The "Biden Family Corruption" mega-thread

[davebucknut]

As for future elections?  Katie bar the door.  I have no idea what to expect other than chaos.  2024 is probably gonna be 1968 on steroids.  Of course now I'm talking the entire political landscape.  I mean I would be shocked if we don't see Biden's brown shirts out rioting.  Then if Trump were to win?  They already threatened to burn it down in 2020.  Instead we got some idiots riled up on the other side that saw rioting go unpunished throughout the year.  You J6 guys didn't realize that that's a one way street in this country now. 

The good news is, as you mentioned, some states have cleaned things up a bit.  So, we'll see.  I just don't see how we have a run of the mill election year with this festival of freaks running the govt and the culture wars right now.  But I've been wrong before, so we'll see.

Justice is a 1 way street. Weak Republicans like Bill Barr won't lift a finger when they're AG. Dem AGs go for blood.

That's why pubs don't cheat and this is why dems are emboldened to cheat 

Oh sure they'll go after a few xhearwrs every now and then, just to portray the imagine of justice, but theynever overturn election results and none of the big players ever go to jail.

[ChinaBuck]

I can only speak regarding my experience in the Columbus and Cincinnati area when I was an active participant within the Dem Party out canvassing the suburban and rural areas. I can tell you that at no point did I ever observe ballot harvesting. Now, I was just mainly a door-to-door campaign worker, "Hey, vote for X, he's the best!" so my exposure to the inner workings would have been limited.

That said, part of the reason I left is that I could no longer square what I was asked to say with what the "American Experiment" is really about. Messages became increasingly antagonistic, hateful and outright lies so I could not in good conscious continue to participate.

1- ballot harvesting has never been legal or really able to be implemented, because of our laws and processes. 

2- just curious what year? Not that it would really matter because Ohio has never had it

From about 1984 to 2004. And yes, it would have been a less likely option in Ohio.

[ScarletHayes]

As for future elections?  Katie bar the door.  I have no idea what to expect other than chaos.  2024 is probably gonna be 1968 on steroids.  Of course now I'm talking the entire political landscape.  I mean I would be shocked if we don't see Biden's brown shirts out rioting.  Then if Trump were to win?  They already threatened to burn it down in 2020.  Instead we got some idiots riled up on the other side that saw rioting go unpunished throughout the year.  You J6 guys didn't realize that that's a one way street in this country now. 

The good news is, as you mentioned, some states have cleaned things up a bit.  So, we'll see.  I just don't see how we have a run of the mill election year with this festival of freaks running the govt and the culture wars right now.  But I've been wrong before, so we'll see.

Dems face more hurdles that Republicans.........unless Trump gets nod............The Kennedy and others considering a run for third no ID/lables parties with Joe Libermann.........this may wreck them.  AND of course the Biden mess with his boy.   LOT to consider.

Of course I disagree about Trump, but the rest of it I'm absolutely with ya.  

The thing people don't consider in regards to Trump is that, ok, say you got some non threatening GOP candidate that can pick up a few more independents/swing voters.  Well guess what, you just probably lost more voters on the other end.  Base voters.  People that didn't normally vote before Trump ran.  Best example I can give to compare is the 2012 election.  The Tea Party was building momentum and the best we could get out of it was Mitt Romney for a nominee.  After people saw Romney take his foot off the gas, as the election neared, they (base voters) sat home for the election.  Kind of glad we dodged that bullet.  

After decades of being taken for granted the GOP base is DONE with establishment candidates.  It's why Niki Haley, Hutchinson and Pence are already lap traffic.

[zigbee]

Yezzir.  The telephone pole stapler upped the left’s election game.  He was a community organizer.  a.k.a. A front for voter fraud.  This this is what these people do.  Remember ACORN?  How are those communities doing?  ACORN was BLM before BLM.  

The Dem’s ground game has always been better than the GOP’s Dudley Do Right collection of Election Day workers armed with cookies and brownies.  I mean you think it’s an accident they run the cities?  That’s where the votes are.  They may be corrupt AF but they’re not dumb.  Election night 2020 was so absurd.  Watching OVER a half MILLION vote lead dissolve over night was like a middle finger in our face. Yeah, of course we’re cheating in Philly.  What ya gonna do about it?  

Every single swing state he won in 2016 he lost in 2020 after having huge election night leads.  The math makes no sense.  The rate of those mail in ballots to overcome over a half million deficit would have had to be absurd, even for a deep blue city

I think it's failry well known urban areas hold liberal ideas and liberal people.   Rural areas are conservative.

2 things.

1- that argument isn't what we are making, everyone knows thus.

2- it only makes their cheating easier. You can send a few hundred radicals to ballot harvest in a small area, gather as many ballots as possible. Buy them with gift cards, free food, etc...

It is really easy for a person to go into a hud housing building in Philly and have them vote for dems with these tactics.90% black, 90% single moms. That just so happen to vote 95% of the time for dems.

