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Why Democrats are winning and Republicans are losing.
Big Picture, 2022 Midterm Elections Highlight the Distinct Difference Between Ballots and Votes
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The people assaulting democracy are accusing the other side of doing it. Â Maybe one day people will finally see through it. Â
Hiding candidates makes sense now. Â
Again, the Democrats are light years beyond the Dudley Do-Rights in the GOP when it comes to machine politics—-organizing, manipulating the rules, organized fraud, etc...
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If this is true, how does a democrat ever lose an election?
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you see republicans winning seats in Oregon, NY and California. HOW?
Also, there are poll watchers on board for each poll site and they can examine ballots and match up ID.
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Florida.
Anyway if we can get rid of Donnie Bankruptcy the GOP can fare a lot better. Effing loser.
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(11-13-2022, 10:46 PM)zigbee Wrote: you see republicans winning seats in Oregon, NY and California. HOW?
Also, there are poll watchers on board for each poll site and they can examine ballots and match up ID. We just saw videos and reports from blue state election officials telling them to ignore recent Supreme Court ruling regarding signature match and dating of ballots.
That was in Pa btw.
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(11-13-2022, 11:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (11-13-2022, 10:46 PM)zigbee Wrote: you see republicans winning seats in Oregon, NY and California. HOW?
Also, there are poll watchers on board for each poll site and they can examine ballots and match up ID. We just saw videos and reports from blue state election officials telling them to ignore recent Supreme Court ruling regarding signature match and dating of ballots.
That was in Pa btw. Yes, that was over turned, link you story with date
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In 94 Clinton got shellacked in his first midterm.  Obama, same thing in 2010.  Those were two pretty popular Democratic presidents in relatively good conditions (by comparison) that got punkâ€d hard.  Flash forward to Mashed potato brains.  By all accounts an absolute train wreck of an administration.  He keeps his senate total the same, and it looks like heâ€ll lose the house by the slimmest of margins.  Now Iâ€m no political swami/genius, but it sure appears that something is going on.  2+2 = birthday cake.
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(11-14-2022, 12:18 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: In 94 Clinton got shellacked in his first midterm.  Obama, same thing in 2010.  Those were two pretty popular Democratic presidents in relatively good conditions (by comparison) that got punkâ€d hard.  Flash forward to Mashed potato brains.  By all accounts an absolute train wreck of an administration.  He keeps his senate total the same, and it looks like heâ€ll lose the house by the slimmest of margins.  Now Iâ€m no political swami/genius, but it sure appears that something is going on.  2+2 = birthday cake. This ×1000. I made this point in much greater detail shortly after the election..2 years into Clinton, Rs got 230 House seats. For Obama, it was 246. Complete disaster Biden? Maybe 220, if we're lucky. Everyone here is picking their favorite "reason" for the disaster (e.g., 3rdgen is picking on Trump, for dzone, it's abortion). It may be bits and pieces of each. But neither would account for this. Trump wasn't on the ballot. Exit voters didn't highlight abortion that heavily. Something more sinister is at play here.
We are approaching one party rule. The second they are in control long enough to take the SCOTUS (which we've held this long due to luck and Donald Trump) it's game over for the Republic.
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Trump, himself wasnâ€t on the ballot. But, Trumpism was on the ballot. His fingerprints were all over this election.
My thoughts are “waves†are over. Tribes have formed and the independent, free thinkers are the way to victory. Give bad candidate choices and you will continue to see split ballots and ballot skipping. Itâ€s actually very exciting to see the idea of straight party for party sake go away.
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(11-14-2022, 05:44 AM)Beastdog Wrote: (11-14-2022, 12:18 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: In 94 Clinton got shellacked in his first midterm.  Obama, same thing in 2010.  Those were two pretty popular Democratic presidents in relatively good conditions (by comparison) that got punkâ€d hard.  Flash forward to Mashed potato brains.  By all accounts an absolute train wreck of an administration.  He keeps his senate total the same, and it looks like heâ€ll lose the house by the slimmest of margins.  Now Iâ€m no political swami/genius, but it sure appears that something is going on.  2+2 = birthday cake. This ×1000. I made this point in much greater detail shortly after the election..2 years into Clinton, Rs got 230 House seats. For Obama, it was 246. Complete disaster Biden? Maybe 220, if we're lucky. Everyone here is picking their favorite "reason" for the disaster (e.g., 3rdgen is picking on Trump, for dzone, it's abortion). It may be bits and pieces of each. But neither would account for this. Trump wasn't on the ballot. Exit voters didn't highlight abortion that heavily. Something more sinister is at play here.
We are approaching one party rule. The second they are in control long enough to take the SCOTUS (which we've held this long due to luck and Donald Trump) it's game over for the Republic.
Yeah it definitely appears the Dems want to "California" the United States.  Ok, parties want to expand power and maintain control. That's no secret. The troubling part, though, is the lack of push back from the establishment right. You have the MAGA folk fighting. Yet you have Foghorn Leghorn keeping money back in these key races and/or beating up MAGA candidates in primaries. 
