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Did you guys all see what "Biden" did???
#61
(04-15-2022, 09:44 PM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 07:39 PM)zigbee Wrote: Biden administration resumes oil and gas leases on federal lands as gasoline prices soar

The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing sale notices next week
[Image: pumpjack-germany.jpg?ve=1&tl=1]



The Department of Interior announced Friday that it will resume the sale of oil and gas leases on federal land beginning next week.



The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing final environmental assessments and sale notices on Monday for future oil and gas projects and will offer for lease "approximately 173 parcels on roughly 144,000 acres, an 80 percent reduction from the acreage originally nominated," BLM stated.



The move comes as President Biden faces gasoline price hikes and soaring inflation, each of which could prove politically catastrophic. Biden had said during the campaign that he wanted to end such leases and put a moratorium on them the first day of his presidency.

The administration sought to emphasize that it was trying to reopen drilling responsibly.

"How we manage our public lands and waters says everything about what we value as a nation," Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a statement. "For too long, the federal oil and gas leasing programs have prioritized the wants of extractive industries above local communities, the natural environment, the impact on our air and water, the needs of Tribal Nations, and, moreover, other uses of our shared public lands."



The department stated that the Bureau of Land Management "assessed potentially available and eligible acreage" in the states of Alabama, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.

Within his first week in office, Biden signed an executive order to temporarily suspend new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters for drilling and fracking.



In a statement to Fox News regarding the decision, the American Petroleum Institute expressed concern over whether the move will add "new barriers to increasing energy production."

"U.S. energy resources are the envy of the world and a long-term strategic asset that strengthens our national security and fuels our economy," said Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of policy, economics, and regulatory affairs for API. "We are pleased to see the Interior Department finally announce a restart to the long-delayed onshore leasing program required under the law, but we are concerned that this action adds new barriers to increasing energy production, including removing some of the most significant parcels."



"At a time of high energy costs, these changes to long-standing fair and reasonable lease terms may further discourage oil and natural gas investment on federal lands," Macchiarola added. "We look forward to seeing the additional details of the leasing proposal."
So I'm sure the epa will be heavily involved and raise the price to drill anyways, so some will resume and some will not.

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(04-16-2022, 09:34 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:13 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 08:35 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 12:09 AM)davebucknut Wrote: Are the dems still in charge of the epa?

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Are you attempting to make a point?  Just link this please
My point is that we can all guarantee that the epa under the Biden administration will have more regulations on drilling than a trump administration.

If you need a "link" to figure that out then idk what to tell you.

Or are you just wanting to pick a fight with your members again?

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Whenever you get challenged on saying things which is not going to happen it's always "picking a fight" with members.    Biden is now doing what we all wanted and of course you chime in with "opinion" that the EPA will ruin this.  All I'm asking is for you to prove it.   I would like to learn believe it or not things which are TRUE not BS.   So, if you have information on this which is not speculation then simply give me something to read about it.  If it is your OPINION the EPA will do this simply just state it.
Thanks
I didn't say ruin, I said they'll likely have a lot of regulations on drilling, more than a trump admin would have.

Yet you somehow were shocked by this and demanded a link.

Well zig I don't need a link to predict what the Biden admin will do.

Ultimately those regulatory differences will cause some companies to choose not to drill at all because of higher costs.

Let this play out for a year and wr can see who was correct.

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So, I LINKED your two quotes and one says they will raise price to drill....OPINION, no link. 
Next you say PREDICT, which is opinion.

My OPINION is you are wrong along with the other poster on here who is also contrarian on all things.   My OPINION is (just like Youngkin winning in Virginia....remember that OPINION?) is oil companies WILL DRILL and prices WILL DROP at the pump.  My opinion is EPA will not sabotage this in least.   I really doubt EPA sets any prices on leases either.  I could be wrong and happy to state that, but again, Biden admin would not do this unless the goal of knocking down price of gas was key.

