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(11-20-2020, 02:15 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
A signed affidavit under threat of perjury IS legal evidence per our legal system.
Not according to the media and the never Trumpers.
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(11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
When the same people who now require immediate evidence for these massive unprecedented election fraud issues only 4 years ago were saying we must wait for the results of a 2 year special prosecutor witch hunt, concocted entirely with phony information and allegations, before we can give an opinion, some of us tend to think there might be a little bit of bias involved.
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(11-20-2020, 02:34 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
When the same people who now require immediate evidence for these massive unprecedented election fraud issues only 4 years ago were saying we must wait for the results of a 2 year special prosecutor witch hunt, concocted entirely with phony information and allegations before we can give an opinion, some of us tend to think there might be a little bit of bias involved. I didn't say that 4 years ago, so I'm sure you aren't talking about me. yet you are attributing the behavior to me. How odd.
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(11-20-2020, 02:15 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
A signed affidavit under threat of perjury IS legal evidence per our legal system. I don't disagree, assuming they are presented in court at some point. It will be very interesting to see what the legal system does with those, according to the legal team, hundreds of affidavits.
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(11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
We've been warned about the "You're either with us or against us" people.
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Apparently proof is the guilty party admitting to the world their wrong doing and hand delivering their evidence, wrapped in a bow, to the media. Â Otherwise there will be no investigative journalism anywhere.
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(11-20-2020, 02:55 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
We've been warned about the "You're either with us or against us" people.
Matthew 12:30
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“Anyone who isnâ€t with me opposes me, and anyone who isnâ€t working with me is actually working against me.
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(11-18-2020, 01:42 PM)bucklam66 Wrote: Trump campaign only paying for recount of Milwaukee and Dane. If Dominion machines are the problem why not count all 60? Wouldn't the vote changing take place everywhere, siphoning off votes in every county, thus reducing a large number in one place which would raise suspicion?
(11-20-2020, 12:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-20-2020, 12:17 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-20-2020, 12:13 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Gents, if it's your view that legal matters must be litigated on talk shows prior to going to court, then I'll just say that we'll have to agree to disagree.Â
Guys like Adam Schiff swore that he had proof of Russian collusion and he never produced anything and, in the end, there was nothing. What I'm saying is that Tucker was doing his job to press on the issue. To call him an ass for doing it indicates something that you really don't want.
Who cares about Adam Schiff. You would have cheered if AS was pressed hard by the press for proof of his ridiculous claims. Cheered it. And they should have pressed him. No more though than Powell/Giuliani should be pressed for their proof to the serious allegations that they've made publicly. Â
What I'm finding is that there are many people who don't want a fair press and aren't angry that the press isn't neutral....they want a press that is on their side, just like it is on the Democrats side now.
People don't want a neutral court system that adjudicates based on the law, they want a court system that presses their agenda.....
For how long should the media keep allowing people to make such dangerous allegations without evidence? Her press conference, while interesting, was bordering on Alex Jones type stuff.
Is this like the how many licks to the center of a tootsie pop question?  Apparently, the answer is 3 years, as in Russian collusion by Trump...it went on for 3 years with no proof. Multiple investigations, a special council, congress, every liberal news reporter, leaks, still no proof! So, we can drag this out for 3 years and claim Biden is illegitimate and a Chinese asset for 3 years.
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(11-20-2020, 03:17 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:55 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
We've been warned about the "You're either with us or against us" people.
Matthew 12:30
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“Anyone who isnâ€t with me opposes me, and anyone who isnâ€t working with me is actually working against me.
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1) When it comes to Jesus, it truly is a black and white choice. But I wouldn't attribute that to Republicans.
2) Yes, the burden of proof in our society is on the accuser. That's how it works.
3) Yes, I have great confidence that for the next 4 years there will be #resistence and "Biden is a Chinese asset" and such accusations.
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(11-20-2020, 03:02 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Apparently proof is the guilty party admitting to the world their wrong doing and hand delivering their evidence, wrapped in a bow, to the media. Â Otherwise there will be no investigative journalism anywhere.
The problem is that investigative reporters generally present their findings and let the viewer/reader come to conclusions. Trump's team is telling us, among many things, that the election was stolen, there was, without a doubt, mass voter fraud, millions of votes were stolen by the Dominion software and that it was orchestrated by foreign entities. Every single claim they are making as fact is 100% unproven and speculation.
That is dangerous and irresponsible.
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Guy at work here just mentioned something popping on his phone about an FEC big wig calling major fraud in the election. Â SIAP, but I just heard that quick. Â Not sure if anything to it or not. Â Was wondering if anyone else had heard anything
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(11-20-2020, 04:24 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Guy at work here just mentioned something popping on his phone about an FEC big wig calling major fraud in the election.  SIAP, but I just heard that quick.  Not sure if anything to it or not.  Was wondering if anyone else had heard anything you need to google it. the return is fascinating...
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(11-20-2020, 04:44 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (11-20-2020, 04:24 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Guy at work here just mentioned something popping on his phone about an FEC big wig calling major fraud in the election.  SIAP, but I just heard that quick.  Not sure if anything to it or not.  Was wondering if anyone else had heard anything you need to google it. the return is fascinating...
Just did quick. Â The credibility smear in full swing. Â Apparently this is week old news and, shocker, the media has written it off. Â
Ok, back to your regularly scheduled programming
(11-20-2020, 03:17 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:55 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (11-20-2020, 02:12 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Beast, what you call evidence, I call allegations. Evidence has proof with it. Allegations have words.
HT.....you remind me of my FIL's saying "he may not always be right, but he's never in doubt". I was never a 'never Trumper'. Just in your little world of "if you aren't totally on board, you are the enemy" you have no other way to pigeonhole me.
We've been warned about the "You're either with us or against us" people.
Matthew 12:30
New Living Translation
“Anyone who isnâ€t with me opposes me, and anyone who isnâ€t working with me is actually working against me.
Mark 9:38-41
New International Version
Whoever Is Not Against Us Is for Us
38 “Teacher,†said John, “we saw someone driving out demons in your name and we told him to stop, because he was not one of us.â€
39 “Do not stop him,†Jesus said. “For no one who does a miracle in my name can in the next moment say anything bad about me, 40 for whoever is not against us is for us.
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