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Biden reaches (allegedly) 270, now let's talk recounts, voting audits & court battles
(11-23-2020, 01:39 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:37 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Gas is under $2 a gallon in central Florida.  Can we move up the inauguration so that we can ban fracking and drilling in order to get gas up to $4 a gallon?  It sucks having extra spending money.

You do realize new drilling and fracking has basically ground to a halt? And that has nothing to do with any legal actions? You do know that this is entirely a demand-side shock, right? We could open up the Alaskan wilderness tomorrow, and no one would want to build a drill?

What does that have to do with Democrats promising to eliminate fossil fuels even with no reasonable alternatives in sight.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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(11-23-2020, 01:34 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:26 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:19 PM)zigbee Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:13 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:08 PM)zigbee Wrote: Scarrrrrrrrrrrry?  Please, that is nonsense.   Try living in the real world.   FIFY

Convicted offenders lose the majority of their rights when they are incarcerated.  Once they have done their time and paid their debt to society, there is no basis for denying rights.
You don't make laws....you may have opinion but its not worth much.  I'll give you the laws as written by law makers elected by majority of the people.  You can squawk all you wish but means zero.  Background checks are a purpose.  Why give someone a gun who has killed previous?

SUMMARY OF FEDERAL LAW
Federal law establishes a baseline national standard regarding the criteria that make people ineligible to acquire and possess firearms. The federal Gun Control Act of 1968, codified at 18 U.S.C. § 922, generally prohibits the sale to, and possession of firearms by, a person who:

Has been convicted of, or is under indictment for:
A federal crime punishable by imprisonment for more than one year (typically a felony)
A state crime that is not classified as a misdemeanor and is punishable by imprisonment for more than one year
A state crime that is classified as a misdemeanor under state law and is punishable by more than two years imprisonment3
Is a fugitive from justice4
Is “an unlawful user of or addicted to any controlled substance”5
Though certain states have legalized the use of medical and recreational marijuana, it remains illegal under federal law. Therefore, ATF considers people who use marijuana legally under state law unlawful users of a controlled substance.6
Is underage (For additional information about federal age restrictions for the purchase and possession of firearms, see our page on the Minimum Age to Purchase and Possess Firearms.)
Has been found by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority to be a danger to self or others, or to “lack[] the mental capacity to contract or manage [their] own affairs,” as a result of their mental condition or illness (This prohibition also expressly applies when a person has been found incompetent to stand trial or not guilty of a crime due to mental incapacity)7
Has been involuntarily hospitalized or committed to a mental health or substance abuse treatment facility by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority. (This prohibition does not apply when a person is admitted for treatment voluntarily or when a person is only hospitalized for short-term observation without longer-term commitment or court-ordered treatment.)8
Is unlawfully in the United States or has been admitted to the US under a nonimmigrant visa
Has been dishonorably discharged from the US Armed Forces
Has renounced their US citizenship
Is subject to an active court order restraining them from harassing, stalking or threatening an intimate partner, their child, or a child of a partner, or from engaging in other conduct that would place an intimate partner in reasonable fear of bodily injury to the partner or child
Has been convicted of a misdemeanor offense of domestic violence9 (For more detailed information on firearm restrictions—and gaps—related to domestic violence, see our summary on Domestic Violence and Firearms).

The fact that laws exist doesn't mean they should exist or should be deemed Constitutional.  Red Flag laws are another example.
Really?  That is again OPINION. 

Of course... everything is opinion.  Even determining Constitutionality comes down to the OPINION of people.

WHY don't link where laws should not exist but do?   

I'm honestly not even sure what you're asking for, here.

And pulling up some ancient law where a woman can't drive on a Sunday is pathetic and a straw man.  

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k, what about seatbelt laws?  How about laws that allow convenience abortion long past the time when there's life.  Laws that limit what size of drink you can buy.  Laws that require you to get a driver's license from the government to drive.  I can go on and on and on.

 People elect legislators and they make laws.  Your opinion carries no water in the least. 

Neither would yours, right?


It's just an opinion.   

Correct.  I covered this above.

The constitution in article ONE designates the legislature of the United States to make all federal law I provided.  That is constitutional.  You can wiggle your way to 10 pages of nonsense which is your way of trying to win an argument if you wish but all you have is opinion.   Not worth much.  I gave you laws which are constitutional.

If not providing opinion, what is the purpose of this forum? Would you like to post articles and disable replies?  BTW, my original point was that both R & D rationalize infringing on our rights.  You've proven me right.  Thanks!
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(11-23-2020, 01:44 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:39 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:37 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Gas is under $2 a gallon in central Florida.  Can we move up the inauguration so that we can ban fracking and drilling in order to get gas up to $4 a gallon?  It sucks having extra spending money.

You do realize new drilling and fracking has basically ground to a halt? And that has nothing to do with any legal actions? You do know that this is entirely a demand-side shock, right? We could open up the Alaskan wilderness tomorrow, and no one would want to build a drill?

