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(11-13-2020, 06:59 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Honestly the fact that “things are taught in seminary school†doesnâ€t help the case. Seminaries have been taken over by the same people that took over colleges. Many Pastors come out of seminary with again, head knowledge and zero touch or interaction with the Spirit of God. Denominations are full of pastors that prob start off with good intentions, then get roped into the system of promotion, more money etc. Certainly not all but a bunch.
What has happened to the Presbyterian Church? The Episcopal Church? The United Methodist Church? And others....
Seminaries started questioning the authority of the Bible.....started trying to compromise the Biblical stands with the vacillating of the common culture.
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(11-16-2020, 11:42 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-13-2020, 06:59 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Honestly the fact that “things are taught in seminary school†doesnâ€t help the case. Seminaries have been taken over by the same people that took over colleges. Many Pastors come out of seminary with again, head knowledge and zero touch or interaction with the Spirit of God. Denominations are full of pastors that prob start off with good intentions, then get roped into the system of promotion, more money etc. Certainly not all but a bunch.
What has happened to the Presbyterian Church? The Episcopal Church? The United Methodist Church? And others....
Largely fragmented with people who rejected the liberalism starting new denominations. Meanwhile the old mainstream bodies are dying a slow death after being taken over by feminists and homosexuals.
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(11-16-2020, 11:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:42 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-13-2020, 06:59 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Honestly the fact that “things are taught in seminary school†doesnâ€t help the case. Seminaries have been taken over by the same people that took over colleges. Many Pastors come out of seminary with again, head knowledge and zero touch or interaction with the Spirit of God. Denominations are full of pastors that prob start off with good intentions, then get roped into the system of promotion, more money etc. Certainly not all but a bunch.
What has happened to the Presbyterian Church? The Episcopal Church? The United Methodist Church? And others....
Largely fragmented with people who rejected the liberalism starting new denominations. Meanwhile the old mainstream bodies are dying a slow death after being taken over by feminists and homosexuals. yes, that's been the path.....My brother was Episcopal.....his church left that denomination when they went thru the transformation from standing on God's word to standing with decaying culture, and joined the Anglican Church.
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(11-16-2020, 11:51 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:42 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-13-2020, 06:59 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Honestly the fact that “things are taught in seminary school†doesnâ€t help the case. Seminaries have been taken over by the same people that took over colleges. Many Pastors come out of seminary with again, head knowledge and zero touch or interaction with the Spirit of God. Denominations are full of pastors that prob start off with good intentions, then get roped into the system of promotion, more money etc. Certainly not all but a bunch.
What has happened to the Presbyterian Church? The Episcopal Church? The United Methodist Church? And others....
Largely fragmented with people who rejected the liberalism starting new denominations. Meanwhile the old mainstream bodies are dying a slow death after being taken over by feminists and homosexuals. yes, that's been the path.....My brother was Episcopal.....his church left that denomination when they went thru the transformation from standing on God's word to standing with decaying culture, and joined the Anglican Church.
At least where I live, there are plenty of churches that have not been taken over by "homos and feminists". Smaller churches are being squeezed out by the new mega-church types. The type of church that my wife and kids go to, that has a million dollar audio/video system, has been streaming all services for years (before covid), have a campus the size of some community colleges, with an onsite cafe, patio and are a 100% non-judgmental, all are welcome type of place. The sermons are cushy soft. Young couples, who are looking for a place to go with their kids will prefer this kind of place. Traditional churches are turning into repositories for old people who "don't like the loud music" of the new churches.
There's also this:
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(11-16-2020, 01:44 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:51 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:48 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 11:42 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-13-2020, 06:59 PM)Orbit1 Wrote: Honestly the fact that “things are taught in seminary school†doesnâ€t help the case. Seminaries have been taken over by the same people that took over colleges. Many Pastors come out of seminary with again, head knowledge and zero touch or interaction with the Spirit of God. Denominations are full of pastors that prob start off with good intentions, then get roped into the system of promotion, more money etc. Certainly not all but a bunch.
What has happened to the Presbyterian Church? The Episcopal Church? The United Methodist Church? And others....
Largely fragmented with people who rejected the liberalism starting new denominations. Meanwhile the old mainstream bodies are dying a slow death after being taken over by feminists and homosexuals. yes, that's been the path.....My brother was Episcopal.....his church left that denomination when they went thru the transformation from standing on God's word to standing with decaying culture, and joined the Anglican Church.
At least where I live, there are plenty of churches that have not been taken over by "homos and feminists". Smaller churches are being squeezed out by the new mega-church types. The type of church that my wife and kids go to, that has a million dollar audio/video system, has been streaming all services for years (before covid), have a campus the size of some community colleges, with an onsite cafe, patio and are a 100% non-judgmental, all are welcome type of place. The sermons are cushy soft. Young couples, who are looking for a place to go with their kids will prefer this kind of place. Traditional churches are turning into repositories for old people who "don't like the loud music" of the new churches.
There's also this:
Yeah but what God do they believe in?
Paul then stood up in the meeting of the Areopagus and said: "People of Athens! I see that in every way you are very religious.
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exactly.
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They believe in the same God as other Christians. In fact, I think you'd be shocked at just how Biblical the sermons are at my family's church. It's not the ridiculous health, wealth and happiness garbage you get from that charlatan Joel Osteen.
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(11-16-2020, 02:10 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: They believe in the same God as other Christians.
Maybe some do but there is no way that is true as a general statement.
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(11-16-2020, 02:18 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:10 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: They believe in the same God as other Christians.
Maybe some do but there is no way that is true as a general statement.
Some? The are all Bible based churches that preach about Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, death, resurrection, etc. Why would they believe in some other god?
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(11-16-2020, 02:25 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:18 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:10 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: They believe in the same God as other Christians.
Maybe some do but there is no way that is true as a general statement.
Some? The are all Bible based churches that preach about Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, death, resurrection, etc. Why would they believe in some other god?
The poll in your post I was referring to is not about churches.
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There are many churches that outright, or by action, deny the authority of the Bible.
There are many churches that believe that sin, the cross, the redemption that Christ provided, are all outdated concepts.
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(11-16-2020, 02:27 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:25 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:18 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-16-2020, 02:10 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: They believe in the same God as other Christians.
Maybe some do but there is no way that is true as a general statement.
Some? The are all Bible based churches that preach about Jesus, God, Holy Spirit, death, resurrection, etc. Why would they believe in some other god?
The poll in your post I was referring to is not about churches.
Got it. Most religions in the US believe in the God of Abraham. They don't all use the same man-written books, but they generally all get to the same God.
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