Also, you do know this is to help the mid term dems looking to get stomped?  Gas stays high it's another reason to vote red.  Think this through.
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#62
(04-16-2022, 09:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I think some people still don't understand that the wire pullers handling Biden will literally say anything to dupe the public and take the pressure off.  They can issue press releases all day long claiming they are going to open up more drilling but I don't believe it is going to happen at least not the way they are implying.  Keep in mind they are still blaming Putin for inflation and fuel prices.  These commies do focus groups and then decide what they can say that will help their polling.  Trust nothing that they say.


This is where I lean.  They have to show movement on the energy/inflation front to boost Dem polling for the upcoming midterms, but they are simultaneously married to their lunatic base as well.  They have to be able to tell the base in 2024 that they've done everything to halt domestic drilling.  So yeah, they are walking the political high wire right now.  Will they successfully dupe the public or their base?  Time will tell.  We'll see what happens to supply going forward.  Though, it's not like flipping a switch as the oil companies have to get equipment and men into place, etc...   and that is if they actually trust this administration to not pull the rug out from under them after a certain period of time.  My guess is no further serious domestic drilling until this administration is swept aside for good.
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#63
(04-16-2022, 09:42 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:33 AM)Hightop77 Wrote: I think some people still don't understand that the wire pullers handling Biden will literally say anything to dupe the public and take the pressure off.  They can issue press releases all day long claiming they are going to open up more drilling but I don't believe it is going to happen at least not the way they are implying.  Keep in mind they are still blaming Putin for inflation and fuel prices.  These commies do focus groups and then decide what they can say that will help their polling.  Trust nothing that they say.


This is where I lean.  They have to show movement on the energy/inflation front to boost Dem polling for the upcoming midterms, but they are simultaneously married to their lunatic base as well.  They have to be able to tell the base in 2024 that they've done everything to halt domestic drilling.  So yeah, they are walking the political high wire right now.  Will they successfully dupe the public or their base?  Time will tell.  We'll see what happens to supply going forward.  Though, it's not like flipping a switch as the oil companies have to get equipment and men into place, etc...   and that is if they actually trust this administration to not pull the rug out from under them after a certain period of time.  My guess is no further serious domestic drilling until this administration is swept aside for good.

Yeah, by the time it's proven that it was just another lie, November elections will be over.  They know they are going to lose the House.  They are just trying to save the Senate.  If they were seriously going to reopen domestic drilling, AOC and the Squad would be going nuts and the big activists would be frothing at the mouth.  Do you see any push back from those groups?
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#64
Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
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#65
(04-16-2022, 09:41 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 09:44 PM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 07:39 PM)zigbee Wrote: Biden administration resumes oil and gas leases on federal lands as gasoline prices soar

The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing sale notices next week
[Image: pumpjack-germany.jpg?ve=1&tl=1]



The Department of Interior announced Friday that it will resume the sale of oil and gas leases on federal land beginning next week.



The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing final environmental assessments and sale notices on Monday for future oil and gas projects and will offer for lease "approximately 173 parcels on roughly 144,000 acres, an 80 percent reduction from the acreage originally nominated," BLM stated.



The move comes as President Biden faces gasoline price hikes and soaring inflation, each of which could prove politically catastrophic. Biden had said during the campaign that he wanted to end such leases and put a moratorium on them the first day of his presidency.

The administration sought to emphasize that it was trying to reopen drilling responsibly.

"How we manage our public lands and waters says everything about what we value as a nation," Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a statement. "For too long, the federal oil and gas leasing programs have prioritized the wants of extractive industries above local communities, the natural environment, the impact on our air and water, the needs of Tribal Nations, and, moreover, other uses of our shared public lands."



The department stated that the Bureau of Land Management "assessed potentially available and eligible acreage" in the states of Alabama, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.

Within his first week in office, Biden signed an executive order to temporarily suspend new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters for drilling and fracking.



In a statement to Fox News regarding the decision, the American Petroleum Institute expressed concern over whether the move will add "new barriers to increasing energy production."

"U.S. energy resources are the envy of the world and a long-term strategic asset that strengthens our national security and fuels our economy," said Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of policy, economics, and regulatory affairs for API. "We are pleased to see the Interior Department finally announce a restart to the long-delayed onshore leasing program required under the law, but we are concerned that this action adds new barriers to increasing energy production, including removing some of the most significant parcels."



