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Why do you believe that Biden is better for America?
#73
(11-14-2020, 11:46 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: So adding 8 hours to your work week simply to fill out paper work and jump through government hoops isn't excessive in your mind?  Remember, it's his practice.  He isn't an employee.  This is forced compliance over govt BS.  So it's on top of everything else he already has to do. 

Hey, I thought you were a Libertarian.   Dodgy

I don't like government interference in business like Obamacare has caused in this case.   I'm simply making the point that Obama, the most disliked and feared (because of his alleged socialist agenda) Dem president in memory had the impact of making the jobs of doctors a little more time consuming. That's it. So, let's just wait and see what ACTUALLY happens under Biden....
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#74
(11-15-2020, 07:05 AM)maize Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:36 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:35 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Different environment than 2008.  Theyâ€re naked Marxists and deep-staters now.  They are going for it.  Fundamental transformation is now at our doorstep.  

Look, I hope you are right.  Iâ€ll gladly be wrong.  I donâ€t think I am though

You need to turn off Fox News  Smile
That talking point is dumb. Other than The Five and Tucker, I am done with Fox. I know a lot of people have similar thoughts.

I disagree.  Cable news stations and social media have caused a lot of the division we're seeing in the country now.  Fox News was 99% doom and gloom regarding Obama before he even took office and kept up the dangerous rhetoric for both terms, just like CNN  did with Trump.

I almost never watch Fox or CNN - never watch MSNBC, so I don't know what they've changed, but if it's making the hardcore Trump supporters here unhappy, it may have been a change for the better.
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#75
Hannity was all over Obama, and that was essentially the gist of it.  He kind of thought the guy's past, regarding pesky things like being chummy with domestic terrorists and being down with Marxism, was kind of a big deal.  Trump was just a jackass that was into wrestling and had his own TV show.  And get this, he's pretty into capitalism as well.  Oh the horror.  

I don't think Hannity ever out and out intentionally lied about Obama on a day in and day out basis.  He opposed Obama's policies and his freaky azz associations, but what the media establishment has done to Trump?  They were willing to lie so much and to go so far as to completely ruin their own reputation(s) as sources of news.  They were/are political operatives, no doubt being paid for their services.  Now?  They have thrown all in on likely election theft.  They won't even admit to you that, YES, there are bizarre statistical anomalies and credible examples of election fraud.  They won't even acknowledge the dead people that have somehow managed to vote in this election.  If you can't even take that step to at least investigate basic statements of fact?  Acknowledge that SCOTUS had to step in and comment and pump the brakes on Pennsylvania?  etc...  You have no interest in doing the basics of your damn job.  You are now a total advocate for one side.  When many questions start with "...baseless claims of election fraud..."  it's time for some soul searching.  It's time to realize that journalism might not have been the right choice for you.

With this election coverage by Fox, they have severely harmed their credibility among their most loyal viewers.  What was done in regards to calling states like Arizona likely damaged their reputation to the point where they may have lost a lot of viewers for good.  


This is simply no longer a free press.  They march to the beat of a certain drum or else.  I think that's pretty apparent to most folks by now.  


And yes, Tucker Carlson is the best in the business.  No one else comes close.  He is the kind of commentator they should all try to emulate.
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#76
(11-14-2020, 09:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 08:58 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Yes.  As I said, your view is on the clock.  Iâ€ll give it a fair shake, but I think we both know that if the Dems win both those senate seats itâ€s game over.  Honestly, even if the GOP keeps both seats we have Collins and Murkowski chomping at the bit to give the left everything theyâ€ve ever asked for

You know that Obama had the house and senate for the first two years?
Yepand he rammed through obamacare with 0 GOP votes because of it and it has destroyed our healthcare ever since.

He also didn't do jack ***** for illegal aliens or immigration reform, proving that the left doesn't really care about immigrants, but they sure do love the carrot of promising legalization.

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#77
(11-14-2020, 09:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:39 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:34 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:32 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: And he invested completely in passing Obama Care, paying off his supporters with a phony trillion dollar stimulus package, horrible financial regulation policy, nationalizing the auto industry, and more student loan nonsense.

Please...Congress provided the bill for Obamacare.   If you're going to criticize spending by Dems, you're barking up the wrong tree.  R or D, they're all the same.

