The Jew hatred of Christ and His people has no end ...

[P1tchblack]

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The concept of race wasn't even around until around the 16-17th centuries. Also, when we're talking about the time in which Jesus and his disciples lived, people weren't exactly traveling the world to experience different races much less having the slightest concept of what "race" was. These are people who couldn't explain where the sun went at night and sacrificed animals to change the weather.

Semantics is irrelevant to the issue.  They were a group.

It's not irrelevant.  Race wasn't a known concept at the time. They were a group of people who were of a specific religion.  That's it.

That is what most people today see them as and they are wrong.  They don't want to see the massive damage to the world they do and believe Jews are persecuted for their religion.  In fact, the Jew complainer making an issue in this story is getting ready to play the Jew victim card and has even brought up the Holocaust.  Jews like her are evil opportunistic people who are beyond audacious in their lies and distortions.  Martin Luther explained very well how only God's wrath could make someone so evil and loathsome.

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

[Hightop77]

The concept of race wasn't even around until around the 16-17th centuries. Also, when we're talking about the time in which Jesus and his disciples lived, people weren't exactly traveling the world to experience different races much less having the slightest concept of what "race" was. These are people who couldn't explain where the sun went at night and sacrificed animals to change the weather.

Semantics is irrelevant to the issue.  They were a group.

It's not irrelevant.  Race wasn't a known concept at the time. They were a group of people who were of a specific religion.  That's it.

That is what most people today see them as and they are wrong.  They don't want to see the massive damage to the world they do and believe Jews are persecuted for their religion.  In fact, the Jew complainer making an issue in this story is getting ready to play the Jew victim card and has even brought up the Holocaust.  Jews like her are evil opportunistic people who are beyond audacious in their lies and distortions.  Martin Luther explained very well how only God's wrath could make someone so evil and loathsome.

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

[P1tchblack]

Semantics is irrelevant to the issue.  They were a group.

It's not irrelevant.  Race wasn't a known concept at the time. They were a group of people who were of a specific religion.  That's it.

That is what most people today see them as and they are wrong.  They don't want to see the massive damage to the world they do and believe Jews are persecuted for their religion.  In fact, the Jew complainer making an issue in this story is getting ready to play the Jew victim card and has even brought up the Holocaust.  Jews like her are evil opportunistic people who are beyond audacious in their lies and distortions.  Martin Luther explained very well how only God's wrath could make someone so evil and loathsome.

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

[Hightop77]

It's not irrelevant.  Race wasn't a known concept at the time. They were a group of people who were of a specific religion.  That's it.

That is what most people today see them as and they are wrong.  They don't want to see the massive damage to the world they do and believe Jews are persecuted for their religion.  In fact, the Jew complainer making an issue in this story is getting ready to play the Jew victim card and has even brought up the Holocaust.  Jews like her are evil opportunistic people who are beyond audacious in their lies and distortions.  Martin Luther explained very well how only God's wrath could make someone so evil and loathsome.

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

[P1tchblack]

That is what most people today see them as and they are wrong.  They don't want to see the massive damage to the world they do and believe Jews are persecuted for their religion.  In fact, the Jew complainer making an issue in this story is getting ready to play the Jew victim card and has even brought up the Holocaust.  Jews like her are evil opportunistic people who are beyond audacious in their lies and distortions.  Martin Luther explained very well how only God's wrath could make someone so evil and loathsome.

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

[Hightop77]

Everything you're talking about is "now" relative to Jesus time.  There was no acknowledgement of Jews as a race, so there's no reason to believe that Jesus warned us about Jews in the way you are claiming. Any "warning" would be from a religious/salvation standpoint. And, again, we don't know what Jesus actually said and what was made up by the Gospel writers, but it seems highly unlikely that Jesus, who was VERY much a Jew himself, would portray them as the Gospels do.

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

[P1tchblack]

Totally irrelevant to this story which is another Jew attempting to exploit the government and courts to violate a Christian's religious liberty.  It is what they do.

