(11-21-2020, 07:44 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Which part, the coming to a public school near you, or homeschooling being outlawed? Or both? Zig, I don't put anything past this woke movement. We see how quickly people fold when their bottom line is threatened. Look at these large corporations giving into this lunacy. So, yeah, wouldn't surprise me at all if I woke up one day and was told that home-schooling your kids was an act outside the law. State or federal, doesn't matter. I totally expect to see it sometime down the road. For one reason, people pulling their kids out of school en masse. Teachers' unions will be lobbying like a SOB to pump the brakes on that, etc, etc, etc...
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11-22-2020, 10:21 AM
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I'm not calling that for Biden (home schooling being outside the law). I think I already mentioned that being out a little ways yet. It won't surprise me a bit when it happens though. When the stuff like the 1619 project gets shoved into public schools, and then when parents start pulling their kids out of school is when you will start to see moves against home schooling really begin to take root.
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(11-22-2020, 10:21 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I'm not calling that for Biden (home schooling being outside the law). I think I already mentioned that being out a little ways yet. It won't surprise me a bit when it happens though. When the stuff like the 1619 project gets shoved into public schools, and then when parents start pulling their kids out of school is when you will start to see moves against home schooling really begin to take root. Again, schools are state run and locally run. We aren't teaching any of that stuff.  Teachers are at liberty to choose their methods of teaching, books, etc. The only subjects that are fully tested now that is needed to graduate and passed are math, science, and English.  I taught history and NEVER once taught that gibberish. I designed my entire year course and taught it from the migration to the Americas to WWII and beyond if I had time.  Never taught anything like what is this project. There are FAR more red states than blue.  It's fine.  Home schooling would be challenged in courts and home schooling is a TINY fraction of who chooses it.  Charter schools will benefit from this move to remove students, and charter schools are here to stay and do a much better job of educating youth.  BUSING didn't ruin public schools, it was the destruction of families and rearing of children AND teachers unions which have hurt.  AND believe it or NOT, we have 100s of great public schools right here in Ohio which are normal and doing well where they are supported by great families.
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11-22-2020, 11:15 AM
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Zig I hear you, but I think you underestimate this insanity and the money and power behind it. Nothing happens overnight, but the camel's nose is already under the tent canopy. My wife is a teacher, and I fully expect to hear the stories coming in in the coming years. Attaching a person's living to a movement, you want to see come to fruition, is the quickest way to make it happen. I hear a lot of these teachers' unions are all in on this stuff. So as a teacher, there goes your so called advocate now working against you. Â
Stay tuned.
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(11-22-2020, 11:15 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig I hear you, but I think you underestimate this insanity and the money and power behind it. Nothing happens overnight, but the camel's nose is already under the tent canopy. My wife is a teacher, and I fully expect to hear the stories coming in in the coming years. Attaching a person's living to a movement you want to see come to fruition is the quickest way to make it happen. I hear a lot of these teachers' unions are all in on this stuff. So as a teacher, there goes your so called advocate now working against you. Â
Stay tuned. Not underestimating a thing. In fact, I'd say you and the other naysayers are underestimating the 73 million who voted conservative for Trump, the seats picked up in congress (even in California), the fact the majority of states have conservative legislatures, AND the great fact this entire election is being challenged to further expose the radical left. I'm sorry, I'm just not as pessimistic as you and some are when I see all this.  Everyone is entitled to an opinion, and I can tell my mine is home schooling, charter schools, teaching history, will not change under some iron fist of liberalism and a Liberal NAZI regime taking over this nation.  Hell, the fastest growing ethnic group is Hispanic and large portion of them supported Trump in Florida and Texas.
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(11-22-2020, 11:15 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig I hear you, but I think you underestimate this insanity and the money and power behind it. Nothing happens overnight, but the camel's nose is already under the tent canopy. My wife is a teacher, and I fully expect to hear the stories coming in in the coming years. Attaching a person's living to a movement, you want to see come to fruition, is the quickest way to make it happen. I hear a lot of these teachers' unions are all in on this stuff. So as a teacher, there goes your so called advocate now working against you. Â
Stay tuned.
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Yeah, sure that's it.  FOX News mode....not looking at voters, state legislatures, governors, seats gained, Hispanic vote in Florida and Texas......and my own job (s) on teaching history and knowledge of charter schools and using common sense....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.  You all are free to go to another country or hide under you bed. I really don't care.
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My response to that is that you assume that everything will go by the rules we've set up as a nation and have played by for roughly 244 years. I just think you underestimate the lust for power and control. We've reached a point I've never seen before -- A point where nothing is off limits. Nothing is a bridge too far. These people will do ANYTHING to get their agenda through. The left will allow people to die if it helps them get their way/further their agenda. Look at the orchestrated rioting. Look at the relief bills Nancy has held up in congress. Why? Because she/they are ruthless and don't give a crap as to the level of pain their actions may inflict on Americans. Â
Look, it will take those 70+ million voters to rise up. This isn't going to be easy. This game isn't going to be played by long-established rules and tradition. What that looks like? I hope it isn't a civil war. Â
You wonder why some people are so negative? We just witnessed a 4 year coup attempt where NO ONE of significance will pay any price whatsoever. We just saw an election stolen in real time. Trump was up by, what was it, close to 700K votes in Pa when I went to bed on election night? They STOP the count/unplug the machines, and I'm supposed to believe he lost Pa by a nice chunk of votes? Really? Again, stuff like this is why people are so negative. There is nothing off limits now. When you can't trust election outcomes, I don't care how many people are against their agenda(s).    etc, etc, etc...