"At a time of high energy costs, these changes to long-standing fair and reasonable lease terms may further discourage oil and natural gas investment on federal lands," Macchiarola added. "We look forward to seeing the additional details of the leasing proposal."
So I'm sure the epa will be heavily involved and raise the price to drill anyways, so some will resume and some will not.

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(04-16-2022, 09:34 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:13 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 08:35 AM)zigbee Wrote: Are you attempting to make a point?  Just link this please
My point is that we can all guarantee that the epa under the Biden administration will have more regulations on drilling than a trump administration.

If you need a "link" to figure that out then idk what to tell you.

Or are you just wanting to pick a fight with your members again?

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Whenever you get challenged on saying things which is not going to happen it's always "picking a fight" with members.    Biden is now doing what we all wanted and of course you chime in with "opinion" that the EPA will ruin this.  All I'm asking is for you to prove it.   I would like to learn believe it or not things which are TRUE not BS.   So, if you have information on this which is not speculation then simply give me something to read about it.  If it is your OPINION the EPA will do this simply just state it.
Thanks
I didn't say ruin, I said they'll likely have a lot of regulations on drilling, more than a trump admin would have.

Yet you somehow were shocked by this and demanded a link.

Well zig I don't need a link to predict what the Biden admin will do.

Ultimately those regulatory differences will cause some companies to choose not to drill at all because of higher costs.

Let this play out for a year and wr can see who was correct.

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So, I LINKED your two quotes and one says they will raise price to drill....OPINION, no link. 
Next you say PREDICT, which is opinion.

My OPINION is you are wrong along with the other poster on here who is also contrarian on all things.   My OPINION is (just like Youngkin winning in Virginia....remember that OPINION?) is oil companies WILL DRILL and prices WILL DROP at the pump.  My opinion is EPA will not sabotage this in least.   I really doubt EPA sets any prices on leases either.  I could be wrong and happy to state that, but again, Biden admin would not do this unless the goal of knocking down price of gas was key.

Also, you do know this is to help the mid term dems looking to get stomped?  Gas stays high it's another reason to vote red.  Think this through.
Well zigbee one of us will be proven right and one will be proven wrong, let's bookmark this discussion and see who was correct.

See zig you seem to be an eternal optimist and im an eternal realist.

Hahaha as for youngkin you're going to carry that 1 sliver of a win to your grave. "Here lies zigbee who knew out nation wasn't doomed because Virginia had a razor thin victory in an off year election".

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#66
(04-16-2022, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
Got a link?

Remember youngkin won by a few thousand votes in an off year election, so HA.

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#67
(04-16-2022, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
They had to do it.  They need gas to come down in price and this will do it.  You all are entitled to your opinion but 80% of WHAT WAS CLOSSED is now going to be available.  I'd say the execs pretty much know in couple years Biden will be out.  
(04-16-2022, 10:03 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:41 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 09:44 PM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 07:39 PM)zigbee Wrote: Biden administration resumes oil and gas leases on federal lands as gasoline prices soar

The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing sale notices next week
[Image: pumpjack-germany.jpg?ve=1&tl=1]



The Department of Interior announced Friday that it will resume the sale of oil and gas leases on federal land beginning next week.



The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing final environmental assessments and sale notices on Monday for future oil and gas projects and will offer for lease "approximately 173 parcels on roughly 144,000 acres, an 80 percent reduction from the acreage originally nominated," BLM stated.



The move comes as President Biden faces gasoline price hikes and soaring inflation, each of which could prove politically catastrophic. Biden had said during the campaign that he wanted to end such leases and put a moratorium on them the first day of his presidency.

The administration sought to emphasize that it was trying to reopen drilling responsibly.

"How we manage our public lands and waters says everything about what we value as a nation," Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a statement. "For too long, the federal oil and gas leasing programs have prioritized the wants of extractive industries above local communities, the natural environment, the impact on our air and water, the needs of Tribal Nations, and, moreover, other uses of our shared public lands."



