(02-21-2022, 03:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:19 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:08 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I'm running out of space in my "Alex Jones was right money jar".

Vitamin D helps avoid serious covid cases.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/...-research/


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What do you have to say about that, THIRDGENSOONER?!?

Every single "conspiracy theory" has came true and every single "tin foil hat wearing person was right".



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Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

(02-21-2022, 06:56 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:19 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:08 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I'm running out of space in my "Alex Jones was right money jar".

Vitamin D helps avoid serious covid cases.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/...-research/


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What do you have to say about that, THIRDGENSOONER?!?

Every single "conspiracy theory" has came true and every single "tin foil hat wearing person was right".



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Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 06:56 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:19 PM)Beastdog Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:08 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I'm running out of space in my "Alex Jones was right money jar".

Vitamin D helps avoid serious covid cases.

https://www.goodhousekeeping.com/health/...-research/


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What do you have to say about that, THIRDGENSOONER?!?

Every single "conspiracy theory" has came true and every single "tin foil hat wearing person was right".



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Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

(02-21-2022, 07:30 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 06:56 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:19 PM)Beastdog Wrote: What do you have to say about that, THIRDGENSOONER?!?

Every single "conspiracy theory" has came true and every single "tin foil hat wearing person was right".



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Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

I'd love for the cdc and who to release all of that data, what are they hiding? I think its because they know the scrutiny would be too much.

The entire fiasco was devious

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(02-21-2022, 07:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:30 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 06:56 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 03:58 PM)davebucknut Wrote: Every single "conspiracy theory" has came true and every single "tin foil hat wearing person was right".



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Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

I'd love for the cdc and who to release all of that data, what are they hiding? I think its because they know the scrutiny would be too much.

The entire fiasco was devious

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Whatever. Your statement as per usual was devoid of facts. False. Regardless of what one thinks of the measures that were taken it doesn't help to spout utter BS out your azz. You know nothing at all about COVID and what impacts it has on anyone or on the health system. You would possibly know how measures taken have impacted people and society given you actually have some experience with that but I'm not so sure given it's you.

(02-21-2022, 07:51 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:30 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 06:56 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: Really, which theories do you contend "came true"?  Fatality rate was pretty much spot on after the first couple months and has decreased with better treatment options, vaccinations and the death of those most likely to pass in the first wave or so.

While we don't like it, physical distancing was effective, masking of course had some benefits but the percentage of decrease in spread is under FIERCE debate. Vaccinations did not kill or expose us to CHIPS or Alien Octopi and were very effective at preventing hospitalizations and death. From day one the medical community debated rather or not a two-dose series would be adequate or if even annual flu type vaccination programs would be needed. Mutations were expected, especially with so many not taking vaccinations.

The only thing they got wrong was failing to factor in all public health issues and focusing on JUST Covid-19 in their calculations, 20% of the population being antivaxxers and government haters and American citizens demanding their personal rights.

The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

I'd love for the cdc and who to release all of that data, what are they hiding? I think its because they know the scrutiny would be too much.

The entire fiasco was devious

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Whatever. Your statement as per usual was devoid of facts. False. Regardless of what one thinks of the measures that were taken it doesn't help to spout utter BS out your azz. You know nothing at all about COVID and what impacts it has on anyone or on the health system. You would possibly know how measures taken have impacted people and society given you actually have some experience with that but I'm not so sure given it's you.

Even the NY times said that masks only saved 2% of total deaths.

Hurray!

BTW I got vaxxed in July 2021 once it was available to me, so I'm not talking about getting vaxxed- I'm talking about mask wearing, at home learning, and the tins of ridiculous restrictions that heavily impacted every aspect of society.

From day 1 all we should've done is told the sick and elderly to stay home, then get everyone vaxxed as we did.

I just cannot believe that so many people allowed our nation to be decimated by the biggest lie in the last 50 years at least.



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For the record, and of note where I live, Beijing has no outdoor space mask mandate. Indoor mandate is limited to public transportation. Now, that said, most people still wear masks outdoors and inside public places, such as shopping malls and grocery stores. People at our office building typically wear mask in the entrance lobby, but no one wears a mask on the office floors.

I expect mask usage outdoors and in public spaces to drop a lot now that the Olympics are over.

(02-21-2022, 08:20 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:51 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:30 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote: The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

I'd love for the cdc and who to release all of that data, what are they hiding? I think its because they know the scrutiny would be too much.

