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Church is a hospital for sinners...
#1
...not an ivory tower.

I heard that said today and it really resonated with me.
Anti-individualistic, the Fascist conception of life stresses the importance of the State and accepts the individual only in so far as his interests coincide with those of the State...



- Benito Mussolini
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(09-18-2022, 11:16 PM)K9Buck Wrote: ...not an ivory tower.

I heard that said today and it really resonated with me.

Itâ€s certainly not an ivory tower. We are so far removed from when the church started that today people think of it almost as a club, or social event. In the early church it was almost a death sentence yet people by the thousands came to Christ. Thatâ€s why we cannot be shaken as the persecution continues to grow,so does the church.
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#3
That definition is problematic for me K9.  It implies sinners can be cured of their disease of sin.  In reality sin has no cure.  It must be killed and the sinner then made alive.  The great flood was a picture of the death that is necessary to kill sin.  And it was a beautiful picture of the baptism that drowns the old Adam in us all.  Sadly most churches do not preach that the sinner must die and be resurrected with Christ in newness.  They instead preach morality and being a better person.

The Lord kills and makes alive.
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(09-19-2022, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: That definition is problematic for me K9.  It implies sinners can be cured of their disease of sin.  In reality sin has no cure.  It must be killed and the sinner then made alive.  The great flood was a picture of the death that is necessary to kill sin.  And it was a beautiful picture of the baptism that drowns the old Adam in us all.  Sadly most churches do not preach that the sinner must die and be resurrected with Christ in newness.  They instead preach morality and being a better person.

The Lord kills and makes alive.

Or it simply means churchgoers, like those who visit the hospital, will have to pay a significant amount of money to be treated.
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(09-19-2022, 11:25 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: That definition is problematic for me K9.  It implies sinners can be cured of their disease of sin.  In reality sin has no cure.  It must be killed and the sinner then made alive.  The great flood was a picture of the death that is necessary to kill sin.  And it was a beautiful picture of the baptism that drowns the old Adam in us all.  Sadly most churches do not preach that the sinner must die and be resurrected with Christ in newness.  They instead preach morality and being a better person.

The Lord kills and makes alive.
I agree with this. Sin canâ€t be cured. Christs words in John 3 about “you must be born again(dying to sin)”, Romans 6 “how shall we who are dead to sin continue any longer therein”, Romans 12:1-2 “placing ourselves on the altar(dying to self) daily” all speak to that

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