The department stated that the Bureau of Land Management "assessed potentially available and eligible acreage" in the states of Alabama, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.

Within his first week in office, Biden signed an executive order to temporarily suspend new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters for drilling and fracking.



In a statement to Fox News regarding the decision, the American Petroleum Institute expressed concern over whether the move will add "new barriers to increasing energy production."

"U.S. energy resources are the envy of the world and a long-term strategic asset that strengthens our national security and fuels our economy," said Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of policy, economics, and regulatory affairs for API. "We are pleased to see the Interior Department finally announce a restart to the long-delayed onshore leasing program required under the law, but we are concerned that this action adds new barriers to increasing energy production, including removing some of the most significant parcels."



"At a time of high energy costs, these changes to long-standing fair and reasonable lease terms may further discourage oil and natural gas investment on federal lands," Macchiarola added. "We look forward to seeing the additional details of the leasing proposal."
So I'm sure the epa will be heavily involved and raise the price to drill anyways, so some will resume and some will not.

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Pretty sure this is BLM (Bureau of Land Management and NOT EPA)
(04-16-2022, 09:34 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:28 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:13 AM)davebucknut Wrote: My point is that we can all guarantee that the epa under the Biden administration will have more regulations on drilling than a trump administration.

If you need a "link" to figure that out then idk what to tell you.

Or are you just wanting to pick a fight with your members again?

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Whenever you get challenged on saying things which is not going to happen it's always "picking a fight" with members.    Biden is now doing what we all wanted and of course you chime in with "opinion" that the EPA will ruin this.  All I'm asking is for you to prove it.   I would like to learn believe it or not things which are TRUE not BS.   So, if you have information on this which is not speculation then simply give me something to read about it.  If it is your OPINION the EPA will do this simply just state it.
Thanks
I didn't say ruin, I said they'll likely have a lot of regulations on drilling, more than a trump admin would have.

Yet you somehow were shocked by this and demanded a link.

Well zig I don't need a link to predict what the Biden admin will do.

Ultimately those regulatory differences will cause some companies to choose not to drill at all because of higher costs.

Let this play out for a year and wr can see who was correct.

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So, I LINKED your two quotes and one says they will raise price to drill....OPINION, no link. 
Next you say PREDICT, which is opinion.

My OPINION is you are wrong along with the other poster on here who is also contrarian on all things.   My OPINION is (just like Youngkin winning in Virginia....remember that OPINION?) is oil companies WILL DRILL and prices WILL DROP at the pump.  My opinion is EPA will not sabotage this in least.   I really doubt EPA sets any prices on leases either.  I could be wrong and happy to state that, but again, Biden admin would not do this unless the goal of knocking down price of gas was key.

Also, you do know this is to help the mid term dems looking to get stomped?  Gas stays high it's another reason to vote red.  Think this through.
Well zigbee one of us will be proven right and one will be proven wrong, let's bookmark this discussion and see who was correct.

See zig you seem to be an eternal optimist and im an eternal realist.

Hahaha as for youngkin you're going to carry that 1 sliver of a win to your grave. "Here lies zigbee who knew out nation wasn't doomed because Virginia had a razor thin victory in an off year election".

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Were you WAY OFF AND WRONG????????????  Is this the way you handle it when wrong?  Make up some dumb line?  Sorry, but you were way OFF.  I'm a realist not eternal optimist.   I see what is going on and don't use HYPERBOLE nor pessimistic opinion to lead my postings.
(04-16-2022, 10:04 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
Got a link?

Remember youngkin won by a few thousand votes in an off year election, so HA.

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Maybe I'll nominate for the weakest post of the day.   It's sorry.
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#68
Zig I agree that they have to get gas prices and inflation under control or it's going to be a blood bath for them.  That said, their idiot base...  They can't pizz those clowns off unless they are simply resigned to losing in 2024 and will quietly push a RINO behind the scenes to undermine Trump and/or DeSantis.  

