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Gulags and chains for white people is next?
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Dem's 'flagrantly unconstitutional' anti-White supremacy bill would 'gut the First Amendment': Turley

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A new bill introduced in the House last week aims to curb White supremacy and hate crimes, but it has also sparked concern that it would blow a hole through the First Amendment.


The Leading Against White Supremacy Act of 2023, sponsored by Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, D-Texas, would make it a federal crime not just to commit a crime that is inspired by White supremacy, but to post something on social media that promotes White supremacist views if someone else then sees it and commits a crime.

"It is a criminal hate speech law that would violate core principles of the First Amendment," George Washington University Law Professor Jonathan Turley wrote in a Tuesday blog post. "It makes clear that the accused does not actually have to support or conspire in a crime."

Much of the bill deals with making it a crime to commit "conspiracy to engage in white supremacy inspired hate crime," outlining the elements of such an offense. Normally, criminal conspiracy statutes require two or more people working together toward the commission of a crime, but this bill only requires one person to actually be involved in the crime, if another person "published material advancing white supremacy, white supremacist ideology, antagonism based on "replacement theory", or hate speech that vilifies or is otherwise directed against any non-White person or group


The bill says that a published message would satisfy the bill if it is posted on social media or in any other way that has a likelihood that it would be viewed by people who are "predisposed to engaging in any action in furtherance of a white supremacy inspired hate crime" or "susceptible to being encouraged to engage in actions in furtherance of a white supremacy inspired hate crime."

Fox News Digital reached out to Jackson Leeâ€s office for clarification as to what those descriptions mean, but they did not immediately respond.

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The bill also says that the published message satisfies the elements of the statute if a reasonable person would find that it could motivate someone with such a predisposition or susceptibility to act. A reasonable person standard is common in the law, but Turley commented on how Jackson Leeâ€s bill uses it to consider how a person with a predisposition to commit a hate crime might act.



"The bizarrely written reasonable person standard is so opaque and cryptic," Turley said in an email to Fox News Digital, that it is "enthralling."

"How would a reasonable person discern a predisposition to engage in White supremacy?" Turley asked, likening it to Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewartâ€s 1964 test for pornography, in which he said, "I know it when I see it," rather than offer a clear definition.



"This is so flagrantly unconstitutional on so many levels from free speech to vagueness that it is actually impressive," Turley said in his blog post, warning that while the bill is highly unlikely to pass, it is reminiscent of laws like those in the United Kingdom under which someone was arrested for silently praying near an abortion clinic and another was convicted and sentenced to four years for "toxic ideology" when he had weapons as well as SS and KKK memorabilia in his bedroom.

The very idea that a bill like this would be introduced in the first place, Turley stated, is evidence of an "erosion of free speech values" like what is happening in other parts of the world.
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Fat chance. These simpletons are going to ride the "woke" wave to their collective downfall. They've never heard of "quitting while you're ahead".
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They need wedge issue(s) for 2024.  You would think that, by now, most Americans would see through the BS.  I mean how many times can they go to the well of racism to score political points?  How is it possible that this still works?
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(01-17-2023, 02:22 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: They need wedge issue(s) for 2024.  You would think that, by now, most Americans would see through the BS.  I mean how many times can they go to the well of racism to score political points?  How is it possible that this still works?

Capacity issues and tribal mentality are some of the reasons but free stuff is very tough to defeat.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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No doubt. Gulags and chains just around the corner.

More details here:

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(01-17-2023, 07:54 PM)P1tchblack Wrote: No doubt. Gulags and chains just around the corner.

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https://www.zigbeenuthouse.com/thread-12...#pid312944
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No, you leftists don't have the balls to get your hands dirty.
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For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains.  This govt full of Gender Studies and Sociology majors would be the first Marxist and/or fascist cabal to try to marginalize a majority.  Let me say that again...  a MAJORITY.  That is how staggeringly stupid these people would have to be (they are).  I'm talking the true believers that want Marxism or fascism/corporatism to replace our constitutional system.  These people really are that stupid.  Gonna "reeducate" all of us?  Good luck rounding us all up.  Good luck with the gun confiscation too.  You'll have to do that first.  

