Trump v Biden Debates (second poll for second debate VOTE!)

[unc4corners]

The biggest moment was near the end. Biden admitted he would “transition” away from oil. That will go over big in a few states.

Those words may cost him this election.
It's on the same level as Deplorables as far as damage to him at this point.

[BigDroppa]

Biden called Chinas President Xi a thug. Lumping him w Kim Jon. He didnâ€t mean it about Xi , but he said it

[unc4corners]

Trump scored points about Obama building the cages.
He also scored big on hammering Biden about his 8 years as VP and doing nothing about what he says he'll do if elected.

[P1tchblack]

The biggest moment was near the end. Biden admitted he would “transition” away from oil. That will go over big in a few states.

That was his worst moment.  Even I cringed when the mod clarified.

[BigDroppa]

Trump scored points because the debate commission had strict rules about interruptions which made Biden exposed and he had to state some positions. Trump was providing him cover on the last debate. He just had to let Joe talk.

I still personally think people like the image of Trump/Pence better than Biden/Harris on the world stage when negotiating with other countries. Trump has the track record of setting terms straight and more advantageous to the US.

Plus he has more gravitas. Trump is the most well known person on the planet. King Trump.

[P1tchblack]

I would prefer Trump wins, but he looked like a flailing fool tonight.  He gave no vision for the future.  He avoided many questions and basically tried to re-create 2016.  Problem is that he's the incumbent president.

Biden will win.  Write it down.


I hope I'm wrong.

As the incumbent, he can only say what he has done



and he gave some proposals especially on health care. Look, what he has been through for 3 1/2 years he really couldn't get anything done and that not counting all of the times when he passed an executive order it was met usually with a law suit.

He dodged many questions, including the last one when he had a chance to make a true statement.

His schtick, I believe, has gotten old.

[Beastdog]

The President was OUTSTANDING last night. And P!tchblack is an idiot. That's all.

[Beastdog]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...nal-debate

[ScarletHayes]

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opini...nal-debate

Another case of they walk among us.  Staring down the barrel at fundamental transformation and these undecided folk just want Trump to act presidential.  Thatâ€s on what theyâ€re basing their vote.  Just...  WOW.  Ok it looks like they got their wish last night.  

The American voter is definitely a hoot to behold.  Cities burning, talk of ending fracking, court packing, ending the filibuster, adding states, etc, etc, etc....  “...but I just want him to act presidential...”  

Edit: apparently the language filter thinks frack-ing is a bad word

[Beastdog]

Specifically in the debate, on the COVID discussion, which is clearly Trump's weakest point (and I think the US numbers being what they are is mostly a function of our "freedom culture" more than anything Trump did or didn't do) he did quite well and probably at least held him to a draw.

On all other issues, he crushed him. I am disappointed he didn't bring up the court packing issue and didn't hammer him more on the corruption topic. He should have asked him to specifically state if he knows this Bobulinski dude and cared to comment on his press conference.

[Alabuckeye]

Beast, I think you are spot on with the Covid comment, with the explanation on the US numbers. Now, it takes a little thought to get to that point, but I think you nailed it.

[ScarletHayes]

If a Dem were in the WH Covid would have essentially been over and done with in May or June.  

On that note, this might end up being my best birthday ever, as the drama of daily reports will come to an end on the 4th.  They might pretend for another week or two just out of appearances, but that will mostly be that.  No more daily tallies of new cases that mean almost nothing in the general scheme of things.  No more mask Karens, etc, etc, etc...  The jig will mercifully be up.  THANK YOOOOUUUUUU.  

Outside of vaccine news, we're mostly done here.     

[Hightop77]

The biggest moment was near the end. Biden admitted he would “transition” away from oil. That will go over big in a few states.

Those words may cost him this election.
It's on the same level as Deplorables as far as damage to him at this point.

Imagine if Biden had not been in hiding the last several months and had been on the campaign trail reciting even more of the far Left AOC agenda?  The media would not be able to protect him.

[3rdgensooner]

The US did about the same as most western Democracies with regards to COVID. Maybe a little better if you take out the idiots in the NE like Cuomo, Murphy, and Di Blasio. At this point I'd give Trump a solid B on Covid. I can't give him an A because he's such an idiot (Hydroxychloroquine and other stupidities and undermining advisors) but I want to because of Operation Warp Speed. No one has modeled the best way to approach this situation overall. Right now the Dems are the problem. They're overreaching on mitigation measures and turned the vaccine race political and as such will delay the roll out unnecessarily killing thousands. Biden would've likely handled the situation badly. The guy truly is a dunce. The whole country would likely have goe the way of New York, worst death rate and worst economic calamity. Nice combo there Cuomo. 
The Obama administration completely fumbled the Swine Flu situation. But then caught a break when it turned out to be a dud.

[3rdgensooner]

Biden and Harris being under wraps has been a boon for them. The Clinton campaign never seemed to understand that the more people saw and heard of her the more they despised her. The Biden/Harris campaign and their MSM P.R. department seem to get that the less they are seen and heard the better it is for them. Hard to control the message when people can see and hear what a couple of dimwitted clowns they are.