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(06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:07 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (06-07-2022, 06:46 PM)K9Buck Wrote: At this point I'm shocked that no one on the right has pulled a Timothy McVeigh 2.0 on some federal building. I don't want such a thing to happen, of course, but the government is definitely pushing the American people into a corner. I see where you're coming from and I too hope it doesn't happen, I would much prefer a peaceful and constitutional remedy to our problems.
An article 5 convention of states would be optimal, but with the rinos and pay offset i doubt it would ever happen.
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The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  It†s happened before many times.  It will happen again
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(06-09-2022, 06:10 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (06-09-2022, 05:21 PM)lrrps21 Wrote: Quote:I hope the GOP has the stones to do a real investigation of this committee next year
Good Luck with that... Agreed, oh sure they'll hold their own hearings, but the media will call it all a conspiracy theory and nothing will come of it.
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(06-10-2022, 12:21 PM)TroyKidd Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:07 PM)davebucknut Wrote: (06-07-2022, 06:46 PM)K9Buck Wrote: At this point I'm shocked that no one on the right has pulled a Timothy McVeigh 2.0 on some federal building. I don't want such a thing to happen, of course, but the government is definitely pushing the American people into a corner. I see where you're coming from and I too hope it doesn't happen, I would much prefer a peaceful and constitutional remedy to our problems.
An article 5 convention of states would be optimal, but with the rinos and pay offset i doubt it would ever happen.
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The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  Itâ€s happened before many times.  It will happen again Herbert Hoover used military to disperse veterans wanting pensions and / or bonus from WWI in setting up camps in DC; Kent State incident.......couple off top of my head on isolated incidents of protest.  BUT, what these guys are referring to is not stopping a protest but taking over the entire nation by military force. No, that has never happened and it won't.
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(06-10-2022, 01:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-10-2022, 12:21 PM)TroyKidd Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:07 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I see where you're coming from and I too hope it doesn't happen, I would much prefer a peaceful and constitutional remedy to our problems.
An article 5 convention of states would be optimal, but with the rinos and pay offset i doubt it would ever happen.
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The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  Itâ€s happened before many times.  It will happen again Herbert Hoover used military to disperse veterans wanting pensions and / or bonus from WWI in setting up camps in DC; Kent State incident.......couple off top of my head on isolated incidents of protest.  BUT, what these guys are referring to is not stopping a protest but taking over the entire nation by military force. No, that has never happened and it won't. Because Joe said we the people don't have Nukes and Air Support which makes you wonder why those words would ever come out of a Presidents mouth.
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(06-10-2022, 01:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-10-2022, 12:21 PM)TroyKidd Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:07 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I see where you're coming from and I too hope it doesn't happen, I would much prefer a peaceful and constitutional remedy to our problems.
An article 5 convention of states would be optimal, but with the rinos and pay offset i doubt it would ever happen.
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The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  Itâ€s happened before many times.  It will happen again Herbert Hoover used military to disperse veterans wanting pensions and / or bonus from WWI in setting up camps in DC; Kent State incident.......couple off top of my head on isolated incidents of protest.  BUT, what these guys are referring to is not stopping a protest but taking over the entire nation by military force. No, that has never happened and it won't.
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(06-10-2022, 02:23 PM)TcSoup Wrote: (06-10-2022, 01:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-10-2022, 12:21 PM)TroyKidd Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  Itâ€s happened before many times.  It will happen again Herbert Hoover used military to disperse veterans wanting pensions and / or bonus from WWI in setting up camps in DC; Kent State incident.......couple off top of my head on isolated incidents of protest.  BUT, what these guys are referring to is not stopping a protest but taking over the entire nation by military force. No, that has never happened and it won't. Because Joe said we the people don't have Nukes and Air Support which makes you wonder why those words would ever come out of a Presidents mouth. It was a common myth that people state when they say that an armed population is meaningless because we don't have all of the fancy weapons that the military does.
Yet how did the afghans and Vietnamese cause us so much trouble in foreign wars? They had much less effective weapons than the US citizens do and their guerrilla war tactics cause a lot of headaches.
Either way I don't see a full fledged war on US soil between citizens and military any time soon (at least I hope not), so hopefully its Just the ramblings if an old man with late stage dementia.
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The "citizenry can't fight against the US military" schtick is such a stupid argument. Of course we could. The only way we couldn't would be if the following two things occurred:
1. A large majority of the military sides with the government over the people
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2. The government does not care at all about maintaining infrastructure and collateral damage to what they are ruling.
If the military and government are willing to glass the country and rule over a pile of rubble, sure there is no fighting back from that. But, if we assume they actually want to keep the country relatively intact, which is the only thing that makes sense, then they could never beat 330M people with 400M guns fighting a guerrilla war.
