The scariest thing about the delusional left is that...

[Conanthelibrarian]

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This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

[Alabuckeye]

In speaking with a friend recently, I commented to him that I've had people tell me that there is no way I can be a Christian if I vote for Donald Trump, and I've had other people tell me that there is no way I can be a Christian if I don't vote for Donald Trump.

There is a great divide right now, and as alluded to earlier, or in another thread, our society has destroyed one of the great mechanisms of healing that divide. The whole 'melting pot' ideal, the idea that we can coalesce around the American Ideal, whether it was perfectly striven for or not......has been torn down. What else do we have to gather in agreement around? Diversity? Nah, that isn't a central point of healing/agreement. We don't have one.

[P1tchblack]

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This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

[Hightop77]

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This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

[Conanthelibrarian]

In speaking with a friend recently, I commented to him that I've had people tell me that there is no way I can be a Christian if I vote for Donald Trump, and I've had other people tell me that there is no way I can be a Christian if I don't vote for Donald Trump.

There is a great divide right now, and as alluded to earlier, or in another thread, our society has destroyed one of the great mechanisms of healing that divide.  The whole 'melting pot' ideal, the idea that we can coalesce around the American Ideal, whether it was perfectly striven for or not......has been torn down.  What else do we have to gather in agreement around?  Diversity?  Nah, that isn't a central point of healing/agreement.  We don't have one.

I agree.  relativism has destroyed the concept of the "American Ideal", because all cultures are equally good and so just keep the one you have.  And because we dont always live up to that ideal.  But dont throw out the baby with the bathwater.

[Alabuckeye]

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Does this help or hurt my Rep if Pitch agrees with me?  


This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

It hurts your REP that you have nuance of thought.  That is no longer appreciated by most.

[P1tchblack]

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This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

[Hightop77]

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Does this help or hurt my Rep if Pitch agrees with me?  


This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

[P1tchblack]

Does this help or hurt my Rep if Pitch agrees with me?  


This is why at times I think a third party, fiscally and foriegn policy wise that is conservative, but more liberal on social issues, could reduce this mindset.  Give some more moderates in each party an option that might pull the extremes on both sides back or risk losing votes.  As it is now, 80-90% of the country is already locked in and has no where to go politically, because the other side is unpalatable to them.

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

I'm talking about the person, not the policies.

[Hightop77]

I have been preaching all of these same things going back to 2016. I voted for Gary Johnson with the hopes that a third party candidate could get to 5% of the vote and qualify for federal money for presidential elections for the Libertarian Party . If having Trump, Hillary and Biden as your options doesn't get people to look at a 3rd party, I don't know if it ever will.

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

I'm talking about the person, not the policies.

Not sure if serious.

[P1tchblack]

That anyone would actually believe Gary Johnson is a better option than Donald Trump for leading the country is beyond bizarre.

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

I'm talking about the person, not the policies.

Not sure if serious.

100%.  Again, before he was elected and actually did good things, he was an unprofessional, childish blowhard of a candidate who proposed idiotic things like jail time for burning the flag.

[Hightop77]

Trump has done plenty of good things as President.  To believe that Trump the CANDIDATE was in any way better, much less significantly better, than Gary Johnson is beyond, beyond bizarre.

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

I'm talking about the person, not the policies.

Not sure if serious.

100%.  Again, before he was elected and actually did good things, he was an unprofessional, childish blowhard of a candidate who proposed idiotic things like jail time for burning the flag.

No.  He was a candidate that was actually honest with the American people unlike his predecessors like the Bush family that sold us down the river.  America First was and is a legitimate platform.

[davebucknut]

I expect if Biden wins, the other side will ramp up the “reporting”. Iâ€d love to see all cable news removed from prime time.


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Daytime abc, CBS, nbc, cnn, msnbc, NY times, wapo, and alike will lie, twist, spin, deflect, and cover up in the daytime too.

I'm still waiting for them to report on the Biden laptop and emails after a week.

Joke!

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[davebucknut]

I expect if Biden wins, the other side will ramp up the “reporting”. Iâ€d love to see all cable news removed from prime time. 


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Of course.  When Obama was President, Fox spent 8 years portraying him as being as bad as possible. When Trump was Pres, CNN/MSNBC did it.  If Biden wins, it'll be Fox's turn again. The priority isn't news; it's keeping the attention of your core audience.

That isn't true at all.  After Obama won, the people on Fox News were largely accepting and gracious and advised we must give Obama every opportunity.  The Left on the other hand, was trying to remove Trump before he even took office.

I confess, I LOL'd....

Wrong!

Obama actually had bad and radical ideas and plans. He stole the 60th senate seat with voter fraud, and generally any criticism he ever received from the right is child's play compared to what Trump has endured.

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[P1tchblack]

Seriously?  What did candidate Trump say or do that was strange or not reasonable or not rational considering his primary issues were protecting the border from illegal immigrants, protecting American interests and creating a more friendly business climate.  Johnson on the other hand had two primary issues, drug legalization and open borders, neither of which is sane or good for the country.

I'm talking about the person, not the policies.

Not sure if serious.

100%.  Again, before he was elected and actually did good things, he was an unprofessional, childish blowhard of a candidate who proposed idiotic things like jail time for burning the flag.

No.  He was a candidate that was actually honest with the American people unlike his predecessors like the Bush family that sold us down the river.  America First was and is a legitimate platform.

The fact that he was honest is not contrary to what I said above.  His unfiltered honesty is great, except when he quite literally would say something today and the backtrack tomorrow.  That hasn't stopped since he became president.  He was still childish, unprofessional and a blowhard.  As a candidate he was terrible - worst ever with Hillary a close second.

in fact, being his press secretary, because he said/says so much stupid sh!t, is clearly an unwanted job.