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(05-06-2023, 07:35 AM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: I've had the "No Parables in the Bible" discussion on occasion, can't win for losing.
It's just a discussion. People can disagree. No problem.
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I love you K9, but universalism is heresy.
In their absolute run from anything to do with the Bible, see their loss of belief in 5he divinity of Christ, their adoption of ordained LGBT clergy, their loss of belief in the bodily resurrection of Christ, the United Methodist church is in the process of accepting universalism as well.
To give a sense of where they are at, there is a Drag star being pushed in the more progressive elements for ordination. His name is Penny cost. Yeah, no blasphemy there. Google comments heâ€s made about Christ.
Universalism is heresy.
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(05-09-2023, 07:51 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I love you K9, but universalism is heresy.Â
In their absolute run from anything to do with the Bible, see their loss of belief in 5he divinity of Christ, their adoption of ordained LGBT clergy, their loss of belief in the bodily resurrection of Christ, the United Methodist church is in the process of accepting universalism as well.
To give a sense of where they are at, there is a Drag star being pushed in the more progressive elements for ordination. His name is Penny cost. Yeah, no blasphemy there. Google comments heâ€s made about Christ.
Universalism is heresy.
God disagrees with you.
1 Timothy 4:10 esv
For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe.
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(05-10-2023, 12:09 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-09-2023, 07:51 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: I love you K9, but universalism is heresy.Â
In their absolute run from anything to do with the Bible, see their loss of belief in 5he divinity of Christ, their adoption of ordained LGBT clergy, their loss of belief in the bodily resurrection of Christ, the United Methodist church is in the process of accepting universalism as well.
To give a sense of where they are at, there is a Drag star being pushed in the more progressive elements for ordination. His name is Penny cost. Yeah, no blasphemy there. Google comments heâ€s made about Christ.
Universalism is heresy.
God disagrees with you.
1 Timothy 4:10 esv
For to this end we toil and strive,[a] because we have our hope set on the living God, who is the Savior of all people, especially of those who believe. And that is the danger of pulling a verse out, ignoring the greater context of the passage and further not working scripture with scripture.Â
In the Gospels, Revelations, Thessalonians, there are clear admonitions that without faith it is impossible to please God.  Those who reject God will face an everlasting judgment. Even Jesus†s parable about the rich man suffering in hades speaks to it
How can Jesus be especially(more of) a savior for believers? Â Are there levels of believers?
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1 Corinthians 15:22-28
22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive. 23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits, then at his coming those who belong to Christ. 24 Then comes the end, when he delivers the kingdom to God the Father after destroying every rule and every authority and power. 25 For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26 The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27 For “God[c] has put all things in subjection under his feet.†But when it says, “all things are put in subjection,†it is plain that he is excepted who put all things in subjection under him. 28 When all things are subjected to him, then the Son himself will also be subjected to him who put all things in subjection under him, that God may be all in all.
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