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Thereâ€s something beyond mere partisan politics at play here.  Iâ€m sure a lot of it (motive to destroy Trump) is buried, but I think some of it is motivated by swamp rats wanting to stay out of court and possibly jail.  I think some of it is that simple.  These people are truly petrified of Donald Trump.  Two, count em, TWO impeachments and a stolen election.  They pulled out all the stops.  Then this, a year and a half after heâ€s left office???  Â
Folks, there is something going on that we arenâ€t privy to.  These types of things are the actions of truly desperate people.  I mean many of them are trying to throw people in jail for the very things theyâ€ve done themselves. Â
Weâ€re likely missing something else big.  I just donâ€t know what it is
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(06-10-2022, 09:31 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Thereâ€s something beyond mere partisan politics at play here.  Iâ€m sure a lot of it (motive to destroy Trump) is buried, but I think some of it is motivated by swamp rats wanting to stay out of court and possibly jail.  I think some of it is that simple.  These people are truly petrified of Donald Trump.  Two, count em, TWO impeachments and a stolen election.  They pulled out all the stops.  Then this, a year and a half after heâ€s left office???  Â
Folks, there is something going on that we arenâ€t privy to.  These types of things are the actions of truly desperate people.  I mean many of them are trying to throw people in jail for the very things theyâ€ve done themselves. Â
Weâ€re likely missing something else big.  I just donâ€t know what it is Are you referring to this globalist/Marxist movement that is underway or something else?  Pretty cocky of Obama to call his shot (fundamentally transform).  But he meant it, obviously, and he's trying to do it with help from the usual suspects.
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Globalist/Marxist movement may be thee big reason. I mentioned in another thread that Trump set they/them back at least a decade, hence the rapid push and desperation we are seeing out of the swamp. Obama started the "fundamental transformation" and he was supposed to pass the baton to Ma. i.e. we were all frogs in a simmering pot. Trump warned the frogs to get the hell out of there. Now the swamp is trying to herd its frogs back where they believe they belong.
Whatever it is, the desperation is pretty obvious at this point.
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(06-10-2022, 10:53 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Globalist/Marxist movement may be thee big reason. I mentioned in another thread that Trump set they/them back at least a decade, hence the rapid push and desperation we are seeing out of the swamp. Obama started the "fundamental transformation" and he was supposed to pass the baton to Ma. i.e. we were all frogs in a simmering pot. Trump warned the frogs to get the hell out of there. Now the swamp is trying to herd its frogs back where they believe they belong.
Whatever it is, the desperation is pretty obvious at this point. I first read this as "pass the baton to Mao." Which would be essentially the same thing.
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(06-10-2022, 02:36 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (06-10-2022, 01:37 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-10-2022, 12:21 PM)TroyKidd Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:27 PM)zigbee Wrote: (06-07-2022, 09:16 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: The Bolsheviks aren't going to allow a peaceful solution unless it's a solution they want. You saw how they dealt with it when we elected Trump. That was just the beginning. Are you suggesting the gov't will use military on it's people? You REALLY think the military would attack our own people? That is far fetched and using a few FBI agents as example is balderdash. I just find it amazing you use this forum to completely discount the MILLIONS who live in NORMAL states controlled by governors and legislatures who do have access to military as well and feel the US Federal Gov't will use the military and the persons serving would go along with it. It's the same way you feel Stacy Abrams and Beto O'Rourke would win governorships. It is not going to happen. Same with stating congress isn't going to be taken back this fall by conservatives.....that will happen.  OBTW....to use YOUR LINE, Hitler isn't walking through the door and neither is Stalin. Come on man.  Itâ€s happened before many times.  It will happen again Herbert Hoover used military to disperse veterans wanting pensions and / or bonus from WWI in setting up camps in DC; Kent State incident.......couple off top of my head on isolated incidents of protest.  BUT, what these guys are referring to is not stopping a protest but taking over the entire nation by military force. No, that has never happened and it won't.
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The globalist/Marxist are doing it in Brazil now as they just implemented a law that says, "if a candidate sites disinformation or posts on social media using disinformation, that candidate can lose an election even if they're voted in by the people".
So as we know the term disinformation has been perverted by the left to include anything that the globalist/Marxists deem to be against the official narrative. So even things that prove to be true later on- which most things are- (covid, hunter Biden laptop for example) they can take away your election win.
This is likely on an effort to remove Bolsonero their trumpian style president.
The globalist/Marxist have successfully removed Colombian president Ivan Duque who is a center right president who chose not to run for a 2nd term and the polling leaders are socialists.
Our world is screwed because of these soros style scumbags who demand globalism over nationalism.
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