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SCOTUS on Remain in Mexico Policy
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(06-30-2022, 04:21 PM)Syncro Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 02:17 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: I fail to see how any executive order can't be rescinded by the current executive in charge.

There should be NO executive orders, by any party or leader in power.

We have a legislative process for a reason.

The real issue here is the people being elected to House and Senate are absolute assh*les who almost universally care about personal gain and power. 

Our system is broken...and I'm not sure there is a workable solution at this point.


About a month back I recall hearing Mike Lee discussing bringing up a bill bringing accountability back to congress and ending the farming out of tough decisions to bureaucracies and crap like executive orders.  I can't recall the name of it, and I haven't heard word one about it since then.  I'm sure ole Foghorn Leghorn will kill it somehow.
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#26
(06-30-2022, 04:21 PM)Syncro Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 02:17 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: I fail to see how any executive order can't be rescinded by the current executive in charge.

There should be NO executive orders, by any party or leader in power.

We have a legislative process for a reason.

The real issue here is the people being elected to House and Senate are absolute assh*les who almost universally care about personal gain and power. 

Our system is broken...and I'm not sure there is a workable solution at this point.

Correct.

The first EO was done when George Washington helped Martha decorate the WH. That's what the original intent of an EO. Like everything else, it was slowly changed to give the President more power and a way around legislation. 

All three branches of government are broken.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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#27
SCOTUS also ruled against Veterans this month. Veterans cannot use older mistakes - Clear Unmistakable Error - by the VA to win older appeals. It's about money nothing else. I've won several cases, including my own, using CUE. In my case, the back pay was just shy of $250k USD.
DC is a symptom, not the cause. The cause is basic voter stupidity and economic ignorance.
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#28
(06-30-2022, 04:21 PM)Syncro Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 02:17 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: I fail to see how any executive order can't be rescinded by the current executive in charge.

There should be NO executive orders, by any party or leader in power.

We have a legislative process for a reason.

The real issue here is the people being elected to House and Senate are absolute assh*les who almost universally care about personal gain and power. 

Our system is broken...and I'm not sure there is a workable solution at this point.

I can understand the need for executive actions when someone needs to get something done and there is no other avenue or mechanism for doing so.  It's part of being the country's CEO.  But when Presidents do things like Biden is doing using executive actions in order to not enforce immigration laws so millions of illegals can come into the country, the system, as you say, is clearly broken.  When people are running the country who want to dismantle the country, in complete violation of their constitutional oath, there is no political solution.
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#29
(06-30-2022, 08:10 PM)Beastdog Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:28 PM)wydileie Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:23 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The Dreamer executive order was clearly unconstitutional and should have been voided immediately. Certainly any POTUS following should be able to void an executive order. Especially one that was illegal.  Horseshit dumbass arguments aside that's just fact.
Nobody is disagreeing with that.
Umm, didn't you have about 3-4 posts in this thread doing that exact thing?
Nope, I stated several times it was illegal (as are pretty much all EOs). Once it actually starts being utilized, though, Constitutional questions come into conflict as to peoples' rights versus that of the standing of the EO.
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#30
(07-01-2022, 09:57 AM)wydileie Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 08:10 PM)Beastdog Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:28 PM)wydileie Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:23 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The Dreamer executive order was clearly unconstitutional and should have been voided immediately. Certainly any POTUS following should be able to void an executive order. Especially one that was illegal.  Horseshit dumbass arguments aside that's just fact.
Nobody is disagreeing with that.
Umm, didn't you have about 3-4 posts in this thread doing that exact thing?
Nope, I stated several times it was illegal (as are pretty much all EOs). Once it actually starts being utilized, though, Constitutional questions come into conflict as to peoples' rights versus that of the standing of the EO.
If it's illegal, then it's illegal and stays that way. A false promise shouldn't become law because it is being acted on.
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Hard men make easy times. 
Easy times make soft men. 
Soft men make hard times.
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#31
(07-01-2022, 05:44 PM)dkeener67 Wrote:
(07-01-2022, 09:57 AM)wydileie Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 08:10 PM)Beastdog Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:28 PM)wydileie Wrote:
(06-30-2022, 04:23 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The Dreamer executive order was clearly unconstitutional and should have been voided immediately. Certainly any POTUS following should be able to void an executive order. Especially one that was illegal.  Horseshit dumbass arguments aside that's just fact.
Nobody is disagreeing with that.
Umm, didn't you have about 3-4 posts in this thread doing that exact thing?
Nope, I stated several times it was illegal (as are pretty much all EOs). Once it actually starts being utilized, though, Constitutional questions come into conflict as to peoples' rights versus that of the standing of the EO.
If it's illegal, then it's illegal and stays that way. A false promise shouldn't become law because it is being acted on.
If a mayor unilaterally and illegally decides to put up a new speed limit sign that says 55 when it was 35, and you start driving 55 which gets caught by cops on radar guns, they canâ€t then prosecute you for following the sign just because it wasnâ€t legally put up.
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