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(07-15-2019, 12:27 PM)BoyGenius Wrote: (07-15-2019, 11:38 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: (07-15-2019, 11:09 AM)BoyGenius Wrote: (07-15-2019, 11:01 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: God can intervene, if he cared to, whether we have free will or not.Â
God doesn't intervene? How can something that doesn't exist intervene?
God exists. Now, carry on with your hatred for Christians elsewhere. I don't hate Christians. I don't even hate New Agers or muslims. I hate their beliefs and the negative impact of superstition and ignorance on the world. There is no god thingy, the concept is absurd.
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Which is a bigger negative impact.....superstition and ignorance......or people living like there is no consequence to wrong and just being in it for themselves? I mean, if godless people were an example of how things should be done, I sure haven't seen it. I've seen Godly people that absolutely are an example......
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I haven't seen that believing in any religion's teaching has any effect whatsoever on those things. None.
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I've known plenty of nonbelievers who were fine people, in my opinion, and raised moral kids etc.
I don't know that being moral ONLY because you think it gains you Salvation is really that moral.
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(07-15-2019, 01:07 PM)cincydawg Wrote: By "we", you mean Adam and Eve, ostensibly our parents of a sort.
You must not bow down to them or worship them, for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God who will not tolerate your affection for any other gods. I lay the sins of the parents upon their children; the entire family is affected—even children in the third and fourth generations of those who reject me.
Look up the Adam-God doctrine.
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(07-15-2019, 01:28 PM)cincydawg Wrote: I've known plenty of nonbelievers who were fine people, in my opinion, and raised moral kids etc.
I don't know that being moral ONLY because you think it gains you Salvation is really that moral.
1) so have I
2) literally noone has made that an argument point.
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(07-15-2019, 01:30 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (07-15-2019, 01:28 PM)cincydawg Wrote: I've known plenty of nonbelievers who were fine people, in my opinion, and raised moral kids etc.
I don't know that being moral ONLY because you think it gains you Salvation is really that moral.
1) so have I
2) literally noone has made that an argument point.
Yeah, you don't earn your salvation. Â Gross misrepresentation and/or misunderstanding
(07-15-2019, 01:22 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Which is a bigger negative impact.....superstition and ignorance......or people living like there is no consequence to wrong and just being in it for themselves? I mean, if godless people were an example of how things should be done, I sure haven't seen it. I've seen Godly people that absolutely are an example......
Yah, religion is swell....
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Yeah because religion is the only motivator for people to do insane stuff. Â Not sure if serious...
(07-15-2019, 02:30 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Yeah because religion is the only motivator for people to do insane stuff. Â Not sure if serious... Well, since I never said that religion was the only reason for people to do Insane stuff...
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(07-15-2019, 02:23 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: (07-15-2019, 01:22 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: Which is a bigger negative impact.....superstition and ignorance......or people living like there is no consequence to wrong and just being in it for themselves? I mean, if godless people were an example of how things should be done, I sure haven't seen it. I've seen Godly people that absolutely are an example......
Yah, religion is swell....
gimme a break. Â at some point use some of brainpower....
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Pretending that all religion is just as toxic as Islam isn't going to gain you any credibility. At least not around her. Zzl, perhaps.
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