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K9BuckBanning Tik Tok is like banning the BBC
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(01-08-2025, 09:45 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(01-08-2025, 09:41 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote:
(01-08-2025, 08:35 AM)P1tchB7ack Wrote: To clarify, nobody is advocating banning TikTok.  People are advocating banning Chinese Communist owned TikTok.
Almost true. I'm advocating banning dum dum and instadum until people have some manners in public.

I’m advocating public flogging for public disorder offenses, like in Singapore. No fine, no probation, just take your 5 lashes and go. No more than one flogging every 6 weeks for repeat offenders. Oh, and your device goes in the grinder if you coordinated your offense on social media.

That would be fun!
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#47
(01-08-2025, 09:41 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(01-08-2025, 08:28 AM)lrrps21 Wrote: I often wondered if tik tok was the same in the US and in Asia. It's not. The Chinese have Douyin with educational type content while the West gets the burfle we see all over social media.

One inspires young people to become engineers, physicists, physicians and the other encourages people to eat laundry soap pods.

Does China have Khan Academy? That is the academic YouTube.

Khan Academy is viewable in China.
The America, and the American Military, that you once knew is gone.
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#48
That some of you think it's ok for the GOVERNMENT to prohibit you from viewing foreign media is staggering to me. That's what North Korea does. Our corrupt government is banning TikTok because they believe it is a threat to their grip on power.

https://youtu.be/KdZKb63rkUA?si=qsUrUj2vzYjJEb3V
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#49
I thought the main beef was that China was further dumbing down and spying on Americans
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#50
(01-12-2025, 09:53 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I thought the main beef was that China was further dumbing down and spying on Americans

No, that's the Washington Establishment. Just look at their public schools and their spying operations through Google and Meta.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#51
(01-12-2025, 09:53 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I thought the main beef was that China was further dumbing down and spying on Americans

There are concerns about the app and it stealing data off your devices. There are concerns about the CCP’s involvement in it.  

I share those concerns, just like I have concerns about the Chinese buying up farm land

No longer GroupThink 'woke', but it was fun while it lasted.
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#52
(01-12-2025, 03:50 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 09:53 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I thought the main beef was that China was further dumbing down and spying on Americans

There are concerns about the app and it stealing data off your devices. There are concerns about the CCP’s involvement in it.  

I share those concerns, just like I have concerns about the Chinese buying up farm land

Your government masters were paying TikTok influencers to post their propaganda. It didn't work and so they want it banned. If TikTok was full of people singing the praises of your government masters we wouldn't be having this conversation. 

Seeing a viral pro-Biden TikTok? A PAC might have paid for it. - POLITICO

 https://search.app/QdB1KHPaHkgFUXio8
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#53
Bama, your government masters are supremely indifferent to Chinese espionage. Half of Washington works for them. There are undoubtedly THOUSANDS of Chinese nationals in the country right now stealing incredibly valuable data and your masters do nothing. 

Chinese nationals have snuck onto sensitive US sites at least 100 times: report https://search.app/M8GAayTVYmuFyioCA
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#54
(01-12-2025, 09:45 AM)K9Buck Wrote: That some of you think it's ok for the GOVERNMENT to prohibit you from viewing foreign media is staggering to me. That's what North Korea does. Our corrupt government is banning TikTok because they believe it is a threat to their grip on power.

https://youtu.be/KdZKb63rkUA?si=qsUrUj2vzYjJEb3V

If it was just a free speech issue,  I wouldn't support banning TikTok.  Twitter is as, if not more, dangerous than TikTok and I would never support banning it.

The part of banning TikTok that I support is that it gives China a direct line into a lot of personal information: email, phone #, location, address, etc.
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(01-13-2025, 08:06 AM)P1tchB7ack Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 09:45 AM)K9Buck Wrote: That some of you think it's ok for the GOVERNMENT to prohibit you from viewing foreign media is staggering to me. That's what North Korea does. Our corrupt government is banning TikTok because they believe it is a threat to their grip on power.

https://youtu.be/KdZKb63rkUA?si=qsUrUj2vzYjJEb3V

If it was just a free speech issue,  I wouldn't support banning TikTok.  Twitter is as, if not more, dangerous than TikTok and I would never support banning it.

The part of banning TikTok that I support is that it gives China a direct line into a lot of personal information: email, phone #, location, address, etc.

China isn't interested in the data of most Americans. Those with data of significant value should not have most apps on the device they use for business. Instead they should use a device devoid of such data. With that said, the government should not have the power to dictate that we cannot view foreign media sources.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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#56
(01-13-2025, 08:44 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(01-13-2025, 08:06 AM)P1tchB7ack Wrote:
(01-12-2025, 09:45 AM)K9Buck Wrote: That some of you think it's ok for the GOVERNMENT to prohibit you from viewing foreign media is staggering to me. That's what North Korea does. Our corrupt government is banning TikTok because they believe it is a threat to their grip on power.

https://youtu.be/KdZKb63rkUA?si=qsUrUj2vzYjJEb3V

If it was just a free speech issue,  I wouldn't support banning TikTok.  Twitter is as, if not more, dangerous than TikTok and I would never support banning it.

The part of banning TikTok that I support is that it gives China a direct line into a lot of personal information: email, phone #, location, address, etc.

China isn't interested in the data of most Americans.

Based on what?  Countries who wish to harm you will find a way to use most any information they can get their hands on.

Those with data of significant value should not have most apps on the device they use for business. Instead they should use a device devoid of such data.

"Should".

With that said, the government should not have the power to dictate that we cannot view foreign media sources.

Despite the fact that there may be occasional news information, TikTok isn't a media source. 
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#57
If TikTok has any ties whatsoever to the Chinese government, then you know, the Chinese government is up to no good.  Ban TikTok in that case.
Quote:Hard times make hard men.
Hard men make easy times. 
Easy times make soft men. 
Soft men make hard times.
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#58
I posted the direct ties a couple pages ago. They are deeply interlinked with the CCP.

No longer GroupThink 'woke', but it was fun while it lasted.
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#59
(01-13-2025, 11:26 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I posted the direct ties a couple pages ago. They are deeply interlinked with the CCP.

I didn't read the entire thread. Direct ties? Then eff 'em. That's a dangerous azz enemy country. I disagree with the so called "free speech " argument here.
Quote:Hard times make hard men.
Hard men make easy times. 
Easy times make soft men. 
Soft men make hard times.
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#60
(01-13-2025, 11:26 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I posted the direct ties a couple pages ago. They are deeply interlinked with the CCP.

The CCP can interlink itself with any business it wants.  That's how it works in China.  There's clearly an incentive for the CCP to do so with TikTok.
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