What does that have to do with Democrats promising to eliminate fossil fuels even with no reasonable alternatives in sight.

When did they say that?

And in any case, what does your post have to do with it? If they eliminated fossil fuels you'd pay $0 for gas.
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(11-23-2020, 01:48 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:44 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:39 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:37 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Gas is under $2 a gallon in central Florida.  Can we move up the inauguration so that we can ban fracking and drilling in order to get gas up to $4 a gallon?  It sucks having extra spending money.

You do realize new drilling and fracking has basically ground to a halt? And that has nothing to do with any legal actions? You do know that this is entirely a demand-side shock, right? We could open up the Alaskan wilderness tomorrow, and no one would want to build a drill?

What does that have to do with Democrats promising to eliminate fossil fuels even with no reasonable alternatives in sight.

When did they say that?

And in any case, what does your post have to do with it? If they eliminated fossil fuels you'd pay $0 for gas.

Just like socialized medicine means you pay nothing for health care.
"Hightop can reduce an entire message board of men to mudsharks. It's actually pretty funny to watch."


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When did they say that?

- The Green New Deal
- Gavin Newsome/Cali mandating that no fossil fuel cars be sold by 2035
- Promised re-entry into the Paris Accord

All are positional anti-fossil fuel actions.

No longer GroupThink 'woke'.  but it was fun while it lasted.
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(11-23-2020, 01:39 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 01:37 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Gas is under $2 a gallon in central Florida.  Can we move up the inauguration so that we can ban fracking and drilling in order to get gas up to $4 a gallon?  It sucks having extra spending money.

You do realize new drilling and fracking has basically ground to a halt? And that has nothing to do with any legal actions? You do know that this is entirely a demand-side shock, right? We could open up the Alaskan wilderness tomorrow, and no one would want to build a drill?

If you say so, I just miss $4 a gallon gas and want China-Joe to make it happen again!
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President Xi and Iran's Ayatollah are big fans of China-Joe!  They know, as does everyone else, that Joe can be bought and will sell out American interests in order to enrich himself, his family, friends, and other corrupt politicians and government officials.  

China-Joe's regime will hurt Americans, particularly poor and middle-class Americans.  Oh well.  Having a better standard of living is overrated anyway.  

As long as we can watch Dancing with the Stars, that's all that matters.
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Well if you don't like it you can leave.
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(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.
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(11-23-2020, 02:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.
Jacket? No. He'll be conservative when he's older. Younger guys just need to see the results for a while that's all. 
“If a person is not a liberal when he is twenty, he has no heart; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, he has no head.â€
I'd attribute that but it's in question. Maybe John Adams. 
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(11-23-2020, 02:01 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: When did they say that?

- The Green New Deal
- Gavin Newsome/Cali mandating that no fossil fuel cars be sold by 2035
- Promised re-entry into the Paris Accord

All are positional anti-fossil fuel actions.
Well, other than that stuff, when did they say that? Democrats aren't anti-capitalist extremists.  They're moderates, but (way) more importantly, they don't send out mean tweets, so I'll be happy with them destroying my kids' and my grandkids' future
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(11-23-2020, 02:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.

This is amusing for so, so many reasons.

You must've hated the America: Love it or leave it bumper stickers. You must've thought Rick Santorum was fascist when he said it in 2012 or thereabouts. And when Trump said it last year I know you were totally outspoken against his rhetoric.
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(11-23-2020, 02:37 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.
Jacket? No. He'll be conservative when he's older. Younger guys just need to see the results for a while that's all. 
“If a person is not a liberal when he is twenty, he has no heart; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, he has no head.â€
I'd attribute that but it's in question. Maybe John Adams. 

I've become more liberal as I've gotten older.
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(11-23-2020, 02:41 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:37 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.
Jacket? No. He'll be conservative when he's older. Younger guys just need to see the results for a while that's all. 
“If a person is not a liberal when he is twenty, he has no heart; if he is not a conservative when he is forty, he has no head.â€
I'd attribute that but it's in question. Maybe John Adams. 

I've become more liberal as I've gotten older.
Work with me here.
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(11-23-2020, 02:41 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:32 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(11-23-2020, 02:26 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote: Well if you don't like it you can leave.

Typical leftist response.  If you dislike massive government corruption, too bad!  

Why do you support monolithic corruption in government?  Never mind.  I'll answer that for you.  It's because your love, loyalty, and devotion is to the party.  Nothing else matters, not God, not truth, not your fellow man, nothing, only the party matters.  You're fascist that way.

This is amusing for so, so many reasons.

You must've hated the America: Love it or leave it bumper stickers. You must've thought Rick Santorum was fascist when he said it in 2012 or thereabouts. And when Trump said it last year I know you were totally outspoken against his rhetoric.


I've criticized Trump countless times for his many idiotic remarks.  You don't know that because you didn't come out of your hole until AFTER the election.  How courageous of you.  

By the way, Rick Santorum is on your side now.
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