Official Nuthouse Retirement Relocation Discussion Thread

[Hightop77]

Louisville was never great.

Reminds me of the new Lefty talking point, America was never great.

[somenole]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

[somenole]

Except, louisville was not.

[3rdgensooner]

Policing in those cities will certainly change. Fact of life. Things change.

Obama is gone. You attack the symptom without realizing the cause. Liberalism is content to slowly choke your way of life out. Youâ€ll have to move to Montana (which is beautiful if not backwoods), Wyoming, Idaho, etc. to avoid the liberals. Beats Chile (although Iâ€ve never been).

Things change for sure. For better or worse. This will be worse for everyone. Including blacks and other minorities. Some criminals might like it but that's about it. And the liberal policies were/are local nothing to do with Obama. Phoenix was a high crime city until, wait for it, policing was increased. Now we're seeing another increase as well as degradation of quality of life issues as governance in recent years has turned liberal. If it continues we'll look more and more like LA, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco. In case you were wondering that is bad, really really bad. 
Prescott or the outer edges of the metro. Maybe Cave Creek.

[TcSoup]

Except, louisville was not.

When was the last time you stepped foot in Louisville. ? Just curious

[Hightop77]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

[somenole]

Yeah, gun sales were surely dampened 2008-2016. Right?  Oh no, they werenâ€t.

You like low taxes but you also apparently like profligate spending. I mean you never questioned Trumps spending. Congratulations on your economic unsoundness. And if you make over $250,000 a year congratulations on that too. Otherwise, how are you going to reconcile the spending with the revenue.

Like I said, you are free to move to Wyoming and not wear a mask but civilization has requirements. No shitting in the streets, no ***** with the neighbors and no inflicting your germs on the neighbors, either. The horror of wearing a mask?  You wouldnâ€t last 5 minutes as a minority in America if thatâ€s the level of infringement that bothers you.

Oh please. Everything you just wrote was pure fallacy.

1- he absolutely tried to ban certain types of guns and wanted to implement all sorts of infringements. Just because he wasn't sucessful doesn't mean that it wasn't his goal not the goal of the dnc.

2- masks don't work unless everyone uses them properly and has the right kind of mask, otherwise they end up being worse than not wearing one at all. Besides whenever it suits the dnc they don't care about covis at all. Congratulations the plandemic has worked out to perfection so far.

3- every night on TV, tik to, Facebook etc... I see "minorities" literally getting away with murder, terrorism, and felonious theft and 90% of them get away Scott free.

BTW my minority wife think that you people are full of crap.

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Except, louisville was not.

When was the last time you stepped foot in Louisville. ? Just curious

Last year. 3rd visit in the last 6 years. Before that, twice in 1997-98. Before that, one time in 1986. Before that 1977.

[somenole]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

Obviously, since those laws havenâ€t been fully struck down there is some disagreement in the US of A. Same argument that is always made: what does the first part (well regulated militia) mean? We can go round and round and round. Nothing will change. Biden isnâ€t a far left loon that will take your guns. Heâ€s a middle of the road dem. You have to worry about some of the younger dem pols doing that in 20 years.

[somenole]

Oh, I donâ€t live in NYC, too. Florida doesnâ€t have that particular issue.

[somenole]

Policing in those cities will certainly change. Fact of life. Things change.

Obama is gone. You attack the symptom without realizing the cause. Liberalism is content to slowly choke your way of life out. Youâ€ll have to move to Montana (which is beautiful if not backwoods), Wyoming, Idaho, etc. to avoid the liberals. Beats Chile (although Iâ€ve never been).

Things change for sure. For better or worse. This will be worse for everyone. Including blacks and other minorities. Some criminals might like it but that's about it. And the liberal policies were/are local nothing to do with Obama. Phoenix was a high crime city until, wait for it, policing was increased. Now we're seeing another increase as well as degradation of quality of life issues as governance in recent years has turned liberal. If it continues we'll look more and more like LA, Portland, Seattle, and San Francisco. In case you were wondering that is bad, really really bad. 
Prescott or the outer edges of the metro. Maybe Cave Creek.

I lived in Phoenix in 1979 for five months. I saw all kinds of crazy *****. Some good things, too. Way back when they had some issues. Same as now, poor vs not poor, poor vs poor. Mostly just problems with the poor.

[3rdgensooner]

Crime was going up like a lot of places but they slowed it down more than most places although the peak was early 90s like everywhere. Mostly done with increased policing and juvenile services. That's just part of it. Increased gummint costs and regulation with liberal governance stifles business, especially small business, and reduces housing availability and response to the market increasing costs. And the next thing you know there is a widening gap of have and have nots and a lack of affordability along with lack of livability. The biggest income disparities are in big liberal cities and the gap was worsened under Obama. That is predictable. I want to leave before it becomes a bigger problem. Phoenix will become a city to flee instead of a city to flee to from liberal cites like it has been.

