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How many of you argue politics on other sites and where?
#25
(07-02-2019, 08:58 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 07:48 AM)bucklam66 Wrote: There is not even a point to talk politics on this board really, it is basically 15 to 40 people that have discussed the same topics for 5-10+ years,. And without a 3v or Lucas the nuthouse eats itself anyways.
This is true, lol.............

3v or Lucas just makes it nuttier.......I'm at about 15 or 16 years on here.  My political views have evolved, so the whole 'same' idea is not necessarily true.
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#26
(07-02-2019, 09:11 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:58 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 07:48 AM)bucklam66 Wrote: There is not even a point to talk politics on this board really, it is basically 15 to 40 people that have discussed the same topics for 5-10+ years,. And without a 3v or Lucas the nuthouse eats itself anyways.
This is true, lol.............

3v or Lucas just makes it nuttier.......I'm at about 15 or 16 years on here.  My political views have evolved, so the whole 'same' idea is not necessarily true.
How would you say your views have evolved? myself, I now support gay marriage from a Constitutional standpoint, but other than that, I haven't really changed my politcal opinions on anything. The Ds have gotten crazier, obviously.
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#27
I suspect my political views have shaded this way or that. I find discussing things "on line" prepares me for those rare occasions where something comes up in real life, I can perhaps note that some belief is actually not true because I checked it previously.

I have some very prolonged discussions about climate change with several scientists I know. They aren't really arguments though, just discussions. Only one of them is what I'd called totally convinced it's real.
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#28
(07-02-2019, 09:15 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 09:11 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:58 AM)stxbuck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 07:48 AM)bucklam66 Wrote: There is not even a point to talk politics on this board really, it is basically 15 to 40 people that have discussed the same topics for 5-10+ years,. And without a 3v or Lucas the nuthouse eats itself anyways.
This is true, lol.............

3v or Lucas just makes it nuttier.......I'm at about 15 or 16 years on here.  My political views have evolved, so the whole 'same' idea is not necessarily true.
How would you say your views have evolved? myself, I now support gay marriage from a Constitutional standpoint, but other than that, I haven't really changed my politcal opinions on anything. The Ds have gotten crazier, obviously.

I've gone from a Republican to a Conservative.  I've disengaged my Christianity from my politics to where my Christianity impacts my views, but is not tied to my politics.  I've learned to look at things more dispassionately.  I'm more interested in truth than 'my side' winning.

There's more, but that's somewhat how I've changed.
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#29
My views have changed from thinking we need a more efficient government to solve problems to realizing that isn't possible so it makes no sense to aspire to it. The only thing I can aspire for is smaller central government that is less intrusive in our lives.
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#30
(07-02-2019, 09:53 AM)cincydawg Wrote: My views have changed from thinking we need a more efficient government to solve problems to realizing that isn't possible so it makes no sense to aspire to it.  The only thing I can aspire for is smaller central government that is less intrusive in our lives.

Adam Kokesh


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THE PLATFORM

The platform is simple. When elected, I will swear in, walk to the White House, and sign one executive order. This executive order will lay out the process for dissolving the federal government in a peaceful, orderly manner. With it, I will be resigning as President to become “Custodian of the Federal Government.” The executive order will appoint heads of each federal department, or “Custodians” who will be instructed to carry out a mostly predetermined plan for their departments. The only authority that I will retain will be to replace Custodians if they are unable to complete their responsibilities or are not faithfully executing the plan.

Some agencies will be very easy to do away with, like those that perform only regulatory functions like the Department of Education, or those that perform completely illegitimate functions, like the IRS. Some departments, like Justice, Federal Bureau of Prisons, Interior, need to be handled carefully and in some ways transferred to state governments. National Parks will be preserved as independent non-profits that will be open to the public. American troops abroad will be immediately brought home in a responsible and orderly manner that does not endanger their lives. All foreign federal properties will be liquidated. The offensive weaponry of the Department of Defense will also be liquidated (while defensive weaponry and appropriate personnel will be apportioned to the states) and the funds will be used to create endowments for the newly privatized Department of Veterans Affairs owned by veterans, and Social Security Administration, owned by every American who has paid into it as of the signing of the executive order.

Without your support, the inevitable collapse of the US Federal Government will not happen in a peaceful, orderly manner. In one sense, the message of this campaign is, “We can do things the easy way, or the hard way.” The hard way is to keep our heads buried in the sand. The easy way is to apply a solution as big as the problem. However, there is no guarantee that the American people will choose the easy way. Itâ€s quite possible that there will be a collapse before a critical mass of us see the light. We may have a very broad secession movement. Regardless of how the federal government comes to an end, I will run until it ends.

