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How ‘bout when the former POTUS was spied on as candidate and/or president?  It clearly happens.  Maybe Tucker jumped the shark here, I donâ€t know.  That said, itâ€s not exactly beyond the realm these days.  I guess weâ€ll eventually see
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(06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts.
Word of mouth from an NSA employee that observed the Text/E-mail wouldn't be enough for you anyway. The Pope could swear on a stack of bibles, you could have witnessed the event and had it burnt into your forehead and it wouldn't be enough to convince you. That's something I've notice about your posts, you don't believe much of anything.
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(06-29-2021, 01:27 PM)cincydawg Wrote: Another possibility is a competing network has "bugged" his emails, or broken into them, that isn't hard to believe. Or some hacker has done it, and sold info to CNN et al.
My guess is NSA is a bit busy to worry about the ever self important Tucker Carlson.
You would be wrong, the NSA has plenty of time to "watch" tens of thousands of persons of interest. Don't know one way or the other but if you don't think people are being watched you are wrong.
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I wouldn't be surprised if the NSA was targeting tucker just as much as I wouldn't be surprised someone was gaslighting him for the lolz.
Also, pretty good writeup on media bias.
https://thehill.com/opinion/internationa...-heres-why
"And trust is like toothpaste: Once it†s out of the tube, it†s impossible to regain. Example: The New York Times hasn't endorsed a Republican presidential candidate in 65 years, which means the so-called paper of record endorsed Walter Mondale in 1984 and Michael Dukakis in 1988, who lost a combined 89 states.Â
Talk about being out of touch. The Washington Post has never endorsed a Republican presidential candidate in its history. CNN – once a beacon of solid, objective reporting in the Bernard Shaw/Gulf Wars era – has become a parody of itself in losing nearly 75 percent of its audience since the beginning of the year, an unprecedented drop."
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(06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts. Did the NSA who was asked, deny this allegation??
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It seems like the same people who doubt this could be true, are the same people who believed Mike Brown yelled hands up don't shoot as he was shot in the back, believed Trump was not spied on, believe Obama's irs did not target conservatives because there was a leftist group thrown in, believed Nick Sandman was given fait tx in the media and would not be sued and lose (though they settled out of court for many many millions, and believed Jussie Smullet, oh yeah and they believe the border situation under Biden is doing great because there have been a lot of arrest made.
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(06-29-2021, 04:49 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote: (06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts.
That's something I've notice about your posts, you don't believe much of anything.
cincy isn't exactly objective. He thinks he is and he tries to pretend that he is, but he's pretty much partisan to the government.
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(06-29-2021, 08:56 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: It seems like the same people who doubt this could be true, are the same people who believed Mike Brown yelled hands up don't shoot as he was shot in the back, believed Trump was not spied on, believe Obama's irs did not target conservatives because there was a leftist group thrown in, believed Nick Sandman was given fait tx in the media and would not be sued and lose (though they settled out of court for many many millions, and believed Jussie Smullet, oh yeah and they believe the border situation under Biden is doing great because there have been a lot of arrest made.
Yea, and Obama didn't know about Hillary's secret server until he "heard about it in the news".
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(06-29-2021, 08:50 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts. Did the NSA who was asked, deny this allegation??
FWIW
Of course, we should believe them without questionÂ
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(06-29-2021, 09:45 PM)maize Wrote: (06-29-2021, 08:50 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts. Did the NSA who was asked, deny this allegation??
FWIW
Of course, we should believe them without question  It's embarrassing that a guy who had to explain away his lies in court is believed about something like this.
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And the IRS said they didn't target conservatives. LOL.
I have NO IDEA if the NSA is spying on Carlson or any other Americans, but I'm not taking their word for it. And even if it could be PROVEN that they were, nobody at the NSA would be sanctioned and it would all be swept under the proverbial rug.
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Pitch is distrustful of local police but totally trustful of federal officials.
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(06-29-2021, 09:45 PM)maize Wrote: (06-29-2021, 08:50 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: (06-29-2021, 01:16 PM)cincydawg Wrote: "Carlson told viewers that the evidence they have of this is that “the whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails, thereâ€s no other possible source for that information, period.â€"
Obviously, texts and emails have receipients, who can of course divulge the information to others, if you want a simple alternative explanation. Or perhaps NSA somehow wants him off the air and is illegally monitoring his emails and texts. Did the NSA who was asked, deny this allegation??
FWIW
Of course, we should believe them without question Thanks Maize, I did not see if they responded. I appreciate they said his allegations were untrue. I am gonna play a leftist here though and say "they said he was not targeted but that does not mean he was not monitored as an incidental portion of their monitoring of some other target
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06-29-2021, 10:18 PM
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Well that whistle blower got the information from somewhere. I wonder how close Tucker is to this WB. I would assume he would have a level of trust with this individual before making such a bold accusation. If not I would imagine a serious level of vetting was done. Â
I just remember Trump being painted as a nut for his claim of being spied on and that turned out to be the case. Â
Would love to see this have some conclusion, but I'm guessing the story evaporates and we never really get to the bottom of it. The wusses at Fox will probably tell him to drop it or walk.
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