[Hightop77]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

Obviously, since those laws havenâ€t been fully struck down there is some disagreement in the US of A. Same argument that is always made: what does the first part (well regulated militia) mean? We can go round and round and round. Nothing will change. Biden isnâ€t a far left loon that will take your guns. Heâ€s a middle of the road dem. You have to worry about some of the younger dem pols doing that in 20 years.

See?  You are willing to violate the clear wording of the Constitution with regard to the Second Amendment, which was arguably one of the most important rights to the Founders, but for invented rights like abortion and same sex marriage, you believe those are iron clad across the board that states can't touch.  That is the problem with the country and how the Left has rendered the Constitution meaningless.  They did the same thing with religious freedom.

[davebucknut]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

Obviously, since those laws havenâ€t been fully struck down there is some disagreement in the US of A. Same argument that is always made: what does the first part (well regulated militia) mean? We can go round and round and round. Nothing will change. Biden isnâ€t a far left loon that will take your guns. Heâ€s a middle of the road dem. You have to worry about some of the younger dem pols doing that in 20 years.

See?  You are willing to violate the clear wording of the Constitution with regard to the Second Amendment, which was arguably one of the most important rights to the Founders, but for invented rights like abortion and same sex marriage, you believe those are iron clad across the board that states can't touch.  That is the problem with the country and how the Left has rendered the Constitution meaningless.  They did the same thing with religious freedom.

Exactly, they go out of their way to twist and neuter the bill of rights, but if you aren't willing pay for an abortion up until the day of birth for every woman on planet earth,you're a tyrant

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[somenole]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

Obviously, since those laws havenâ€t been fully struck down there is some disagreement in the US of A. Same argument that is always made: what does the first part (well regulated militia) mean? We can go round and round and round. Nothing will change. Biden isnâ€t a far left loon that will take your guns. Heâ€s a middle of the road dem. You have to worry about some of the younger dem pols doing that in 20 years.

See?  You are willing to violate the clear wording of the Constitution with regard to the Second Amendment, which was arguably one of the most important rights to the Founders, but for invented rights like abortion and same sex marriage, you believe those are iron clad across the board that states can't touch.  That is the problem with the country and how the Left has rendered the Constitution meaningless.  They did the same thing with religious freedom.

Me?  Nope. Locales?  Sure. Are open carry restrictions an infringement?  4 states outright ban open carry and more restrict it according to local custom. Do you bitch about that, too. Many of those states are not traditionally “liberal”. 

As for those other “rights” and my feelings, youâ€re either wrong or a liar as Iâ€ve never stated a position on either. I donâ€t care what other people do with their bodies, so again I would prefer the government stay out of those personal decisions but I donâ€t advocate for either.

[Hightop77]

I think thereâ€s an outright prohibition against slavery. 13th Amendment. So thatâ€s a negative. Thereâ€s no outright ban on guns like that. You can own guns, you just canâ€t do anything you want with that gun. You might believe that an infringement but others disagree with you, obviously.

What does shall not be infringed mean to you?  Does that mean some Lefty politicians in NYC can tell you that you can't buy a firearm without first jumping through dozens of hoops, each step of which must be approved by a government bureaucrat?

Obviously, since those laws havenâ€t been fully struck down there is some disagreement in the US of A. Same argument that is always made: what does the first part (well regulated militia) mean? We can go round and round and round. Nothing will change. Biden isnâ€t a far left loon that will take your guns. Heâ€s a middle of the road dem. You have to worry about some of the younger dem pols doing that in 20 years.

See?  You are willing to violate the clear wording of the Constitution with regard to the Second Amendment, which was arguably one of the most important rights to the Founders, but for invented rights like abortion and same sex marriage, you believe those are iron clad across the board that states can't touch.  That is the problem with the country and how the Left has rendered the Constitution meaningless.  They did the same thing with religious freedom.

Me?  Nope. Locales?  Sure. Are open carry restrictions an infringement?  4 states outright ban open carry and more restrict it according to local custom. Do you bitch about that, too. Many of those states are not traditionally “liberal”. 

As for those other “rights” and my feelings, youâ€re either wrong or a liar as Iâ€ve never stated a position on either. I donâ€t care what other people do with their bodies, so again I would prefer the government stay out of those personal decisions but I donâ€t advocate for either.

Why not take the same approach for the 2nd Amendment that we do with the 13th?  The 13th completely bans slavery in all forms and we don't try and say otherwise by allowing a little bit of slavery here and there.  The 2A should mean the same thing in NYC that it does in Kentucky with no infringement.  We should not have to pass laws allowing either open carry or concealed carry since those should be considered unalienable rights.  Of course, the Left would have a meltdown over that.