More important than the politics of this campaign is the education about the nature of government and how we can apply it to live more free NOW! This campaign is about encouraging people to minimize the role of government in their lives and their role in empowering government. When you understand government properly, you relate to it properly. One of the most important ways to disempower government is to stop paying taxes (legally or illegally.) One of the most effective ways to do this is to stop using government money, and with cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, this is easier than ever.

Well before the 2020 campaign season, Iâ€ll be releasing the exact plan of this campaign as a book, AMERICAN FREEDOM!, which will lay out the general plan and principles of the platform. Because the executive order will be constantly under development in order to stay current with the state of the government, as the campaign progresses, we will have an updated version of the executive order on this site by the time I will be seeking the nomination of the Libertarian Party at our 2020 convention. Until then, join the revolution youâ€ve been waiting for by signing up under your state in the

https://kokeshforpresident.com/
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#31
(07-02-2019, 08:57 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: I was surprised how long the Shed hung around, particularly in its un-moderated format.  Much tamer political forums, in the Scout network, were shutdown long before.

Steve kept that thing afloat for longer than I'd have guessed, but he always said "once it becomes a headache, it's over". Once a few of the guys began to dox other members you knew it was gonna die a quick death.

I do miss reading what Bob had to say, dude was quite smart and was in tune with just about any subject brought up.
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#32
(07-02-2019, 10:28 AM)Syncro Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:57 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: I was surprised how long the Shed hung around, particularly in its un-moderated format.  Much tamer political forums, in the Scout network, were shutdown long before.

Steve kept that thing afloat for longer than I'd have guessed, but he always said "once it becomes a headache, it's over".  Once a few of the guys began to dox other members you knew it was gonna die a quick death.

I do miss reading what Bob had to say, dude was quite smart and was in tune with just about any subject brought up.

Yep, I had some interesting discussion with bob, smooth, snotty, dj and a few others (can't recall their screen names).  Always interesting there, that's for sure.
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#33
(07-02-2019, 11:02 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 10:28 AM)Syncro Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:57 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: I was surprised how long the Shed hung around, particularly in its un-moderated format.  Much tamer political forums, in the Scout network, were shutdown long before.

Steve kept that thing afloat for longer than I'd have guessed, but he always said "once it becomes a headache, it's over".  Once a few of the guys began to dox other members you knew it was gonna die a quick death.

I do miss reading what Bob had to say, dude was quite smart and was in tune with just about any subject brought up.

Yep, I had some interesting discussion with bob, smooth, snotty, dj and a few others (can't recall their screen names).  Always interesting there, that's for sure.

Good memories.  I invited those guys here, but they apparently didn't come.
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#34
ZZL, but i am banned from there, so just here and twitter now.
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#35
(07-02-2019, 11:20 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 11:02 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 10:28 AM)Syncro Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:57 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: I was surprised how long the Shed hung around, particularly in its un-moderated format.  Much tamer political forums, in the Scout network, were shutdown long before.

Steve kept that thing afloat for longer than I'd have guessed, but he always said "once it becomes a headache, it's over".  Once a few of the guys began to dox other members you knew it was gonna die a quick death.

I do miss reading what Bob had to say, dude was quite smart and was in tune with just about any subject brought up.

Yep, I had some interesting discussion with bob, smooth, snotty, dj and a few others (can't recall their screen names).  Always interesting there, that's for sure.

Good memories.  I invited those guys here, but they apparently didn't come.

I was going to invite them, but only paying members can PM other users.  I'm not a paying member.
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#36
(07-03-2019, 01:11 PM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 11:20 AM)K9Buck Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 11:02 AM)P1tchblack Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 10:28 AM)Syncro Wrote:
(07-02-2019, 08:57 AM)P1tchblack Wrote: I was surprised how long the Shed hung around, particularly in its un-moderated format.  Much tamer political forums, in the Scout network, were shutdown long before.

Steve kept that thing afloat for longer than I'd have guessed, but he always said "once it becomes a headache, it's over".  Once a few of the guys began to dox other members you knew it was gonna die a quick death.

I do miss reading what Bob had to say, dude was quite smart and was in tune with just about any subject brought up.

Yep, I had some interesting discussion with bob, smooth, snotty, dj and a few others (can't recall their screen names).  Always interesting there, that's for sure.

Good memories.  I invited those guys here, but they apparently didn't come.

I was going to invite them, but only paying members can PM other users.  I'm not a paying member.
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