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

[Hightop77]

Right, you see nothing but ant-Christian evil in everything that any Jew does, which I can't help, but there's no basis for believing that you and Jesus were in any way on the same page.  Jesus wasn't anti-Jew. He was trying to save the Jews from what he believed was the impending end of times and ensure their eternal salvation in the Kingdom of God.

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

[P1tchblack]

He was trying to help you too but like the Jews you rejected him. Then he called them snakes.

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

"All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words."

Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible, so we have no idea what he actually said or didn't say.

[Hightop77]

The fact that you actually seem to think you and Jesus are fighting the same fight, or have the same beliefs, is absolutely ludicrous and should be horrifying to any Christian.  You believe exactly what you want to believe because your hatred runs so incredibly deep.

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

"All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words."

Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible, so we have no idea what he actually said or didn't say.

So every book in the world ever written is invalid if it contains quotes not said by the writer of the book?  Good to know.

[P1tchblack]

All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words.  Any Christian should agree.  Funny how they don't come and acknowledge that.  Proves what I have said that Jews have even high jacked much of Christianity turning it into Christian Zionism.

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

"All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words."

Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible, so we have no idea what he actually said or didn't say.

So every book in the world ever written is invalid if it contains quotes not said by the writer of the book?  Good to know.

That's not even close to what I said... no strawmen allowed.  What Jesus actually said is highly debated.  Bible scholars got together decades ago and debated the topic.  It resulted in color coded version of the Bible where each quote related to Jesus is rated based on the likelihood that he actually said what is claimed to have said.

The Gospel writers had their own agendas, that's why we have varying birth stories, death stories, divinity stories, etc.  For example, one gospel clearly wants to lay the blame of Jesus death on the Jews, while another does not.

[Hightop77]

Not really. Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible. In fact, it's fairly unlikely that Jesus was even able to write.

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

"All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words."

Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible, so we have no idea what he actually said or didn't say.

So every book in the world ever written is invalid if it contains quotes not said by the writer of the book?  Good to know.

That's not even close to what I said... no strawmen allowed.  What Jesus actually said is highly debated.  Bible scholars got together decades ago and debated the topic.  It resulted in color coded version of the Bible where each quote related to Jesus is rated based on the likelihood that he actually said what is claimed to have said.

The Gospel writers had their own agendas, that's why we have varying birth stories, death stories, divinity stories, etc.  For example, one gospel clearly wants to lay the blame of Jesus death on the Jews, while another does not.

It is only highly debated by unbelievers trying to fool naive people.  The most reliable witnesses are those who wrote the Gospels and the following generation of teachers, none of whom questioned the accounts.  For liars to come along 2000 years later to dispute them is laughable.

[P1tchblack]

Bizarre statement that has nothing to do anything being discussed.

"All I have done is quoted what Jesus said in his own words."

Jesus didn't write any books of the Bible, so we have no idea what he actually said or didn't say.

So every book in the world ever written is invalid if it contains quotes not said by the writer of the book?  Good to know.

That's not even close to what I said... no strawmen allowed.  What Jesus actually said is highly debated.  Bible scholars got together decades ago and debated the topic.  It resulted in color coded version of the Bible where each quote related to Jesus is rated based on the likelihood that he actually said what is claimed to have said.

The Gospel writers had their own agendas, that's why we have varying birth stories, death stories, divinity stories, etc.  For example, one gospel clearly wants to lay the blame of Jesus death on the Jews, while another does not.

It is only highly debated by unbelievers trying to fool naive people.  The most reliable witnesses are those who wrote the Gospels and the following generation of teachers, none of whom questioned the accounts.  For liars to come along 2000 years later to dispute them is laughable.

Of course they're the most reliable.... they are, quite literally, the only historical writings we have about the life of Jesus.  That doesn't mean they're actually reliable, just the most reliable by default.

[Hightop77]

The thread isn't about the credibility of the Bible.  It is about Jew hatred of Christians and their decades long attack on Christianity and our once Christian culture.

[P1tchblack]

The thread isn't about the credibility of the Bible.  It is about Jew hatred of Christians and their decades long attack on Christianity and our once Christian culture.

That's fine. We only got off on this tangent because you claimed that Jesus supported your anti-Semitic position.