There are a lot of moving parts here. It's not simply the Orange Menace. Time for the GOP to put a party leader in the senate that wants to advance the conservative ball down the field instead of doing whatever the hell you would call this.Â
There are a helluva lot more people than the Dems and Liz Cheney fighting to eliminate MAGA. Trust me, once they take out Trump (whenever that may be) DeSantis will be next. This might not be til after 2024 or 2028, depending on potential outcomes, but they will do their best to end this movement.
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(11-14-2022, 07:47 AM)Georgem80 Wrote: Trump, himself wasnâ€t on the ballot. But, Trumpism was on the ballot. His fingerprints were all over this election.
My thoughts are “waves†are over. Tribes have formed and the independent, free thinkers are the way to victory. Give bad candidate choices and you will continue to see split ballots and ballot skipping. Itâ€s actually very exciting to see the idea of straight party for party sake go away.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bullshit. Only dumb people believe in terms like "Trumpism." What complete, f*cking nonsense. The Dems were on the ballot last week, period. They have complete control of 2 branches of the federal government. Their decisions were on the ballot. And they made some extremely far left decisions that by any objective measure had horribly deleterious effects on this country. And the country apparently was fine with this. Thus should scare the living sheet out of any decent human being.
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A pretty sobering analysis. He mentions Foghorn Leghorn putting money in places that made no sense, etc...  The same people and/or types of people against Reagan and the Tea Party are the same players knee-capping MAGA. The Dems never attack their base. But the elite dc GOP types? Been doing it for ages. History repeats/rhymes. Â
Levin says the math was never really there in the senate for some "wave," but it does line up for 2024. As many on this board have noted. Â
He said many of the house races lost were extremely close. etc...
11-14-2022, 08:35 AM
(11-13-2022, 10:22 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: Why Democrats are winning and Republicans are losing.
Big Picture, 2022 Midterm Elections Highlight the Distinct Difference Between Ballots and Votes
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...and-votes/Â
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blo...ter-stage/
As Trump, Giuliani, Tucker and other Republicans have shown, claims of fraud are easy. Trump, apparently based on claims of internet trolls, called the State of Georgia and claimed all kinds of bullsh1t.... None of which was found to be true.Â
State debunks voter 'fraud' claims line-by-line
Q: How many dead people actually 'voted'? A: Only two.
ATLANTA — On Wednesday, state officials took on specific allegations of voter fraud during a legislative hearing and told lawmakers that while some are still under investigation, none have been substantiated.
Despite attacks on Georgia†s election from President Donald Trump and some of his backers, state election officials say the 2020 election was free of any significant fraud.
According to the Trump campaign, 2,056 felons still under sentence in the state of Georgia voted illegally. State officials said they are investigating a total of 74 potential felons who may have cast ballots.
The Trump campaign claims that some 66,000 underage people voted during the 2020 general election. The state says the actual number of underage voters was zero.
"There were four people who requested a ballot before they turned 18," Secretary of State counsel Ryan Germany told the state House Government Affairs Committee on Wednesday. "And they all turned 18 prior to November 3 -- which means they†re allowed to vote."
According to Germany, the Trump campaign complained that 2,423 unregistered people were allowed to vote. He said the actual number was zero.
Germany said that the Trump campaign complained that 30,000 people voted in Georgia and another state. Investigators have only found three such voters.
He said that the Trump campaign complained that 10,000 dead people voted during the general election. Germany said they have found a total of two.
"Usually, that†s somebody who died recently, and a family member votes with (the name)," Germany said. "That handful of instances are consistent with what we see in every election. Again, it†s not ok,."
He added the cases would be referred to the state election board for possible penalties.
The Trump campaign also complained about absentee drop boxes, where they insisted that alleged “ballot harvesting†took place, by people illegally dropping off "armloads" of ballots. Germany says video reviews found none.
The Trump campaign has also complained a lot about signatures on absentee ballots.
Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger told the committee he supports changing the law to require voters requesting absentee ballots to provide a reason for requesting the ballot.
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(11-14-2022, 08:14 AM)Beastdog Wrote: (11-14-2022, 07:47 AM)Georgem80 Wrote: Trump, himself wasnâ€t on the ballot. But, Trumpism was on the ballot. His fingerprints were all over this election.
My thoughts are “waves†are over. Tribes have formed and the independent, free thinkers are the way to victory. Give bad candidate choices and you will continue to see split ballots and ballot skipping. Itâ€s actually very exciting to see the idea of straight party for party sake go away.
Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Bullshit. Only dumb people believe in terms like "Trumpism." What complete, f*cking nonsense. The Dems were on the ballot last week, period. They have complete control of 2 branches of the federal government. Their decisions were on the ballot. And they made some extremely far left decisions that by any objective measure had horribly deleterious effects on this country. And the country apparently was fine with this. Thus should scare the living sheet out of any decent human being.
Touchy this morning.
I hope you†re not on the thread championing Trump and his endorsements. I suppose you never saw news reports on the “kingmakerâ€. That is all I need to support my assertion that Trump had his hands all over this election cycle. You can†t have it both ways.
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