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cincydawgClimate Change Article
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https://www.npr.org/2019/06/18/724343789...ate-change

"My guess is that when our successors look back at Statistical Reviews from around this period, they will observe a world in which there was growing societal awareness and demands for urgent action on climate change, but where the actual energy data continued to move stubbornly in the wrong direction," wrote Spencer Dale, BP's chief economist in a review of the findings.

He described it as "a growing mismatch between hopes and reality."
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#2
I believe man's effect is minimal. When China, India, Russia, etc. do something substantive, get back to me.

We have been reducing greenhouse gases, without putting millions out of work and ruining our economy. Probably to a greater extent than any other country.
DANGEROUS WHEN PROVOKED
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(06-18-2019, 05:48 PM)cincydawg Wrote: https://www.npr.org/2019/06/18/724343789...ate-change

"My guess is that when our successors look back at Statistical Reviews from around this period, they will observe a world in which there was growing societal awareness and demands for urgent action on climate change, but where the actual energy data continued to move stubbornly in the wrong direction," wrote Spencer Dale, BP's chief economist in a review of the findings.

He described it as "a growing mismatch between hopes and reality."


And yet all we hear about is this mythical "consensus."  

All the science aside, the idea that a brand new tax is somehow going to save the earth is so laughably absurd that I can't even think of a face palm gif that would come close to doing it justice.  Ya wanna tax us back into the stone age?  Ya think that's gonna "save" the planet?  Ayyyyye...  


When wind, solar, banana peels and gummy bears are cost feasible and actually fuel our economy, hey...  I'll be right on board alongside ya.  Until then I'll live in adult world where cars need gasoline to run, etc...
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I wonder when the "Deniers" would start to agree our climate is warming (if indeed it is). The projections from the models really only become noticeable in decades, meaning we'd have a climate where it was clearly getting warmer, milder winters by a few degrees and hotter summers. Some coastal areas might be lost.

But the projections are perhaps a 1 meter rise in sea level (3.3 feet) by 2100 (some of which has already happened, perhaps). So, sea level change over ten years is not going to be observable really by unaided humans. Temperature increases are projected at 2-7°C, the worst case would be really really bad, but 2°C over a century is pretty modest (about 5°F, or half a degree per decade).

So despite all the drama in the "news", this is a slow moving event (assuming the models are close). We can easily hit 2030 or 2040 and folks will be saying "I told you so" if the Arctic ice cap is still intact year round (which is very possible) and nobody really notices warming.

Maybe by 2050 folks will have to agree our climate is warming some, even if they disagree about the why. Maybe.
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