The entire fiasco was devious

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Whatever. Your statement as per usual was devoid of facts. False. Regardless of what one thinks of the measures that were taken it doesn't help to spout utter BS out your azz. You know nothing at all about COVID and what impacts it has on anyone or on the health system. You would possibly know how measures taken have impacted people and society given you actually have some experience with that but I'm not so sure given it's you.

Even the NY times said that masks only saved 2% of total deaths.

Hurray!

BTW I got vaxxed in July 2021 once it was available to me, so I'm not talking about getting vaxxed- I'm talking about mask wearing, at home learning, and the tins of ridiculous restrictions that heavily impacted every aspect of society.

From day 1 all we should've done is told the sick and elderly to stay home, then get everyone vaxxed as we did.

I just cannot believe that so many people allowed our nation to be decimated by the biggest lie in the last 50 years at least.



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You still haven't noted the lies of which you speak, difference of opinions regarding precautions which have merit but no lies. I'll buy incompetence and single mindedness for a thousand.

(02-21-2022, 08:20 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:51 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:46 PM)davebucknut Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:30 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(02-21-2022, 07:24 PM)davebucknut Wrote: The overwhelming majority of people who died were going to die in the next few months anyways, usually stage 4 cancer or generally had 3 or 4 other comorbidities and/or were 80 years old or older.

Again we destroyed out society over nothing.

The entire response from day 1 was a scam.

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That is factually false. You know nothing. Average loss of years of life was 10 years back in 2020 and the average age of those who were dying has been dropping and was down to 67 in October of last year and during omicron far more younger people were dying or badly injured.

I'd love for the cdc and who to release all of that data, what are they hiding? I think its because they know the scrutiny would be too much.

The entire fiasco was devious

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Whatever. Your statement as per usual was devoid of facts. False. Regardless of what one thinks of the measures that were taken it doesn't help to spout utter BS out your azz. You know nothing at all about COVID and what impacts it has on anyone or on the health system. You would possibly know how measures taken have impacted people and society given you actually have some experience with that but I'm not so sure given it's you.

Even the NY times said that masks only saved 2% of total deaths.

Hurray!

BTW I got vaxxed in July 2021 once it was available to me, so I'm not talking about getting vaxxed- I'm talking about mask wearing, at home learning, and the tins of ridiculous restrictions that heavily impacted every aspect of society.

From day 1 all we should've done is told the sick and elderly to stay home, then get everyone vaxxed as we did.

I just cannot believe that so many people allowed our nation to be decimated by the biggest lie in the last 50 years at least.



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Second post in a row deflecting away from the fact you have no idea whatsoever what you are talking about. Your original post was false BS.

I know statistics and the stats prove that the response to entire too heavy handed.

It should be 100% up to the individual on whether they want to wear a mask, now and 2 years ago. Also airlines telling us to wear a mask is STUPID.

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(02-21-2022, 09:38 PM)davebucknut Wrote: I know statistics and the stats prove that the response to entire too heavy handed.

It should be 100% up to the individual on whether they want to wear a mask, now and 2 years ago. Also airlines telling us to wear a mask is STUPID.

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Actually you know nothing. "Statistics and stats"? Did you really post that?  At any rate those involve numbers meaning you know nothing. Again deflecting from the false post you made that you can't back up.

Some good news:

Quote:

Reassuring on the BA.2 variant: reinfections after BA.1 with it can occur, they are rare, mostly in unvaccinated, and mildhttps://t.co/qkPDR7Ie14 data from 47 BA.2 reinfection cases in Denmark pic.twitter.com/l8GFGZrdhJ

— Eric Topol (@EricTopol) February 22, 2022

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Don't Mucinex, snot and mucus prevent the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus on Fomites and commonly touched surfaces.

(02-22-2022, 05:31 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: Don't Mucinex, snot and mucus prevent the spread of the SARS-CoV-2 virus on Fomites and commonly touched surfaces.

Hmm… it appear some of the experts are finally catching up.

https://www.vdh.virginia.gov/coronavirus.../infected/

Itâ€s good to know you and Dr. Lexus donâ€t represent the “new science” that looked like pre-COVID-19 hysteria science.

So a State Department of Health website that includes OTC products to treat SYMTPOMS of Covid-19 is somehow proving some point that only you know you are attempting to make? I missed the part where it prevents viral diseases from turning into bacterial infections, was that at the end?