Zimbabwe comes to America

[Hightop77]

What were the destructive forces unleashed against black farmers that weren't unleashed against white farmers?  

I mean let's get real about math too.  How many black farmers really are there?  I'm sure there's a nice contingent in the south, but beyond that?  Most blacks live in urban areas.  Overwhelmingly so.  So what are they going to do, use govt money to teach people how to farm that really have no interest in farming?  What could go wrong?  

Waste, starvation, and complete chaos is a small price to pay for social justice.

Notice how the board Lefties never show up to defend this insanity?

that's what you made it about with the ridiculous comparison to Zimbabwe......

It's not a ridiculous comparison.  What is ridiculous is how you attack someone for pointing out this idiocy.

Here's a novel idea....
Don't make silly comparisons, don't have those comparisons 'attacked'.  But that is what happens on message boards.  Silly ideas get mocked for what they are.

I explained the comparison and how Zimbabwe attempted to create more black farmers which damaged their food supply.  This would be similar, creating blacks farmers by welfare handouts and potentially damaging our food supply.

Truth is you used hyperbole to say Zimbabwe is coming to USA and starvation will ensue.   This is fact.  Go back and read your original post.  Our food supply will not suffer one bit of damage due to this IDEA and if implemented.  You sorta of changed and pivoted when last you posted.   Carry on.

I gave you the comparisons to Zimbabwe, namely handing blacks farm land through the power of government.  We can speculate how that will play out.  No one said it will be exactly like Zimbabwe.  But at what point do we become like Zimbabwe as blacks get more and more preferential treatment while whites are attacked and demonized?

[3rdgensooner]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

[unc4corners]

Having the government involved would make it a disaster.

[davebucknut]

Of course it would create another department within the USDA with a starting budget of 8 bill. , nah only chump change. Novel suggestion, what not help ALL farmers who are struggling and teach them in addition too the black farmers...

Can someone name one Democrat welfare program that didn't explode and wind up costing much much more than the original legislation claimed?

I agree with most everything that you do, except for your affinity for hitler.

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[Hightop77]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

[3rdgensooner]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

None of your post makes any sense and is not rooted in any reality. No one given the farms in Zimbabwe were actually farmers for the most part or interested in being farmers. This was a political issue. Similar in many ways to what happened in Ireland actually aside the confiscation. 
I'm not saying this is good policy. It isn't and is likely to cause a lot of problems and fail. But the comparison to Zimbabwe is absurd as is the notion blacks can't be farmers.

[3rdgensooner]

In Ireland the land was owned by absentee owners who leased the land through middlemen to subsistence farmers. Their plots were such that potatoes pretty much had to be the crop and only crop because they couldn't grow enough on the small areas to survive otherwise. When that single crop failed starvation ensued. Much worse than what happened in Zimbabwe BTW. 
In Zimbabwe the government confiscated farms/farmland and gave it to well connected political elites not farmers and not interested in being farmers. They mainly leased the land to subsistence farmers. Seeing a connection? Now it wasn't a one crop situation so the famine conditions weren't anywhere near that suffered by the Irish but as you can see race wasn't really the problem in either place. Although the Irish were held in barely better esteem than blacks for quite a while here and in the UK.

[Blinky]

[Beastdog]

Does blinky rhyme with brutusbuckeye? Seems it might.

[Alabuckeye]

The posting style fits.

[zigbee]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

Most whites don't either.  That is the truth.  Difference between me and you is pretty simple: I admit that there are issues with both races which is a problem not so much with the genes but with the rearing, environment, parents, education, and so forth.    I point out jackrod whites like Schumer or Pelosi, etc who are idiots which are white and you come back they are Jewish.  Tells me you are anti semetic as well in your support of Hilter not being deposed.   You've pretty much stepped from behind the curtain of late in how you view people.   It's obvious to the board.

[Hightop77]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

None of your post makes any sense and is not rooted in any reality. No one given the farms in Zimbabwe were actually farmers for the most part or interested in being farmers. This was a political issue. Similar in many ways to what happened in Ireland actually aside the confiscation. 
I'm not saying this is good policy. It isn't and is likely to cause a lot of problems and fail. But the comparison to Zimbabwe is absurd as is the notion blacks can't be farmers.

And there is no certainty that money and land given to blacks under this program will result in productive farms or even given to legitimate farmers.  This is also a very political issue.  The comparison is not absurd as I made it because I did not say it was exactly the same thing.  It is the same in that blacks with likely no ability to produce a profitable and productive farm are being given land by government instead of earning it themselves.

[Hightop77]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

Most whites don't either.  That is the truth. 

But the whites that do have farms either inherited them through their family or purchased and built them on their own.  They were not handed to them as the Democrats want to do with this program.  Any black who wishes to have a farm can do so and isn't being excluded because of race.  There should be no government welfare programs giving farms to blacks or anyone else.

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[3rdgensooner]

When the English had the Irish farm their land they starved.  It's moronic to compare a third world experience that is completely different to a US situation. We all think this is bad policy. We just don't think it's bad policy because we think black people can't be farmers because a politically idiotic policy in Zimbabwe was a disaster.

I will stick with my comparison if it's all the same.  Most blacks in America have no more capability to run a large commercial farm than they did in Zimbabwe.  And if this becomes a reality it will be a massive failure and of course it will be blamed not on the blacks or the Democrat politicians but on whites and system racism.  No different than when so many blacks defaulted on their government mandated home mortgages.  Instead of blaming the blacks who didn't pay their loans, the blame was placed on racist banks that were forced at gun point to give them the loans.

None of your post makes any sense and is not rooted in any reality. No one given the farms in Zimbabwe were actually farmers for the most part or interested in being farmers. This was a political issue. Similar in many ways to what happened in Ireland actually aside the confiscation. 
I'm not saying this is good policy. It isn't and is likely to cause a lot of problems and fail. But the comparison to Zimbabwe is absurd as is the notion blacks can't be farmers.

And there is no certainty that money and land given to blacks under this program will result in productive farms or even given to legitimate farmers.  This is also a very political issue.  The comparison is not absurd as I made it because I did not say it was exactly the same thing.  It is the same in that blacks with likely no ability to produce a profitable and productive farm are being given land by government instead of earning it themselves.

No one here is saying this is likely to be a program that would be successful. I can barely count the problems I see with it. My objections were clear.