The American church....

[P1tchblack]

Right, the guy is who doesn't even grasp the concept of denominations has done some in depth study on the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Lol.

Again, you have no clue what you're talking about, so stop pretending that you do. You're only embarrassing yourself.

[P1tchblack]

Oh yeah. Absolute humiliation. I will have to wear a brown bag over my head for the rest of my days.

It is fine to have learnt of that fact from South Park. Nothing to be ashamed of. Everything I know about JWs, I learned in cartoon form. It is not as though I am claiming it to be erroneous.

Jackson Co Missouri. Specifically Independence.

you would make a great politician. You've seem to believe that repeating a lie makes it the truth.

[P1tchblack]

We are taking this all the way to the Hamptons are we? Suit yourself.

When we get there will there be horses named Snoopy and Prickly Pete?

Sure.  I enjoy exposing liars that stick by their lies.  I'll keep it going as long as needed.

[ScarletHayes]

We are taking this all the way to the Hamptons are we? Suit yourself.

When we get there will there be horses named Snoopy and Prickly Pete?

Lol.  Nicely done.  

[lrrps21]

Oh if you want to pretend that you read the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith from cover to cover, I will be more than happy to play along. It will be more fun this way. I tried to give you an out, but you elected to double down instead.

Did you also familiarize yourself with the Journal of Discourses? Which was your favorite volume?

you would make a great politician. You've seem to believe that repeating a lie makes it the truth.

This comment by p!tch is the funniest yet.

[3rdgensooner]

Right, the guy is who doesn't even grasp the concept of denominations has done some in depth study on the teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith. Lol.

The "prophet". Is that what we're calling batchit crazy charlatans these days?

[3rdgensooner]

Oh if you want to pretend that you read the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith from cover to cover, I will be more than happy to play along. It will be more fun this way. I tried to give you an out, but you elected to double down instead.

Did you also familiarize yourself with the Journal of Discourses? Which was your favorite volume?

I read the Book of Mormon in my younger days. Batchit crazy stuff. And incredibly dumb , comically so. I'm always amazed otherwise normal people in the LDS don't just shake their heads and laugh and walk away.

[P1tchblack]

Oh if you want to pretend that you read the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith from cover to cover, I will be more than happy to play along. It will be more fun this way. I tried to give you an out, but you elected to double down instead.

Did you also familiarize yourself with the Journal of Discourses? Which was your favorite volume?

Do you think that the only ways to familiarize yourself with a religion is to watch South Park or read that religions official doctrine from cover to cover?

[Erhino]

Whether we talk about this case, Catholics, USA gymnastics, Boy Scouts, or other pedo and abuse cases the reality is it is on the individual perps until the organizations donâ€t do anything or cover it up.

The American Church does a tremendous amount of good, yet I canâ€t help thinking the system is set up for abuse. No taxes, no accountability, and perceived trustworthiness seems to lend itself to abuse.

Maybe Franklin Graham is honorable, but dual salaries and 7 figure incomes for the work of his dad reminds me of this case. He might not be abusing kids, but he is abusing the idea of serving God. He is using God for personal gain.

The reality is that Church is big business, without the checks and balances. At least Businesses handle this with a firing of the boss. Pope still has a job.

[lrrps21]

Whether we talk about this case, Catholics, USA gymnastics, Boy Scouts, or other pedo and abuse cases the reality is it is on the individual perps until the organizations donâ€t do anything or cover it up.

The American Church does a tremendous amount of good, yet I canâ€t help thinking the system is set up for abuse. No taxes, no accountability, and perceived trustworthiness seems to lend itself to abuse.

Maybe Franklin Graham is honorable, but dual salaries and 7 figure incomes for the work of his dad reminds me of this case. He might not be abusing kids, but he is abusing the idea of serving God. He is using God for personal gain.

The reality is that Church is big business, without the checks and balances. At least Businesses handle this with a firing of the boss. Pope still has a job.

This^^^

[Alabuckeye]

God's law states that without the shedding of blood, there is no remission of sins. Cain sacrificed what he felt like sacrificing, not what God commanded. And then was jealous when he was not blessed, but Abel was. Abel was obedient, and Cain was jealous.

[P1tchblack]

Oh if you want to pretend that you read the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith from cover to cover, I will be more than happy to play along. It will be more fun this way. I tried to give you an out, but you elected to double down instead.

Did you also familiarize yourself with the Journal of Discourses? Which was your favorite volume?

Do you think that the only ways to familiarize yourself with a religion is to watch South Park or read that religions official doctrine from cover to cover?

The sermon books aren't "official doctrine" 

Of course you knew that, having spent so much time familiarizing yourself with the religion.

So you randomly read about the story of Adam-Ondi-Ahman from some mysterious non-South Park related source? Well that's convenient. I guess I can't quiz you on anything outside of that story specifically. 

So what was Cain supposed to sacrifice, what did he sacrifice instead, and who put him up to it? Surely you can recall this key detail, as you were able to retain a far less significant one.

Or, if you're interested in reality (clearly debatable)....

I moved from Ohio to Arizona when I was 9 or 10. There were no Mormon churches in Ohio at that time. At least not in my small town.  The church that we went to in Arizona had a group called concerned Christians which was a group that studied the beliefs of Mormonism and expressed their concern, given that they consider themselves to be Christian. Around that same time, I did a lot of reading about Mormonism and have dunmore periodically over the years.

a very good friend of mine is an ex Mormon. His dad was a professor at BYU. I've discussed Mormon beliefs with him often.

So, once again, stop making ***** up, as though you know something when you don't.

[lrrps21]

p!tch - where did you attend church in Ohio and AZ?

[P1tchblack]

p!tch - where did you attend church in Ohio and AZ?

Both were small, traditional Lutheran Churches.

[lrrps21]

p!tch - where did you attend church in Ohio and AZ?

Both were small, traditional Lutheran Churches.

Thanks