And much of it was written by Obama's elitist advisors.   YOU brought up that Obama had Congress for his first two years.  I am just pointing out the damage he did with it.  As for Obama's spending, his trillion dollar stimulus package was nothing but a boondoggle to pay back his supporters including government unions.  Also remember Solyndra and the other phony green companies he gave our tax dollars too for their support?

I don't disagree with most of that, but government spending is not a Dem issue.  How much of your life truly changed because of Obama?

The biggest government spendng is clearly a Democrat issue.  I have already pointed out that nearly two thirds of the budget is Democrat entitlement spending.
Something that I too have pointed out several times (albeit not on here), but the dems refuse to cut 1 penny from any of their pet projects and always make it seem as though "millions of people will die" if they do.

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#78
(11-14-2020, 09:59 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:39 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:34 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: Please...Congress provided the bill for Obamacare.   If you're going to criticize spending by Dems, you're barking up the wrong tree.  R or D, they're all the same.

And much of it was written by Obama's elitist advisors.   YOU brought up that Obama had Congress for his first two years.  I am just pointing out the damage he did with it.  As for Obama's spending, his trillion dollar stimulus package was nothing but a boondoggle to pay back his supporters including government unions.  Also remember Solyndra and the other phony green companies he gave our tax dollars too for their support?

I don't disagree with most of that, but government spending is not a Dem issue.  How much of your life truly changed because of Obama?

The biggest government spendng is clearly a Democrat issue.  I have already pointed out that nearly two thirds of the budget is Democrat entitlement spending.
 Ok, but how much of your life changed under Obama?
A lot.
My Healthcare premiums have doubled, deductibles have tripled, and he corrupted the govt beyond repair.

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#79
(11-14-2020, 10:10 PM)unc4corners Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 10:03 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: Obama basically trashed my career and my life and my specialty. I spend at least a full day a week extra working to deal with mandates under ACA and Hitech and I get far less real work done that would actually benefit my patients. No question at least 8 hours a week of uncompensated useless gummint BS. A day I could actually spend being a physician or enjoying my life. GD low life dimwitted scumbags.  A big part of why you can't find a primary care physician because no one in their right mind graduating med school will do it unless they have no other option.
Wife and I have had about 5 different primary care physician's during the Obama years.  Each time we went to the Dr they put us with someone new because the previous one left to start his own private care.
Yep we couldn't keep our Dr. Or our insurance as I've had a different Dr and Ins every year since.

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#80
(11-15-2020, 09:53 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 09:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-14-2020, 08:58 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Yes.  As I said, your view is on the clock.  Iâ€ll give it a fair shake, but I think we both know that if the Dems win both those senate seats itâ€s game over.  Honestly, even if the GOP keeps both seats we have Collins and Murkowski chomping at the bit to give the left everything theyâ€ve ever asked for

You know that Obama had the house and senate for the first two years?
Yepand he rammed through obamacare with 0 GOP votes because of it and it has destroyed our healthcare ever since.

He also didn't do jack ***** for illegal aliens or immigration reform, proving that the left doesn't really care about immigrants, but they sure do love the carrot of promising legalization.

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How has our healthcare been destroyed?
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#81
By most measures health has declined and life expectancy declined for the first time in half a century during the Obama administration. Although premature death is probably the best measure and that has increased, not good. So basically people were less healthy and more died. That is in fact a big deal. The problem is they focus on insurance then try to micromanage anyone who accepts the insurance. So essentially you have professionals being micromanaged by idiots and the result is predictable. I get they want to control cost and know what they're paying for. The problem is they're out of their league and they get in the way.  No, the Dems and Obama did massive damage to healthcare and the health of the nation. We need Georgia to stave off more damage and damage to other industries for at least a little while.
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#82
To summarize here, nobody has been able to explain how the country has been turned upside down or destroyed by the Obama administration. The same Obama administration that was attacked before during and after his terms by every right-wing media outlet and talking head.
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#83
And, I suspect that no Democrat would be able to explain how Trump ruined the country either. Does that stop the rhetoric by any of the cable news channels or other liberal outlets? Nope. Why, because they don't care about reality. They care about ratings and clicks.
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#84
Do you believe the country/govt has moved farther left since 2008?  In other words, are we closer today to the looming fecal show than we were in 2008?  The answer to me is pretty obvious.  When he said fundamental transformation I believe him.  Why would you casually say something so out of left field (pun intended) like that, for laughs?
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