Trump’s cases

[P1tchB7ack]

"Deranged"  Jack Smith goes down!!!

He didn't "go down".  He's following standard DOJ policy.

Once Trump won the presidential election, that meant that his two federal criminal cases (this one and the classified documents case) would eventually go away, whether by lawyers in the current Justice Department or the next one moving to dismiss, or Trump potentially attempting to pardon himself. The DOJ also has a policy against charging and prosecuting sitting presidents. Smith already was reportedly planning on resigning before Trump, who vowed to fire Smith, took office.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-hou...rcna181669

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

[zigbee]

He didn't "go down".  He's following standard DOJ policy.

Once Trump won the presidential election, that meant that his two federal criminal cases (this one and the classified documents case) would eventually go away, whether by lawyers in the current Justice Department or the next one moving to dismiss, or Trump potentially attempting to pardon himself. The DOJ also has a policy against charging and prosecuting sitting presidents. Smith already was reportedly planning on resigning before Trump, who vowed to fire Smith, took office.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-hou...rcna181669

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

Yes…why the board big experts on everything cant see this is odd

You are right

[Hightop77]

He didn't "go down".  He's following standard DOJ policy.

Once Trump won the presidential election, that meant that his two federal criminal cases (this one and the classified documents case) would eventually go away, whether by lawyers in the current Justice Department or the next one moving to dismiss, or Trump potentially attempting to pardon himself. The DOJ also has a policy against charging and prosecuting sitting presidents. Smith already was reportedly planning on resigning before Trump, who vowed to fire Smith, took office.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-hou...rcna181669

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

But that isn't true and a serious prosecution would argue that.  The USSC ruling was not a blanket exemption and if DOJ had believed that it was, the cases would have been dropped the day after the ruling came out.

[P1tchB7ack]

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

But that isn't true and a serious prosecution would argue that.  The USSC ruling was not a blanket exemption and if DOJ had believed that it was, the cases would have been dropped the day after the ruling came out.

It is true that the SCOTUS ruling makes it incredibly difficult to prosecute an ex-president.  Then you combine that with the fact that it's the DOJ's policy to not charge/prosecute a sitting President and you have a situation where it's likely just a huge waste of time and resources....more than have already been wasted.

And, no, the DOJ is unlikely to do anything "the day after".  They're going to do their due diligence and look at the situation and make a decision.

[Hightop77]

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

But that isn't true and a serious prosecution would argue that.  The USSC ruling was not a blanket exemption and if DOJ had believed that it was, the cases would have been dropped the day after the ruling came out.

It is true that the SCOTUS ruling makes it incredibly difficult to prosecute an ex-president.  Then you combine that with the fact that it's the DOJ's policy to not charge/prosecute a sitting President and you have a situation where it's likely just a huge waste of time and resources....more than have already been wasted.

And, no, the DOJ is unlikely to do anything "the day after".  They're going to do their due diligence and look at the situation and make a decision.

That is nonsense.  If it is your opinion now that Trump was prosecution proof after the ruling, DOJ would have understood that immediately and dropped the cases then.

[TakeThePoints]

"Deranged"  Jack Smith goes down!!!

He didn't "go down".  He's following standard DOJ policy.

Once Trump won the presidential election, that meant that his two federal criminal cases (this one and the classified documents case) would eventually go away, whether by lawyers in the current Justice Department or the next one moving to dismiss, or Trump potentially attempting to pardon himself. The DOJ also has a policy against charging and prosecuting sitting presidents. Smith already was reportedly planning on resigning before Trump, who vowed to fire Smith, took office.

https://www.msnbc.com/deadline-white-hou...rcna181669

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

We need to have those internment camps at full occupancy.

[TakeThePoints]

So why did they run an investigation on Trump even after he took office in 2017?

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

Yes…why the board big experts on everything cant see this is odd

You are right

There is only one "big expert" on this forum.....and his 2 underlings.

[zigbee]

They could have impeached and removed him from office and then prosecuted him after he left office.

It's fairly baffling that he wasn't charged with obstruction after he left office.

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

Yes…why the board big experts on everything cant see this is odd

You are right

There is only one "big expert" on this forum.....and his 2 underlings.

Yes, why this isnt echo chamber to right like zzl was to left is tragic.  Heaven forbid pushback with actual facts

Good point.

[Alabuckeye]

Do I get to be an underling too?

[zigbee]

Do I get to be an underling too?

Either that or join the tribe in echo chamber.   Its tribal.  You vs them…them vs me…expert vs clueless..

[TakeThePoints]

Do I get to be an underling too?

only underling number 2.  But yes, you are a close 2nd.

[Beastdog]

Do I get to be an underling too?

I think you were the "big expert," bamer.

[P1tchB7ack]

They could do that now.  They dropped these phony cases because Trump was elected and his AG would shut them down anyway.  Now they are scared of being prosecuted themselves and hopefully with good reason.

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

But that isn't true and a serious prosecution would argue that.  The USSC ruling was not a blanket exemption and if DOJ had believed that it was, the cases would have been dropped the day after the ruling came out.

It is true that the SCOTUS ruling makes it incredibly difficult to prosecute an ex-president.  Then you combine that with the fact that it's the DOJ's policy to not charge/prosecute a sitting President and you have a situation where it's likely just a huge waste of time and resources....more than have already been wasted.

And, no, the DOJ is unlikely to do anything "the day after".  They're going to do their due diligence and look at the situation and make a decision.

That is nonsense.  If it is your opinion now that Trump was prosecution proof after the ruling, DOJ would have understood that immediately and dropped the cases then.

He's not prosecution proof.  He's prosecution proof as it relates to any action that is determined to be an official presidential act.

[Hightop77]

Or they dropped the cases because of the SCOTUS ruling which made it nearly impossible to prosecute a former president.

But that isn't true and a serious prosecution would argue that.  The USSC ruling was not a blanket exemption and if DOJ had believed that it was, the cases would have been dropped the day after the ruling came out.

It is true that the SCOTUS ruling makes it incredibly difficult to prosecute an ex-president.  Then you combine that with the fact that it's the DOJ's policy to not charge/prosecute a sitting President and you have a situation where it's likely just a huge waste of time and resources....more than have already been wasted.

And, no, the DOJ is unlikely to do anything "the day after".  They're going to do their due diligence and look at the situation and make a decision.

That is nonsense.  If it is your opinion now that Trump was prosecution proof after the ruling, DOJ would have understood that immediately and dropped the cases then.

He's not prosecution proof.  He's prosecution proof as it relates to any action that is determined to be an official presidential act.

The DOJ narrative all along was that his actions were not official presidential acts.  The Court ruling had nothing to do with why they killed the case.

[Alabuckeye]

Fanni disqualified from Trump case. Yet another win.