So no, it isn't practical to round up the western/Capitalistic/Judeo/Christian element of our society.  Which is really what they mean when they refer to white people.  If we only made up 10% of the population I bet some of 'em would push for the ole college try by 2035.  At least attempt to marginalize all of us.
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(01-17-2023, 10:37 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains.  This govt full of Gender Studies and Sociology majors would be the first Marxist and/or fascist cabal to try to marginalize a majority.  Let me say that again...  a MAJORITY.  That is how staggeringly stupid these people would have to be (they are).  I'm talking the true believers that want Marxism or fascism/corporatism to replace our constitutional system.  These people really are that stupid.  Gonna "reeducate" all of us?  Good luck rounding us all up.  Good luck with the gun confiscation too.  You'll have to do that first.  

So no, it isn't practical to round up the western/Capitalistic/Judeo/Christian element of our society.  Which is really what they mean when they refer to white people.  If we only made up 10% of the population I bet some of 'em would push for the ole college try by 2035.  At least attempt to marginalize all of us.

Whites will soon be just another minority.  Also, there will be no need to round them all up. You just have to round up dissenters and those who are outspoken.  The rest will get the message.  I think we are going to find by removing rule of law and equal treatment under the law and by continuing to condition society to hate Whites using things like CRT and social engineering through the education system and media, you can enslave people and control them without physical incarceration.  Making Whites subordinate and second class citizens is well under way.  You would have to be blind not to see it.
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(01-17-2023, 10:37 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains.  This govt full of Gender Studies and Sociology majors would be the first Marxist and/or fascist cabal to try to marginalize a majority.  Let me say that again...  a MAJORITY.  That is how staggeringly stupid these people would have to be (they are).  I'm talking the true believers that want Marxism or fascism/corporatism to replace our constitutional system.  These people really are that stupid.  Gonna "reeducate" all of us?  Good luck rounding us all up.  Good luck with the gun confiscation too.  You'll have to do that first.  

So no, it isn't practical to round up the western/Capitalistic/Judeo/Christian element of our society.  Which is really what they mean when they refer to white people.  If we only made up 10% of the population I bet some of 'em would push for the ole college try by 2035.  At least attempt to marginalize all of us.

"For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains."

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(01-17-2023, 10:56 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: Whites will soon be just another minority.  Also, there will be no need to round them all up. You just have to round up dissenters and those who are outspoken.  The rest will get the message.  I think we are going to find by removing rule of law and equal treatment under the law and by continuing to condition society to hate Whites using things like CRT and social engineering through the education system and media, you can enslave people and control them without physical incarceration.  Making Whites subordinate and second class citizens is well under way.  You would have to be blind not to see it.

Yeah that's the more modern/sophisticated route.  Main difference with other cases from the past is that we have a 2nd Amendment.  

On that note, I think America would spiral into a civil war of sorts before it fell totally in line.

As far as the rest of what you're saying, you certainly can't say they aren't trying.
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(01-17-2023, 11:13 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(01-17-2023, 10:37 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains.  This govt full of Gender Studies and Sociology majors would be the first Marxist and/or fascist cabal to try to marginalize a majority.  Let me say that again...  a MAJORITY.  That is how staggeringly stupid these people would have to be (they are).  I'm talking the true believers that want Marxism or fascism/corporatism to replace our constitutional system.  These people really are that stupid.  Gonna "reeducate" all of us?  Good luck rounding us all up.  Good luck with the gun confiscation too.  You'll have to do that first.  

So no, it isn't practical to round up the western/Capitalistic/Judeo/Christian element of our society.  Which is really what they mean when they refer to white people.  If we only made up 10% of the population I bet some of 'em would push for the ole college try by 2035.  At least attempt to marginalize all of us.

"For the sake of discussion let's say the ultimate plan is in fact gulags and chains."

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Dodgy

Maybe read further.
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It will be like China's social credit scoring where people get refused housing, food, and other necessities. No need for guns until enough folks have no other option but to fight back.

Of course, the leftists will be 100% for shutting people out of participating in everyday events until they are affected.

It's already happening with banning on social media, mask mandates, vaccine passports, and no-fly lists.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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