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SyncroHospital shooting today
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Dude unhappy about a surgery recently...used an "AR style weapon (whatever the f*ck that means) and a .40sw pistol".

Four dead, two docs, a nurse and a patient.

Probably won't hear much about it because the dude was black.
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#2
Office next to a hospital in Tulsa. It's why I carry even though the official policy is no weapons pretty much everywhere I've worked except when I had my own practice. There are always a few you get bad vibes from. It usually revolves around opiates and mental illness but not always. ERs seem to be the most common place for this sort of thing. At my previous office there was a pain management clinic on the ground floor and we went on lockdown a couple of times. It is just someone yelling threats in awaiting room 99.99% of the time of course. I was working for a hospital at the time and they knew I was carrying and looked the other way. Perks of the position. I wasn't waiting for Paul Blart in his golf cart if I was confronted in the parking lot at 2 AM. And I was a few times. 
The other reason to carry is we often work odd hours and sometimes nearby areas are sketchy.
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(06-02-2022, 05:48 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: Office next to a hospital in Tulsa. It's why I carry even though the official policy is no weapons pretty much everywhere I've worked except when I had my own practice. There are always a few you get bad vibes from.

Thanks for clarification.

Glad to hear you carry. Better to be judged by 12 than be carried by 6 in the unfortunate event of having to use it.
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(06-02-2022, 05:50 PM)Syncro Wrote:
(06-02-2022, 05:48 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: Office next to a hospital in Tulsa. It's why I carry even though the official policy is no weapons pretty much everywhere I've worked except when I had my own practice. There are always a few you get bad vibes from.

Thanks for clarification.

Glad to hear you carry.  Better to be judged by 12 than be carried by 6 in the unfortunate event of having to use it.
I'm not sure how much I get out of it in the clinic as I lock it in my personal office, a few steps away, while seeing patients. Just way too many that would be disturbed or distracted if they noticed. I have a nice pocket holster and carry a Smith and Wesson .357 340PD in it for work. Helpful going to and from work in the dark lots. Not sure I'm going to be holding off someone charging in with any semi auto rifle.  Otherwise I carry a .40cal Smith and Wesson. A piece of junk for you guys into guns and way too much recoil but light years better than nothing.
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#5
About 30 years ago at a local clinic here. a deranged mental case shot and killed a young physician as he walked into the exam room.  Right in the head.  Guy never had a chance.
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(06-02-2022, 05:31 PM)Syncro Wrote: Dude unhappy about a surgery recently...used an "AR style weapon (whatever the f*ck that means) and a .40sw pistol".

Four dead, two docs, a nurse and a patient.

Probably won't hear much about it because the dude was black.
Did not hear a peep on news. Interesting.
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(06-02-2022, 06:40 PM)Bonebuck Wrote:
(06-02-2022, 05:31 PM)Syncro Wrote: Dude unhappy about a surgery recently...used an "AR style weapon (whatever the f*ck that means) and a .40sw pistol".

Four dead, two docs, a nurse and a patient.

Probably won't hear much about it because the dude was black.
Did not hear a peep on news. Interesting.
I saw it on my news feeds. But it isn't getting big play like other recent shootings. No racial angle or kids. Now I'm seeing a story about a shooting at a cemetery in Wisconsin in my news feed!? It's like Saturday night in Chicago out there.
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#8
... and yet another shooting at a black funeral at Graceland Cemetery in Racine, Wisconsin today.  At least 5 shot at the funeral for Da'Shontay King Sr., shot and killed on May 20th by police.   Convenient place to be shot right there at the cemetery with a hospital next door I guess. Rolleyes


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#9
(06-02-2022, 06:10 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote: A piece of junk for you guys into guns and way too much recoil but light years better than nothing.

If it works when you need it then it's not a piece of junk.

I own a few Hi Points (mostly just for the goof)...they run like a raped date.

As an aside, I just got shipping notice for my new Q Fix 8.6 bolt gun...more excited for this than anything else I've ever owned! Gonna be putting some big holes in things for absolutely no reason at all
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#10
The design of medical facilities in the last 10-15 years has really taken a turn to deal with the security issues. More effort into placing security staff at key areas, for example, as 3rdGS noted at EDâ€s at the entries. Separating adult from pediatric waiting areas, bullet resistant glass at reception, cameras everywhere, severely limiting access by family to patient areas and instead have a televideo room that families can see the patient instead of being by the patientâ€s side. More psychosocial support. Entries that incorporate metal detectors.
The next big problem area is Out-patient. We now make sure that patients/family take a separate path from medical staff so that they never interact in a hallway. Patients from non-western cultures have more of a belief that doctors “fix” the patient problems, and if the patient doesnâ€t fully recover, itâ€s the doctors†fault. This in turn leads to greater number of extremely heated verbal attacks and physical assaults upon med staff. Of course, they turn a blind eye to the patients†lifestyle choices regarding drug use, obesity and smoking. But hey, you fix him or Iâ€ll kill you.
In-Patient also has become increasingly hazardous as well. In previous design a family could go right through an entire IP unit without even being stopped. Actually still extremely common today. Now we are looking at IP unit design where all waiting is in a waiting area outside the unit and you have to be buzzed in.
Hospital construction and operational costs have significantly increased due to dealing with increased security costs.
"Don't, I say don't bother me dog, can't ya see I'm thinkin'?"   Foghorn Leghorn
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#11
As a student and resident I used to just wander into areas of hospitals to talk to people or look around without anyone ever challenging me. I must just look like a doctor because the only thing ever said to me my entire career was "may I help you doctor?" . And I never have any idea where my ID badge is and haven't worn one in decades. 
Edit: Top right drawer of my desk. A bit dusty and some of the few strands of hair I have in the picture aren't gray. Been there a while.
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#12
In Dayton yesterday they had a shooting in the ER at Miami Valley Hospital. The sheriffâ€s Dept. doesnâ€t have enough staff to escort inmates, so they use rent a cops instead. A prisoner in jail on a parole violation stole the rent a cops gun in the ER, killed him, and then ran out into the parking lot and blew his own head off.
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