Pain management

[K9Buck]

A friend of mine was prescribed opiods for years and successfully transitioned to medical marijuana and is now opioid free and better than ever.

[zigbee]

A friend of mine was prescribed opiods for years and successfully transitioned to medical marijuana and is now opioid free and better than ever.

It works.   I just can’t use it very much or the pill.  Took one yesterday and one tiday.  I still have lot of weed and will smoke it down the road.  I have lot of gummies.  Its there for later.  I have lot if beer too but no drink.  Once i get better i’ll enjoy but now I’m using this 

Its been horrible but im one procedure from sending this to scheduling and insurance approval.

[Sanitarian2]

He would have to go out of state.  I highly doubt he wants to routinely do that in his condition.  

Zig, if you don’t mind, you mentioned an accident/injury.  I missed a lot of this discussion in other threads.  What were the details of that?  I was just assuming you had a natural degenerative situation going on.

Edit:  never mind I see you mentioned a childhood whiplash situation.

I see. Perhaps it's a state regulation???

State legislatures write the law.  Marijuana is classified like cocaine

I think it's actually the Federal Government that has classified MJ at that level, there has been some talk about changing the classification. You are correct, even in States where MJ is legal, it's still technically a federal crime. Docs in your case also do not want ANYTHING in your system that could potentially mess with what they prescribe, not a ton of studies done on how MJ would react to your other medications.

[zigbee]

He would have to go out of state.  I highly doubt he wants to routinely do that in his condition.  

Zig, if you don’t mind, you mentioned an accident/injury.  I missed a lot of this discussion in other threads.  What were the details of that?  I was just assuming you had a natural degenerative situation going on.

Edit:  never mind I see you mentioned a childhood whiplash situation.

I see. Perhaps it's a state regulation???

State legislatures write the law.  Marijuana is classified like cocaine

I think it's actually the Federal Government that has classified MJ at that level, there has been some talk about changing the classification. You are correct, even in States where MJ is legal, it's still technically a federal crime. Docs in your case also do not want ANYTHING in your system that could potentially mess with what they prescribe, not a ton of studies done on how MJ would react to your other medications.

States still write their own law or ohio would not make it legal.  Fed law has zero to do with this.  NC law says no and NC law regulates Dr writing scripts and how to operate pain clinics

[3rdgensooner]

It's federal and state. Marijuana is scheduled by the feds. The DEA licenses physicians to prescribe scheduled medications.  Generally a doctor will not prescribe a scheduled medication to anyone taking illegal drugs of any kind or taking scheduled drugs without a proper prescription. Multiple reasons for that. One is possible drug reactions that the doctor may not be aware of if he doesn't know what the patient is taking. A person taking illegal drugs may have a casual attitude toward these medications and not follow instructions closely or may share the drugs. Also that person may more likely to be moving in circles where drugs are shared or sold. If a doctor ignores warning signs and a patient gets into trouble he can get into trouble with his medical board and the DEA may take his license to prescribe scheduled medications.
In states where marijuana is legal (state law not federal) you get into a gray zone. But almost all doctors fear losing DEA licensure.
So if I have patients on opioids and I get a drug analysis that medication better be on board and the only scheduled medication on board. Anything else and the opioid prescriptions cease and the patient is discharged from the practice.

[zigbee]

For the record i have no issue with any of this.  I am complying

[K9Buck]

A friend of mine was prescribed opiods for years and successfully transitioned to medical marijuana and is now opioid free and better than ever.

It works.   I just can’t use it very much or the pill.  Took one yesterday and one tiday.  I still have lot of weed and will smoke it down the road.  I have lot of gummies.  Its there for later.  I have lot if beer too but no drink.  Once i get better i’ll enjoy but now I’m using this 

Its been horrible but im one procedure from sending this to scheduling and insurance approval.

Good! I hope it goes great! You're due for a break.

[K9Buck]

It's federal and state. Marijuana is scheduled by the feds. The DEA licenses physicians to prescribe scheduled medications.  Generally a doctor will not prescribe a scheduled medication to anyone taking illegal drugs of any kind or taking scheduled drugs without a proper prescription. Multiple reasons for that. One is possible drug reactions that the doctor may not be aware of if he doesn't know what the patient is taking. A person taking illegal drugs may have a casual attitude toward these medications and not follow instructions closely or may share the drugs. Also that person may more likely to be moving in circles where drugs are shared or sold. If a doctor ignores warning signs and a patient gets into trouble he can get into trouble with his medical board and the DEA may take his license to prescribe scheduled medications.
In states where marijuana is legal (state law not federal) you get into a gray zone. But almost all doctors fear losing DEA licensure.
So if I have patients on opioids and I get a drug analysis that medication better be on board and the only scheduled medication on board. Anything else and the opioid prescriptions cease and the patient is discharged from the practice.

   

[zigbee]

It's federal and state. Marijuana is scheduled by the feds. The DEA licenses physicians to prescribe scheduled medications.  Generally a doctor will not prescribe a scheduled medication to anyone taking illegal drugs of any kind or taking scheduled drugs without a proper prescription. Multiple reasons for that. One is possible drug reactions that the doctor may not be aware of if he doesn't know what the patient is taking. A person taking illegal drugs may have a casual attitude toward these medications and not follow instructions closely or may share the drugs. Also that person may more likely to be moving in circles where drugs are shared or sold. If a doctor ignores warning signs and a patient gets into trouble he can get into trouble with his medical board and the DEA may take his license to prescribe scheduled medications.
In states where marijuana is legal (state law not federal) you get into a gray zone. But almost all doctors fear losing DEA licensure.
So if I have patients on opioids and I get a drug analysis that medication better be on board and the only scheduled medication on board. Anything else and the opioid prescriptions cease and the patient is discharged from the practice.

I was tolc same by my PA….but they tested first, found the THC, told me the rules, then gave me script for 50 perocets.  I know the consequences if i use THC.   I was honest and don’t have a problem.   Is non issue to me.

[zigbee]

Got relief today from 4 needles buried in neck to put nerve block in.  It hurt like hell and the entire ordeal broke me down to tears over back and neck.   Next meet PA for scheduling surgery.  Today was for epidural with catheter into the disc space for nerve block on nerve bed.  Success.

[Sanitarian2]

I'd cry to if it happened to me.

[zigbee]

I'd cry to if it happened to me.

It’s embarrassing…60 lb ripped from a man who just massacred rowing machines in workouts in my early 60s,  stairmaster,  bike, treadmill…and then lifted to be stronger.  I slowly lost those abilities and height.  3 inches restored with another 1-2 coming with neck surgery from spine collapsing.

Foot had surgery 5 years ago as it was the start but no Dr said lets check the back.  I did in Feb and got MRI and the next  chapter began.  It was discovered degenerative back disease.   Neck just in august after 6 ER and hospital stay.


I cried for my wife and glad my grown sons didn’t see their old man who pushed them in life reduced to this.

[zigbee]

I ended pain manage.

Still have some pain but declining.  Take one oxycodone 325 mg per day.  27 left with 9 ketorolac pills

Wont be long till im back in the Y working hard