Ya gotta ask yourself, what does the Dem establishment stand for?  Are they still at least partly with the American worker, or are they all in on the psycho clown show?
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#69
(04-16-2022, 10:26 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig I agree that they have to get gas prices and inflation under control or it's going to be a blood bath for them.  That said, their idiot base...  They can't pizz those clowns off unless they are simply resigned to losing in 2024 and will quietly push a RINO behind the scenes to undermine Trump and/or DeSantis.  

Ya gotta ask yourself, what does the Dem establishment stand for?  Are they still at least partly with the American worker, or are they all in on the psycho clown show?
I listen to Dan Bongino daily and he had some interesting comments yesterday on the liberals and what they wish to do.  What they've tried to do in cities like Seattle and San Fran and others has not worked.  It's backfired.  Same with Biden policies like this one.   The backlash to all this presents at the election box and they will pay.   They are destroying their very own party and I have to say I'm enjoying it.  IF this energy policy he implemented worked so well he would not reverse course.   I've been saying it and saying it there are WAY more normal people and voters in the US that left wing radicals.   The dems have tried to appease them and guess what?  Backfired.
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#70
Dan Bongino references this author, Michael Anton and he has some very interesting things presented on the left and their attitudes and failures.
https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not...hat-it-is/

https://www.firstthings.com/article/2021...vindicated
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#71
(04-16-2022, 10:34 AM)zigbee Wrote: I listen to Dan Bongino daily and he had some interesting comments yesterday on the liberals and what they wish to do.  What they've tried to do in cities like Seattle and San Fran and others has not worked.  It's backfired.  Same with Biden policies like this one.   The backlash to all this presents at the election box and they will pay.   They are destroying their very own party and I have to say I'm enjoying it.  IF this energy policy he implemented worked so well he would not reverse course.   I've been saying it and saying it there are WAY more normal people and voters in the US that left wing radicals.   The dems have tried to appease them and guess what?  Backfired.


This is partly my point, they have to know that this policy doesn't work.  They knew it in advance, but the fanatical left, with their billionaire benefactors, holds a TON of sway in that party now.  So it seems they had to go this route even if they knew it wouldn't work.  That base might be nuts, but it is powerful.  

The attempts at federalizing elections is another sign that they know they are out of step with average Americans and have to continue to cook the books (like in 2020) to win elections if they are going to stay married to that lunatic base. 

Bottom line is that something has gotta give here for the Democrats.  They are at a crossroads.  They can't simultaneously appease UAW workers and the woke mob.  Something's gotta give.  That or completely get the election game tilted in their favor.
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#72
(04-16-2022, 10:09 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
They had to do it.  They need gas to come down in price and this will do it.  You all are entitled to your opinion but 80% of WHAT WAS CLOSSED is now going to be available.  I'd say the execs pretty much know in couple years Biden will be out.  
(04-16-2022, 10:03 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:41 AM)zigbee Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 09:44 PM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-15-2022, 07:39 PM)zigbee Wrote: Biden administration resumes oil and gas leases on federal lands as gasoline prices soar

The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing sale notices next week
[Image: pumpjack-germany.jpg?ve=1&tl=1]



The Department of Interior announced Friday that it will resume the sale of oil and gas leases on federal land beginning next week.



The Bureau of Land Management will begin issuing final environmental assessments and sale notices on Monday for future oil and gas projects and will offer for lease "approximately 173 parcels on roughly 144,000 acres, an 80 percent reduction from the acreage originally nominated," BLM stated.



The move comes as President Biden faces gasoline price hikes and soaring inflation, each of which could prove politically catastrophic. Biden had said during the campaign that he wanted to end such leases and put a moratorium on them the first day of his presidency.

The administration sought to emphasize that it was trying to reopen drilling responsibly.

"How we manage our public lands and waters says everything about what we value as a nation," Interior Secretary Deb Haaland said in a statement. "For too long, the federal oil and gas leasing programs have prioritized the wants of extractive industries above local communities, the natural environment, the impact on our air and water, the needs of Tribal Nations, and, moreover, other uses of our shared public lands."



