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Hitler hated the communists for the same reason that Mussolini hated the socialists, of which he once was. The German communists and Italian socialists looked to the Soviet Union for leadership. Had they looked to Hitler and Mussolini, there wouldn't have been an issue.
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(11-23-2020, 07:00 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler hated the communists for the same reason that Mussolini hated the socialists, of which he once was. The German communists and Italian socialists looked to the Soviet Union for leadership. Had they looked to Hitler and Mussolini, there wouldn't have been an issue.
The German communists had no logical reason to turn to Hitler because he hated communism and socialism.
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(11-23-2020, 07:10 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:00 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler hated the communists for the same reason that Mussolini hated the socialists, of which he once was. The German communists and Italian socialists looked to the Soviet Union for leadership. Had they looked to Hitler and Mussolini, there wouldn't have been an issue.
The German communists had no logical reason to turn to Hitler because he hated communism and socialism.
Are you saying or implying that Hitler was a free-market capitalist?
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(11-23-2020, 07:19 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:10 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:00 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler hated the communists for the same reason that Mussolini hated the socialists, of which he once was. The German communists and Italian socialists looked to the Soviet Union for leadership. Had they looked to Hitler and Mussolini, there wouldn't have been an issue.
The German communists had no logical reason to turn to Hitler because he hated communism and socialism.
Are you saying or implying that Hitler was a free-market capitalist?
He knew how to employ German industry with elements of capitalism and he created the strongest country in the world at that time. There is not one thing he did that advanced socialism and in fact did the complete opposite. Yes he was a dictator but calling him a socialist is just historically inaccurate. As I have said, he fought the same antifa that we are fighting today and as we see they are every bit as ruthless as Hitler. He beat them at their own game in terms of meeting violence with violence. Meanwhile Americans cower in their homes as BLM and antifa take over the cities. I like Hitler's way of dealing with them better than surrendering in fear.
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Hitler's regime dictated to private businesses how they must run their businesses. In fact, Hitler's regime dicated everything to everyone. He was the epitome of a leftist.
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(11-23-2020, 07:33 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler's regime dictated to private businesses how they must run their businesses. In fact, Hitler's regime dicated everything to everyone. He was the epitome of a leftist.
He was not a leftist in any form or fashion. Reciting it over and over won't make it so.  I doubt there is one person in our country today that hates Leftists as much as Hitler did.
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(11-23-2020, 06:17 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 05:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 04:13 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler did indeed use his Brown to violently suppress communists. Once Hitler attained power, communists were sent to concentration camps or shot dead. Sort of, but ultimately he ended up having a quasi Communist administration anyways, so really it was 2 sides of the same coin.
His brown shirts are equal to antifa/blm imo.
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How was it quasi communist? He threw every socialist and communist out of the government and had a literal war on communists and those who sympathized with them. He ran under the "national socialist" banner to get elected but he was no socialist. Call him a nationalist in the extreme or even a fascist but no one hated communists more than Hitler. I wish we did the same here. Instead they have taken us over. He took over private sector companies and nationalized them, he literally stole money from german citizens and funneled it into his war machine.
I realize that you worship the guy, but stop pretending that he wasn't fascist/communist/ king/dictator (whatever term a person chooses to describe him as.
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He was a fascist with sprinkles of socialism, like universal health care, and capitalism—which we now call state capitalism.  Which is, of course, just fascism by another name
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(11-23-2020, 07:45 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 06:17 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 05:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 04:13 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler did indeed use his Brown to violently suppress communists. Once Hitler attained power, communists were sent to concentration camps or shot dead. Sort of, but ultimately he ended up having a quasi Communist administration anyways, so really it was 2 sides of the same coin.
His brown shirts are equal to antifa/blm imo.
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How was it quasi communist? He threw every socialist and communist out of the government and had a literal war on communists and those who sympathized with them. He ran under the "national socialist" banner to get elected but he was no socialist. Call him a nationalist in the extreme or even a fascist but no one hated communists more than Hitler. I wish we did the same here. Instead they have taken us over. He took over private sector companies and nationalized them, he literally stole money from german citizens and funneled it into his war machine.