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No, not underestimating any attempts at whatever.  Like I said you all are entitled to your opinions. I don't agree and I'll be right here in USA and there will be home schooling and there will be charter schools and there will be states deciding on how to teach history.  The day what you all fear comes there will be a giant revolution among those 70+ million who won't put up with this. We aren't headed to a NAZI liberal state. There is not one thing liberals have done in last 50 years which has changed my life since I was a kid. Not one.
EDIT: those attempts to impeach? Legal. The spying on Trump? Still investigated. Flynn? Looks to be set free. The election? It's in the courts. ALL the things tried have not worked for liberals and don't be surprised at this next election fraud to be in courts. That is a good sign
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(11-22-2020, 12:03 PM)zigbee Wrote: No, not underestimating any attempts at whatever.  Like I said you all are entitled to your opinions. I don't agree and I'll be right here in USA and there will be home schooling and there will be charter schools and there will be states deciding on how to teach history.  The day what you all fear comes there will be a giant revolution among those 70+ million who won't put up with this. We aren't headed to a NAZI liberal state. There is not one thing liberals have done in last 50 years which has changed my life since I was a kid. Not one.
EDIT: those attempts to impeach? Legal. The spying on Trump? Still investigated. Flynn? Looks to be set free. The election? It's in the courts. ALL the things tried have not worked for liberals and don't be surprised at this next election fraud to be in courts. That is a good sign
Just off the top of my head, legalized baby murder. Homosexual marriage normalized (this one makes me laugh hysterically that something that absolutely counter to all human reason and experience could possibly have come to fruition). Free speech infringed upon (look at FB and Twitter). 2nd amendment constantly under assault. Private property rights under assault via things like environmental regulations. Businesses shut down and/or hampered by the snap of a governor's fingers with no say by the state legislatures. Smoking made illegal in PRIVATE business. etc...Â
Now you personally may have not been affected, but a lot of other people have. The goal posts keep drifting left. To me that is undeniable.
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No one makes someone get an abortion.  Two dudes getting married is their business.  I own guns just the same. Like I said, it's really zero changes.  FB and twitter are ATTEMPTING all this but they are being scrutinized by congress. Is this not good? They are called out?  Would you not be further worried if not ???  Trump also relaxed many environmental issues, none of which made any difference in least one way or another.  Those hammer shut closings are more so in liberal states.  DeWine shut it down a while but I'm back in gym and restaurants open and my hair gets cut. He was also challenged over it by the electorate who voted Trump and had to reopen.
Look, again, you all can be as pessimistic as you wish.  My life is just the same and no different than 50 years ago.
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11-22-2020, 12:36 PM
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(11-22-2020, 12:26 PM)zigbee Wrote: No one makes someone get an abortion.  Two dudes getting married is their business.  I own guns just the same. Like I said, it's really zero changes.  FB and twitter are ATTEMPTING all this but they are being scrutinized by congress. Is this not good? They are called out?  Would you not be further worried if not ???  Trump also relaxed many environmental issues, none of which made any difference in least one way or another.  Those hammer shut closings are more so in liberal states.  DeWine shut it down a while but I'm back in gym and restaurants open and my hair gets cut. He was also challenged over it by the electorate who voted Trump and had to reopen.
Look, again, you all can be as pessimistic as you wish.  My life is just the same and no different than 50 years ago.
I didn't say anyone was forced to have an abortion; I'm simply saying that it became legal to murder your unborn child. That's happened in the last 50 years. Â
2 dudes getting "married" is a sign of a nation going absolutely insane. That is the epitome of creeping liberalism. States had routinely voted against it, but liberal justices at the state and federal levels have now normalized it. Â
Guns? In some places it's almost impossible to have one, but if you do it's made irrelevant if you aren't allowed to keep it in your car, etc... Â
FB and twitter are routinely assaulting free speech. No they're not the govt, but that's an awfully nice work-around to censor and/or shut down conservative voices via all sorts of little tricks and gimmicks.Â
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Life for a lot of Americans has changed a lot over the last 50 years.
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My life here in Ohio has not changed ONE DOT over guns, or abortion or gay marriage. ZERO.  Those states where someone may be impacted (the most of this would be guns) decided sometimes to vote in people who did this.
Let me add about FB and twitter: did they not reverse this for NY Post and admit wrong doing? Yes, they did. Their actions further exposed them and the news and that proves that our system bucks this and works to right it
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11-22-2020, 12:54 PM
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Was GM a thing 50+ years ago (or ever in the history of civilization)? No. Abortion? No. Drag queens reading story time in elementary schools? No.  etc...  i.e. Society has clearly moved radically left over the last 50 years. Â
Let me ask you this:Â can you speak in the work place as freely as you could, say, just 10-20 years ago?
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