Whereas if you want to do that in rural areas, you're talking about massive geographical areas that you've got to cover.

Dems don't need to cheat to win in urban areas.  It's in the bag

Yezzir.  The telephone pole stapler upped the left’s election game.  He was a community organizer.  a.k.a. A front for voter fraud.  This this is what these people do.  Remember ACORN?  How are those communities doing?  ACORN was BLM before BLM.  

The Dem’s ground game has always been better than the GOP’s Dudley Do Right collection of Election Day workers armed with cookies and brownies.  I mean you think it’s an accident they run the cities?  That’s where the votes are.  They may be corrupt AF but they’re not dumb.  Election night 2020 was so absurd.  Watching OVER a half MILLION vote lead dissolve over night was like a middle finger in our face. Yeah, of course we’re cheating in Philly.  What ya gonna do about it?  

Every single swing state he won in 2016 he lost in 2020 after having huge election night leads.  The math makes no sense.  The rate of those mail in ballots to overcome over a half million deficit would have had to be absurd, even for a deep blue city

I think it's failry well known urban areas hold liberal ideas and liberal people.   Rural areas are conservative.

Yeah.  Not sure what you're getting at with this.  I'm simply talking about the math being too unbelievable even for a deep blue city.  500+K vote lead overcame.  How big is Philly's (I can't remember if Pittsburgh came in as late as Philly or not) voting population?  And why is it that other large cities in other states can get their counts in at a decent hour?  Don't give Pitch's standard because they had to wait on those ballots because of state law.  That's precisely my point, WHY would they have to wait on those ballots?  Who would make that a law?  I know, GOP state legislature.  The same one that abdicated their responsibility to corrupt election lawyers and courts.  My gosh is Pa a cesspool

Lastly, there is a very large chunk of the GOP machine that DESPISES Donald Trump, and not only don't GAS if he loses, but would prefer it to be the case.   As for Georgia, Brian Kemp looks like Trent Lott and Jack Kemp's love child.

Point is why cheat in Chicago?  NY? Philly?  The people there vote dem.  Same in LA or Seattle or other urban areas for most part.  Even in Florida you find cities like Miami or in Texas with Austin being liberal and voting as such.

Because electoral college and senate are STATE vote tallies, not just districts

Then how do dems lose house seats in NY and California?

I was just told it's about precincts.........now it's about the State?  Make up your minds

[ScarletHayes]

You can tilt a state election is a few *key* precincts (the heavily populated areas).  That said, of course the GOP will win rural red districts in California.

[K9Buck]

The entire federal government is totally corrupt.  Why should anyone believe that national elections haven't been corrupted?

Because congress is controlled by republicans in the house and dems BARELY hold lead in senate.  IF what you state is true they'd hold entire congress as well.  Same with state elections of governors and houses.   Just not the case.

I'm not saying that Dems control ALL voting jurisdictions.  I AM saying that they control a sufficient number of jurisdictions to ensure that their candidate "wins" a presidential election.

Really?  How did Bush win twice?  How did Trump win?

Sorry, I'm not convinced for sure.   States like Michigan are out for sure.  Wisconsin?  MAYBE.  PA?   MAYBE...........AZ, NV ?   Toss up.   Georgia goes conservative.   The south vote conservatve and so does Mid West.

A lot has changed in a short time.  Obama and Biden previously said that marriage was between a man and a woman.  Now they say that men get pregnant.  The left has gone RADICAL left in a very short period of time.  You should check out some leftist forums.  They aren't in the least bit interested in whatever crimes and corruption that Joe and family are engaged in.

[K9Buck]

One thing is certain.  Our elections are very murky and mysterious and they're that way for a reason and it's not a good reason.  

I've come to the opinion that every vote should be a part of the public record.  Everybody should be able to get online and see how everyone else voted and see the ID they used when they voted along with their signature.  Every citizen should be able to verify every single vote themselves if they want to do so.  Of course, that will never happen and that's by design.

[maize]

Are you saying you want it where we can get online and see who/what our neighbors or anyone else voted for? I don’t want it that way.

I have been able to get online with some personal ID and see that I “voted”. I want the ability to get online and see what my votes counted as. I want to see who/what I voted for after my ballot is processed.

[maize]

A lot has changed in a short time.  Obama and Biden previously said that marriage was between a man and a woman.  Now they say that men get pregnant.  The left has gone RADICAL left in a very short period of time.  You should check out some leftist forums.  They aren't in the least bit interested in whatever crimes and corruption that Joe and family are engaged in.

I’ll help. From DU...

"in my mind that Hunter Biden used his connection to Joe Biden to impress people, possibly even to getting them to hire Hunter or his company. 


There is no doubt in my mind that Joe Biden did not, ever, even once, hint about quid pro quo or otherwise imply that his son could use him to influence legislation or administration policy. 

Hunter was "name dropping". Did he make money doing that? quite possibly. 