I realize that you worship the guy, but stop pretending that he wasn't fascist/communist/ king/dictator (whatever term a person chooses to describe him as.
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The German people loved him. I don't worship him at all but I do get sick of misguided/ignorant conservatives saying he was a socialist or Leftist. He was anything but that and he knew how to deal with the kind of people we are allowing to destroy this country. As Patton said, we defeated the wrong enemy.
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(11-23-2020, 07:51 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: He was a fascist with sprinkles of socialism, like universal health care, and capitalism—which we now call state capitalism.  Which is, of course, just fascism by another name
No was required to participate in Germany's state health care system until 1941. The reality is Germany had programs like retirement and the like that were no different than the social welfare programs we in the United States are required to participate in.
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(11-23-2020, 07:56 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:45 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 06:17 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 05:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 04:13 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Hitler did indeed use his Brown to violently suppress communists. Once Hitler attained power, communists were sent to concentration camps or shot dead. Sort of, but ultimately he ended up having a quasi Communist administration anyways, so really it was 2 sides of the same coin.
His brown shirts are equal to antifa/blm imo.
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How was it quasi communist? He threw every socialist and communist out of the government and had a literal war on communists and those who sympathized with them. He ran under the "national socialist" banner to get elected but he was no socialist. Call him a nationalist in the extreme or even a fascist but no one hated communists more than Hitler. I wish we did the same here. Instead they have taken us over. He took over private sector companies and nationalized them, he literally stole money from german citizens and funneled it into his war machine.
I realize that you worship the guy, but stop pretending that he wasn't fascist/communist/ king/dictator (whatever term a person chooses to describe him as.
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The German people loved him. I don't worship him at all but I do get sick of misguided/ignorant conservatives saying he was a socialist or Leftist. He was anything but that and he knew how to deal with the kind of people we are allowing to destroy this country. As Patton said, we defeated the wrong enemy. You're misappropriation of patton's quote is funny, he meant that in regards to Communist ideology.
Many of the German people did love him, but also many feared him or were killed by him ir they weren't aryan or didn't agree with his solutions.
Hitler did have socialist policies for several years too before his all out take over of everything.
Your sense of his policies is greatly misunderstood
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(11-23-2020, 08:01 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:56 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 07:45 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-23-2020, 06:17 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-23-2020, 05:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote: Sort of, but ultimately he ended up having a quasi Communist administration anyways, so really it was 2 sides of the same coin.
His brown shirts are equal to antifa/blm imo.
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How was it quasi communist? He threw every socialist and communist out of the government and had a literal war on communists and those who sympathized with them. He ran under the "national socialist" banner to get elected but he was no socialist. Call him a nationalist in the extreme or even a fascist but no one hated communists more than Hitler. I wish we did the same here. Instead they have taken us over. He took over private sector companies and nationalized them, he literally stole money from german citizens and funneled it into his war machine.
I realize that you worship the guy, but stop pretending that he wasn't fascist/communist/ king/dictator (whatever term a person chooses to describe him as.
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The German people loved him. I don't worship him at all but I do get sick of misguided/ignorant conservatives saying he was a socialist or Leftist. He was anything but that and he knew how to deal with the kind of people we are allowing to destroy this country. As Patton said, we defeated the wrong enemy. You're misappropriation of patton's quote is funny, he meant that in regards to Communist ideology.
Many of the German people did love him, but also many feared him or were killed by him ir they weren't aryan or didn't agree with his solutions.
Hitler did have socialist policies for several years too before his all out take over of everything.
Your sense of his policies is greatly misunderstoodÂ
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What socialist policies did he initiate? Why did he purge his government of communists and socialists and groups that sympathized with them.  And yes, Patton's quote was clearly with regard to Stalin, the USSR, and communism. They were the real threat to America, not Hitler.  In case you don't understand, that is exactly what infiltrated and took over every major institution in America including the media, entertainment, and academia. That is what the Democratic Party is turning into.  Communism, which "progressiveism" is just another form of, is what is destroying us.
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