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(05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
People being able to just walk into schools at any time unimpeded appears to be the biggest problem.
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(05-24-2022, 07:57 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
People being able to just walk into schools at any time unimpeded appears to be the biggest problem. At the local elementary, they have essentially an airlock system…no entrance without direct acknowledgement
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(05-24-2022, 08:06 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:57 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
People being able to just walk into schools at any time unimpeded appears to be the biggest problem. At the local elementary, they have essentially an airlock system…no entrance without direct acknowledgement Not doubting your word, do you have link?
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(05-24-2022, 08:09 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 08:06 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:57 PM)Hightop77 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
People being able to just walk into schools at any time unimpeded appears to be the biggest problem. At the local elementary, they have essentially an airlock system…no entrance without direct acknowledgement Not doubting your word, do you have link? I†m sorry, I was unclear. I meant the town I live in
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(05-24-2022, 07:49 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. You guys have zero respect for the profession and in these times you want them armed. Â
You're off the deep-end with that remark. Â
Many citizens carry guns. Why can't some competent school employees?
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(05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
Or, someone can just let themselves in when another opens the door. There is no replacement for a gun.
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The only real deterrence and defense are to have ARMED people on campus.
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(05-24-2022, 08:11 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:49 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. You guys have zero respect for the profession and in these times you want them armed. Â
You're off the deep-end with that remark. Â
Many citizens carry guns. Why can't some competent school employees?
You really think a few hours of training is appropriate for teachers to have a gun around children?
Everyday citizens aren†t in a school setting. Put officers in every school. But don†t put me between a two crazy asses with guns.
You want an effective deterrence? Train teachers. Train them on crisis training. Don†t just say any moron with 8 hours in a Saturday is a good idea in a school.
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(05-24-2022, 08:36 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 08:11 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:49 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. You guys have zero respect for the profession and in these times you want them armed. Â
You're off the deep-end with that remark. Â
Many citizens carry guns. Why can't some competent school employees?
You really think a few hours of training is appropriate for teachers to have a gun around children?Â
Everyday citizens arenâ€t in a school setting. Put officers in every school. But donâ€t put me between a two crazy asses with guns.
You want an effective deterrence? Train teachers. Train them on crisis training. Donâ€t just say any moron with 8 hours in a Saturday is a good idea in a school.
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I know an ex-marine that's a teacher. Do you not have confidence in such people to be able to safely carry a gun at school? Â
Did you know that, when you're out and about, that you are surrounded by fellow citizens with guns?
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(05-24-2022, 08:29 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:55 PM)Bonebuck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. Governor Abbott has that control to do so. I live in heavy liberal Minnesota and there is 1 cop at the high school all the time. Of course he/she arrives when kids are entering school which I do not know if there was a cop there previously.
Also all doors are locked from outside. To enter you have to stand in front of door/window and press the buzzer and a woman 30 feet from entry is looking at you with camera's in front and behind you and asks what your business is.
It is certainly not bullet proof but sounds much better than this guy just walking in and gunning children down.
Or, someone can just let themselves in when another opens the door. There is no replacement for a gun. There are camera's throughout the outside yards to identify someone waiting to enter. A shooter would not know when someone was exiting unless it was a the band or football team or some other activity going on.
This Texas school was not secured. Now reporting 19 children dead and 2 teachers.
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(05-24-2022, 08:41 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 08:36 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 08:11 PM)K9Buck Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:49 PM)Georgem80 Wrote: (05-24-2022, 07:40 PM)K9Buck Wrote: Competent school employees should be given the option to conceal carry. Incredibly, the left insists on keeping schools soft targets. You guys have zero respect for the profession and in these times you want them armed. Â
You're off the deep-end with that remark. Â
Many citizens carry guns. Why can't some competent school employees?
You really think a few hours of training is appropriate for teachers to have a gun around children?Â
Everyday citizens arenâ€t in a school setting. Put officers in every school. But donâ€t put me between a two crazy asses with guns.
You want an effective deterrence? Train teachers. Train them on crisis training. Donâ€t just say any moron with 8 hours in a Saturday is a good idea in a school.
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I know an ex-marine that's a teacher. Do you not have confidence in such people to be able to safely carry a gun at school? Â
Did you know that, when you're out and about, that you are surrounded by fellow citizens with guns?
I live in Texas. What do you think. I†ve even started carrying against my better judgement and feel stupid.
Fine. There can be a fast track for former military. Im sorry your teacher friend died. (Ex marine )
I†ll even go deeper. District issued weapons and 2 hours a month range time. Qualifying every year.
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LeBron James expresses anger, calls for change after mass shooting at Texas elementary school
James said US children are supposed to be the safest when they are at school
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os Angeles Lakers star LeBron James expressed his anger and called for change Tuesday following the mass shooting at a Texas elementary school earlier in the day.
An 18-year-old gunman opened fire at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, killing 14 children, at least one teacher, and injuring others, Gov. Greg Abbott said.
"My thoughts and prayers goes out to the families of love ones loss & injured at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, TX!" James wrote on Twitter after the shooting.
"Like when is enough enough man!!!" he added. "These are kids, and we keep putting them in harms way at school. Like seriously ‘AT SCHOOL†where it's suppose to be the safest!"
The suspected shooter had a handgun and possibly a rifle when he opened fire at the school, located about 85 miles southwest of San Antonio.
The gunman acted alone and was likely killed by responding officers, but the investigation was still ongoing, authorities said.
"There simply has to be change! HAS TO BE!!" James wrote in another tweet. "Praying to the heavens above to all with kids these days in schools."
The NBA also released a statement following the shooting.
"The NBA family is devastated by the horrific shooting that took place today in Uvalde, Texas," the statement read. "Our thoughts and heartfelt condolences go out to the victims†family and friends, and the entire Robb Elementary School and Uvalde community."
The Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District first reported a school lockdown at 11:43 a.m. local time. All district and campus activities, including after-school programs and events, have been canceled.
It was the deadliest shooting at an elementary school since the 2012 massacre in Newtown, Connecticut.
Earlier this month, a mass shooting at a supermarket in Buffalo, New York, left at least 10 people dead.
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