However, if you want to look to public corruption, let's start with Jared and Ivanka and the deals that were made when they were not only related to the president, but also paid members of the US Government... deals with China and Saudi Arabia. Deals that maybe leaked classified information to assist MBS to become the heir to the King of Saudi Arabia. Things worth $2 Billion." 

[zigbee]

The entire federal government is totally corrupt.  Why should anyone believe that national elections haven't been corrupted?

Because congress is controlled by republicans in the house and dems BARELY hold lead in senate.  IF what you state is true they'd hold entire congress as well.  Same with state elections of governors and houses.   Just not the case.

I'm not saying that Dems control ALL voting jurisdictions.  I AM saying that they control a sufficient number of jurisdictions to ensure that their candidate "wins" a presidential election.

Really?  How did Bush win twice?  How did Trump win?

Sorry, I'm not convinced for sure.   States like Michigan are out for sure.  Wisconsin?  MAYBE.  PA?   MAYBE...........AZ, NV ?   Toss up.   Georgia goes conservative.   The south vote conservatve and so does Mid West.

A lot has changed in a short time.  Obama and Biden previously said that marriage was between a man and a woman.  Now they say that men get pregnant.  The left has gone RADICAL left in a very short period of time.  You should check out some leftist forums.  They aren't in the least bit interested in whatever crimes and corruption that Joe and family are engaged in.

Things have changed.  DO you feel the majority of people now support anti science and morals which a slmie ball like Hunter Biden is being hammered this very minute?   Bud Light is going under.  Disney is under pressure from drop in sales and it's movies are  BLASTED and hated, Target is bust...............EVEN our boy Aldean is PRAISED............you act as if your ideas and opinions are in minority.  They are not

[K9Buck]

A lot has changed in a short time.  Obama and Biden previously said that marriage was between a man and a woman.  Now they say that men get pregnant.  The left has gone RADICAL left in a very short period of time.  You should check out some leftist forums.  They aren't in the least bit interested in whatever crimes and corruption that Joe and family are engaged in.

I’ll help. From DU...

"in my mind that Hunter Biden used his connection to Joe Biden to impress people, possibly even to getting them to hire Hunter or his company. 


There is no doubt in my mind that Joe Biden did not, ever, even once, hint about quid pro quo or otherwise imply that his son could use him to influence legislation or administration policy. 

Hunter was "name dropping". Did he make money doing that? quite possibly. 

However, if you want to look to public corruption, let's start with Jared and Ivanka and the deals that were made when they were not only related to the president, but also paid members of the US Government... deals with China and Saudi Arabia. Deals that maybe leaked classified information to assist MBS to become the heir to the King of Saudi Arabia. Things worth $2 Billion." 

Democratic Underground.  Yea, they're a bunch of delusional nutcases.

[K9Buck]

Because congress is controlled by republicans in the house and dems BARELY hold lead in senate.  IF what you state is true they'd hold entire congress as well.  Same with state elections of governors and houses.   Just not the case.

I'm not saying that Dems control ALL voting jurisdictions.  I AM saying that they control a sufficient number of jurisdictions to ensure that their candidate "wins" a presidential election.

Really?  How did Bush win twice?  How did Trump win?

Sorry, I'm not convinced for sure.   States like Michigan are out for sure.  Wisconsin?  MAYBE.  PA?   MAYBE...........AZ, NV ?   Toss up.   Georgia goes conservative.   The south vote conservatve and so does Mid West.

A lot has changed in a short time.  Obama and Biden previously said that marriage was between a man and a woman.  Now they say that men get pregnant.  The left has gone RADICAL left in a very short period of time.  You should check out some leftist forums.  They aren't in the least bit interested in whatever crimes and corruption that Joe and family are engaged in.

Things have changed.  DO you feel the majority of people now support anti science and morals which a slmie ball like Hunter Biden is being hammered this very minute?   Bud Light is going under.  Disney is under pressure from drop in sales and it's movies are  BLASTED and hated, Target is bust...............EVEN our boy Aldean is PRAISED............you act as if your ideas and opinions are in minority.  They are not

My wish and hope is that you're right and that I am overly pessimistic about the state of our nation.

[davebucknut]

Telling us about boycotts that have caused bug light to lose 25% of their sales and trying to extrapolate that as to who will win elections is a weak argument.

It is also obvious that zigbee is being intentionally obtuse.

[K9Buck]

Zigbee isn't obtuse.  He isn't convinced that we have fraudulent national elections.  My belief is that DeSantis as the nominee would demonstrate the fraudulent system after he loses in 24'.  We may very well get another Trump run in which case the old "they voted against Trump" claims will again be made and faith in the integrity of the system will remain after he "loses" again.

[zigbee]

Telling us about boycotts that have caused bug light to lose 25% of their sales and trying to extrapolate that as to who will win elections is a weak argument.

It is also obvious that zigbee is being intentionally obtuse.

I don’t expect you to understand.  No surprise.  I never said who will win.  What I posted is true and factual about things going on.