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How much money has Sidney Powell grifted at this point, that lady has mental problems. Every case she has had since early 2000's has been like this. Full of conspiracy and wild claims and no evidence.
Trump campaign had spent almost 500 million before Biden had won the Democratic nomination. A billion total by October 2020. They were pressed for money in the last month. The Trump campaign made a lot of mistakes with money...
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(12-15-2020, 01:27 PM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:57 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:47 AM)wydileie Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:27 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: Thanks for the clarification.
Is this real or just some crackpots wannabe scenario? DOes this document have any sort of legitimacy? No idea.
The question we are all asking isn't how much potential there is for fraud, but how much ACTUAL fraud exists. Republicans have been claiming voter fraud for decades and, while there are small amounts of fraud here and there, there has never been evidence of the election-changing, centrally coordinated fraud being claimed. Maybe that's what the $200m+ that Trump has raised since 11/3/2020 will be spent on......
I cant believe that Americans have sent him 200 million dollars AFTER he lost. Is that real? The guy is a BILLIONAIRE, let him spend his own money. It's his campaign, not his personal debt. Big difference.  There is also federal money given to these campaigns too.  It's complicated and I'm not looking it up but there are laws which govern all this and provide matching federal money for election campaigns.
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(12-15-2020, 01:27 PM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:57 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:47 AM)wydileie Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:27 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: Thanks for the clarification.
Is this real or just some crackpots wannabe scenario? DOes this document have any sort of legitimacy? No idea.
The question we are all asking isn't how much potential there is for fraud, but how much ACTUAL fraud exists. Republicans have been claiming voter fraud for decades and, while there are small amounts of fraud here and there, there has never been evidence of the election-changing, centrally coordinated fraud being claimed. Maybe that's what the $200m+ that Trump has raised since 11/3/2020 will be spent on......
I cant believe that Americans have sent him 200 million dollars AFTER he lost. Is that real? The guy is a BILLIONAIRE, let him spend his own money. yes, Trump has raised over $200m since 11/3/2020. I've heard $207, I've heard upwards of $250m.....
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(12-15-2020, 01:35 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (12-15-2020, 01:27 PM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:57 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (12-15-2020, 12:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:47 AM)wydileie Wrote: No idea.
The question we are all asking isn't how much potential there is for fraud, but how much ACTUAL fraud exists. Republicans have been claiming voter fraud for decades and, while there are small amounts of fraud here and there, there has never been evidence of the election-changing, centrally coordinated fraud being claimed. Maybe that's what the $200m+ that Trump has raised since 11/3/2020 will be spent on......
I cant believe that Americans have sent him 200 million dollars AFTER he lost. Is that real? The guy is a BILLIONAIRE, let him spend his own money. yes, Trump has raised over $200m since 11/3/2020. I've heard $207, I've heard upwards of $250m.....
Cant believe people are sending him their hard earned money. Hes a billionaire and can pay off his own debt. People...
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(12-15-2020, 11:17 AM)wydileie Wrote: (12-15-2020, 10:31 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: (12-15-2020, 10:24 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: It may have already been posted, but here are the results from the forensic analysis:
https://www.9and10news.com/content/uploa...DACTED.pdf
Can you explain this document to me? I TOTALLY understand it, I just want to make sure you do. There were quite a few red flags brought up in this document. These are the highlights:- The system responsible for maintaining and tabulating votes was not secure. It was missing critical security updates and Anti-virus updates dating back several years. The election software was also unsecured on a USB drive in a random person's drawer. This opens it up to potential exploitation
- The logs for the voting system were mysteriously missing for all dates prior to two days AFTER the election, stopping any real ability to effectively perform forensic analysis on the vote itself
- 68.5% of ballot entries were flagged as errors, which means they were sent to adjudication where there is no oversight, and any one with system access could change the votes with virtually no accountability
- Voting machine software was updated shortly before the election (against the law), and a couple days after the election (against the law). The update after the election changed 81.96% of ballots in some manner.
- The updated software (after the election) was used for the certified vote counts for the townships after the 81.96% of ballots were changed by the software
Exactly, most elections have a lot of rejected paper ballots, yet this year they were all perfect.
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12-15-2020, 01:44 PM
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(12-15-2020, 12:48 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:47 AM)wydileie Wrote: (12-15-2020, 11:27 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote: Thanks for the clarification.
Is this real or just some crackpots wannabe scenario? DOes this document have any sort of legitimacy? No idea.
The question we are all asking isn't how much potential there is for fraud, but how much ACTUAL fraud exists. Republicans have been claiming voter fraud for decades and, while there are small amounts of fraud here and there, there has never been evidence of the election-changing, centrally coordinated fraud being claimed. If this document is real, this is proof of, at the very least, a software glitch causing catastrophic issues. Whether that "glitch" was intentional need not be proven to show it had an impact on the election. It also would leave the door wide open for someone who would be wanting to coordinate some kind of widespread fraud by flagging a huge number of ballots for manual adjudication that offers no oversight. You plant or payoff a person in a couple of these major districts and you have swung the election with a handful of people and some careful vetting of individuals to find successful targets to turn. It's clear the intelligence community, including US intelligence, don't like Trump. This would be a trivial thing for the CIA to do if they really wanted to.Â
That's all presupposing this document is real, of which I have no clue. I'm a rather skeptical person with no real horse in the Presidential election race (although I would have preferred Trump out of the two). That being said, strange things have gone on with this election, including the Wisconsin case thrown out yesterday for being "too late", and a Republican state government in Georgia not being willing to require signature matches on ballots. Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Georgia all having Democratic stronghold districts shutting down counting the night of the election, which I haven't seen happen in my lifetime, and in the dead of night (when they supposedly weren't counting) closing 8-15% voter margins. Arizona being called so early when it was a razor thin final margin, while Florida and Ohio were over for hours before any calls were made. It's all very strange and certainly there are some valid concerns. I can understand why some people believe the election was stolen.
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