of law.  Not feelings based animals who commit violence when they are mad.

So, this morning, I am grateful for that.

What rule of law?  When only one side follows it, it is meaningless.

I understand your point, but I have not seen enough evidence to believe the election was rigged and stolen.  I believe he lost by 100k votes in a few keys battle states, much like he won by 100k votes in those same key states last time.  So he lost a very close election.  It sucks, but it happens.

So we differ on our view of the "facts", and thus have arrived at different conclusions. 

Forget the election.  You were talking about rule of law.  Are you still not convinced that after 4 years of Democrats illegally trying to remove Trump from office using the FBI and DOJ with no legal consequences that we have rule of law?  How about the fact that people like Hillary Clinton can violate every federal national security law in the book with no charges?  How about the fact that BLM/antifa are given full permission to loot and destroy dozens of US cities with no consequences?  How about the fact that people trying to defend themselves or their property from rioters and looters like Kyle Rittenhouse and the McCloskey's were charged while the looters were not?

I think alot/most of what the Dems came up with was crap and was political pandering.  And they LOST, so rule of law worked despite the fact they tried to abuse it for their own ends.  Evidence was heard and no charges were brought.
Hillary.  The rich and powerful are untouchable.  Its the way the world works.  Both left and right.  I hate it, but thats the way it works.  Nothing will ever change that because humans are easily corruptible.
I agree the riots should have been stopped and its sad that they weren't.  Many of them took place in Dem controlled areas and they let their own people destroy their own towns.  Its sad.  They should have been gassed, water cannoned, and shot if necessary.  
Rittenhouse being charged is not a huge surprise since he shot three people on the open street, but he will see is day in court like he should.

Is rule of law upheld everywhere all the time by everyone perfectly?  Absolutely not.  But it has value, and as conservatives we should bring people to our side because they see us upholding it and the other side flaunting and ignoring it.  We should be the safety people flee too when they see BLM burning cities to the ground.  We should not imitate them.

If you think what you just described is the rule of law, then you simply don't understand the concept.  Democrat criminals within our government were given a complete pass while Trump people, as they were charged with non-violent crimes, were treated like the most dangerous violent criminal suspects with SWAT teams and underwater dive teams arresting them in the middle of the night with CNN present. And Rittenhouse the McCloskeys were charged as political actions. There was no legal basis for the charges.

[Iowa Mels]

Lin Wood is crazy. They're Trumpers. Try to stay sane. Nothing was staged.

 I know that.  I think I need to explain myself a little.  I don't believe anything was staged.

I decided not to watch any news yesterday, so I didn't know anything about this until I saw it on the Nuthouse.  I still wouldn't turn on the television, but decided to try to read about it.  I went to the National Review site and the WSJ.  Both of them had headlines screaming about mobs descending on the Capitol.  On the NR website, in particular, there was a picture of the guy in the video I posted. In the comments to one of the articles, I found the link to the video.    I think the picture was taken shortly after the video ended.  The caption says something about a supporter of President Trump confronting police after breaching security defenses.  That's not how I interpreted that video at all.  How is it "breaching security" when the police officer turns and  walks away?   The guy had the same look that I did when I snuck backstage at concerts in my younger days.  Kind of like, I'm not really supposed to be here, but you're not stopping me so let's see how far I can get?  

As I said, I don't really know how to interpret this.  That video looks to me like it should have been a big nothing.  But, I don't have context for it and I don't know what may have happened after the video ended.  And I don't trust any media outlet to tell me the truth.