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Siesta is a very disturbed, sick individual. He deserves our pity, but he should NOT be permitted to post here as he went WAY over the line when he doxxed another member. Zig and the rest of us went out of our way to be gracious to him but, ultimately, he crashed and burned.
My cousin, 54 (my age as well), was a great guy. He and I were best friends growing up. Upon reaching adulthood, we went in different directions as he got married and I moved to greener pastures. We got together many, many times over the years. Unfortunately and, sadly, he developed schizophrenia. He has been hospitalized numerous times. All of his family, including me, are reluctant to let him visit and stay the night because we're concerned for our own well being.
I can sympathize with Siesta just like I sympathize for my cousin.
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HT, I've been banned countless times from innumerable forums because they detest the expression of contrary views. Zigbee's forum is one of the very few that permits the expression of unpopular ideas. Many forums have rules against openly criticizing moderators and ban members for doing so. You and others have bashed Zig countless times and Zig allows you to do so.
I think you're a GREAT poster, but your criticisms of Zig are unwarranted.
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(11-11-2020, 07:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:46 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I believe Zig said all those guys are free to return:  Syncro, BG, Brutus, et, al
That isn't the point.
You said total ban. I took that as a permaban.
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(11-11-2020, 10:30 PM)K9Buck Wrote: HT, I've been banned countless times from innumerable forums because they detest the expression of contrary views. Zigbee's forum is one of the very few that permits the expression of unpopular ideas. Many forums have rules against openly criticizing moderators and ban members for doing so. You and others have bashed Zig countless times and Zig allows you to do so.Â
I think you're a GREAT poster, but your criticisms of Zig are unwarranted.
He does not permit the expression of unpopular ideas unless they meet his approval.
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(11-11-2020, 10:33 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:46 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I believe Zig said all those guys are free to return:  Syncro, BG, Brutus, et, al
That isn't the point.
You said total ban. I took that as a permaban.
My point was that he allows the POS siesta to still have access to the board while others who were actually contributors to the board were banned with no access. It's his board but the truth is still the truth.
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To my knowledge, Zig permits the expression of unpopular ideas, but he does not support members to post pictures of gorillas and then comparing them to black people. But if one wants to engage in a scholarly discussion of how races differ, that is fine.
Zig, please correct me if I am misrepresenting you.
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(11-11-2020, 10:39 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:33 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:46 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I believe Zig said all those guys are free to return:  Syncro, BG, Brutus, et, al
That isn't the point.
You said total ban. I took that as a permaban.
My point was that he allows the POS siesta to still have access to the board while others who were actually contributors to the board were banned with no access. It's his board but the truth is still the truth. I have my reasons letting siesta read..... posting emoticons?  I posted one on you in this thread.  You ok after seeing it ? Think about it.  You and lrrps have same opportunity to start your own site if unhappy here.  I say go for it and see how many join to discuss how bad blacks are and minorities and where you†ll move out of state.  Go to godaddy and buy your domain.  I work hard to have a good site so if anyone isn†t happy?  See ya, bye.
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(11-11-2020, 10:45 PM)K9Buck Wrote: To my knowledge, Zig permits the expression of unpopular ideas, but he does not support members to post pictures of gorillas and then comparing them to black people. But if one wants to engage in a scholarly discussion of how races differ, that is fine.Â
Zig, please correct me if I am misrepresenting you. Correct. Â We have decorum and boundaries.
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(11-11-2020, 10:47 PM)zigbee Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:39 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:33 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:46 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I believe Zig said all those guys are free to return:  Syncro, BG, Brutus, et, al
That isn't the point.
You said total ban. I took that as a permaban.
My point was that he allows the POS siesta to still have access to the board while others who were actually contributors to the board were banned with no access. It's his board but the truth is still the truth. I have my reasons letting siesta read..... posting emoticons?  I posted one on you in this thread.  You ok after seeing it ? Think about it.  You and lrrps have same opportunity to start your own site if unhappy here.  I say go for it and see how many join to discuss how bad blacks are and minorities and where youâ€ll move out of state.  Go to godaddy and buy your domain.  I work hard to have a good site so if anyone isnâ€t happy?  See ya, bye.
As you are well aware, I have told you numerous times that I appreciate the site and your work setting it up. However, good leaders accept constructive criticism and are not sensitive about it. If you want to cater to trolls like siesta, even after they dox your moderator, that is fine. It is your board.
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Let's please bring it all down a notch. I hate it when people leave for whatever reason. Deep breaths. Cooler heads.  All that good stuff.
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(11-11-2020, 10:58 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:47 PM)zigbee Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:39 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (11-11-2020, 10:33 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: (11-11-2020, 07:48 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: That isn't the point.
You said total ban. I took that as a permaban.
My point was that he allows the POS siesta to still have access to the board while others who were actually contributors to the board were banned with no access. It's his board but the truth is still the truth. I have my reasons letting siesta read..... posting emoticons?  I posted one on you in this thread.  You ok after seeing it ? Think about it.  You and lrrps have same opportunity to start your own site if unhappy here.  I say go for it and see how many join to discuss how bad blacks are and minorities and where youâ€ll move out of state.  Go to godaddy and buy your domain.  I work hard to have a good site so if anyone isnâ€t happy?  See ya, bye.
As you are well aware, I have told you numerous times that I appreciate the site and your work setting it up. However, good leaders accept constructive criticism and are not sensitive about it. If you want to cater to trolls like siesta, even after they dox your moderator, that is fine. It is your board. Cater?  He can†t post again!  His dox was deleted in just minutes.  Your buddies allowed back.  One joined yesterday with new name.  This place rocks.
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(11-11-2020, 10:59 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Let's please bring it all down a notch. I hate it when people leave for whatever reason. Deep breaths. Cooler heads.  All that good stuff. That's what I meant about we are eating our own. Â
We are finding faults instead of finding how good this place is. Â
No way can this amount of "adults" agree on everything. We should accept that and leave it as that. If we have any mod questions it should be PM'ed. I've pm'ed Zig a few times on things I didn't agree on. We talked it over and everything was good. Other members didn't need to know what was said, only me and zig.
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