The department stated that the Bureau of Land Management "assessed potentially available and eligible acreage" in the states of Alabama, Colorado, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oklahoma, Utah and Wyoming.

Within his first week in office, Biden signed an executive order to temporarily suspend new oil and gas leases on public lands and offshore waters for drilling and fracking.



In a statement to Fox News regarding the decision, the American Petroleum Institute expressed concern over whether the move will add "new barriers to increasing energy production."

"U.S. energy resources are the envy of the world and a long-term strategic asset that strengthens our national security and fuels our economy," said Frank Macchiarola, senior vice president of policy, economics, and regulatory affairs for API. "We are pleased to see the Interior Department finally announce a restart to the long-delayed onshore leasing program required under the law, but we are concerned that this action adds new barriers to increasing energy production, including removing some of the most significant parcels."



"At a time of high energy costs, these changes to long-standing fair and reasonable lease terms may further discourage oil and natural gas investment on federal lands," Macchiarola added. "We look forward to seeing the additional details of the leasing proposal."
So I'm sure the epa will be heavily involved and raise the price to drill anyways, so some will resume and some will not.

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Pretty sure this is BLM (Bureau of Land Management and NOT EPA)
(04-16-2022, 09:34 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 09:28 AM)zigbee Wrote: Whenever you get challenged on saying things which is not going to happen it's always "picking a fight" with members.    Biden is now doing what we all wanted and of course you chime in with "opinion" that the EPA will ruin this.  All I'm asking is for you to prove it.   I would like to learn believe it or not things which are TRUE not BS.   So, if you have information on this which is not speculation then simply give me something to read about it.  If it is your OPINION the EPA will do this simply just state it.
Thanks
I didn't say ruin, I said they'll likely have a lot of regulations on drilling, more than a trump admin would have.

Yet you somehow were shocked by this and demanded a link.

Well zig I don't need a link to predict what the Biden admin will do.

Ultimately those regulatory differences will cause some companies to choose not to drill at all because of higher costs.

Let this play out for a year and wr can see who was correct.

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So, I LINKED your two quotes and one says they will raise price to drill....OPINION, no link. 
Next you say PREDICT, which is opinion.

My OPINION is you are wrong along with the other poster on here who is also contrarian on all things.   My OPINION is (just like Youngkin winning in Virginia....remember that OPINION?) is oil companies WILL DRILL and prices WILL DROP at the pump.  My opinion is EPA will not sabotage this in least.   I really doubt EPA sets any prices on leases either.  I could be wrong and happy to state that, but again, Biden admin would not do this unless the goal of knocking down price of gas was key.

Also, you do know this is to help the mid term dems looking to get stomped?  Gas stays high it's another reason to vote red.  Think this through.
Well zigbee one of us will be proven right and one will be proven wrong, let's bookmark this discussion and see who was correct.

See zig you seem to be an eternal optimist and im an eternal realist.

Hahaha as for youngkin you're going to carry that 1 sliver of a win to your grave. "Here lies zigbee who knew out nation wasn't doomed because Virginia had a razor thin victory in an off year election".

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Were you WAY OFF AND WRONG????????????  Is this the way you handle it when wrong?  Make up some dumb line?  Sorry, but you were way OFF.  I'm a realist not eternal optimist.   I see what is going on and don't use HYPERBOLE nor pessimistic opinion to lead my postings.
(04-16-2022, 10:04 AM)davebucknut Wrote:
(04-16-2022, 10:02 AM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Zig you have to admit that this is a tough spot for them.  Independents and old school Dems are turning on them, but they really need that base to show up in 2024.  If you were an oil exec in charge of day-to-day operations, would you make significant investments under this clown show?  

Hey if this turns out all great for the American consumer and helps with inflation, then I say amen!  I just currently have serious doubts.
Got a link?

Remember youngkin won by a few thousand votes in an off year election, so HA.

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Maybe I'll nominate for the weakest post of the day.   It's sorry.
Fine zigbee, let's do this....

I bet you a 1 month personal hiatus if the gop wins Virginia in 2024, if the dems win Virginia in 2024 then you take a 1 month person hiatus.

Deal?



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