Welcome to the zigbeenuthouse!!! Our discussion board has topics on ALL Sports and teams from college to pros, Reds, Buckeyes, Bengals, Browns, Food, US politics, religion, news, AND MORE! You MUST register with an acct. to post here. The access to read as non member is open. Please register and gain an acct. with user name to post and ENJOY this site. (June 11, 2019)

Quote of the day: A positive outlook is what leads to positive results.

WELCOME new member AMaizawing (April 03, 2020)


Poll: When will things return to normal?
You do not have permission to vote in this poll.
November 2020
26.67%
4 26.67%
January 2021
20.00%
3 20.00%
June 2021
53.33%
8 53.33%
Total 15 vote(s) 100%
* You voted for this item. [Show Results]

Share on Facebook Share on Twitter

Thread Rating:
  • 3 Vote(s) - 4.33 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
***BREAKING*** SYNCRO may be right on the VIRUS coming from lab in CHINA *****
Cincy, nobody is claiming this was engineered by humans.

Some have argued it was manipulated through GoF (which I fully believe) within accepted research boundaries.

The ChiComs are notoriously poor with safety and security protocol, that cannot be disputed.

This is how the leak happened. Itâ€s actually quite simple.
Reply
(06-09-2021, 03:18 PM)Syncro Wrote: Cincy, nobody is claiming this was engineered by humans.

Some have argued it was manipulated through GoF (which I fully believe) within accepted research boundaries.

The ChiComs are notoriously poor with safety and security protocol, that cannot be disputed.

This is how the leak happened. Itâ€s actually quite simple.
The kind of stuff the North Carolina lab was doing would be what techniques they would use. That results in a chimeric virus that I do not think wouldn't be detected. I think a recombination accident is the more likely scenario for a lab leak. But I still think that sort of recombination far more likely in nature. Likely what led to SARS1.
Reply
How is gain of function different from "engineered by humans"?
I'm against all over generalizations.
Reply
I just wonder what we are doing by funding stuff like this with/for China.  Yes we are a trade partner.  A trade partner with a nation with huge aspirations, that not only is a human rights hell hole, but a nation with a shaky at best relationship with a nation recently awakened (the people) to the fact it was getting rectally raped in a bizarre 50 year relationship.  

I donâ€t know, are people in our govt this diabolical?  this personally greedy?  or just beyond hopelessly naive?  If itâ€s either of the first two I would demand swift and brutal action taken.  If itâ€s the last, how on earth did these people ever garner these levers of power within our government/bureaucracy to begin with???  

I donâ€t know.  Itâ€s just beyond comprehension to me that we would be doing anything remotely in the same universe of potential bio weapon stuff with those thugs.  

Someone makes sense of this insanity for me.   Confused
Reply
The idea seems to be:

1. Many zoonotic viruses come from China.
2. It makes sense to study them ahead of time.
3. If we fund a bit of the work, we get the information quickly in reviews and have a chance to keep tabs on what they are doing technically. The funding was pretty small, the parts I've seen.

I have not seen any evidence this involves bioweapons development. As noted, folks doing that, if anyone is doing that, would start off with a much more lethal virus, logically.
I'm against all over generalizations.
Reply
(06-09-2021, 03:43 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I just wonder what we are doing by funding stuff like this with/for China.  Yes we are a trade partner.  A trade partner with a nation with huge aspirations, that not only is a human rights hell hole, but a nation with a shaky at best relationship with a nation recently awakened (the people) to the fact it was getting rectally raped in a bizarre 50 year relationship.  

I donâ€t know, are people in our govt this diabolical?  this personally greedy?  or just beyond hopelessly naive?  If itâ€s either of the first two I would demand swift and brutal action taken.  If itâ€s the last, how on earth did these people ever garner these levers of power within our government/bureaucracy to begin with???  

I donâ€t know.  Itâ€s just beyond comprehension to me that we would be doing anything remotely in the same universe of potential bio weapon stuff with those thugs.  

Someone makes sense of this insanity for me.   Confused
It's where they had SARS 1 and the bats with coronaviruses. And they had a lab. I don't know why we were giving them any money but it seems indirect because people here wanted an in so they could get in on it with them. Partnership.
Reply
A couple of articles to illustrate recombination. More likely to happen in nature due to greater likelihood of 2 viruses inhabiting the same cells. 
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15480857
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15019585
Reply
(06-09-2021, 03:39 PM)cincydawg Wrote: How is gain of function different from "engineered by humans"?

That's a good question and perhaps a fine line.
Reply
(06-09-2021, 06:32 PM)Sanitarian2 Wrote:
(06-09-2021, 03:39 PM)cincydawg Wrote: How is gain of function different from "engineered by humans"?

That's a good question and perhaps a fine line.

Stop. All that indecision and indecisiveness is giving Cincy a boner.
1
Reply
Has anyone heard any strong denials from Fauci himself in regards to the funding trail?
Reply
(06-09-2021, 09:17 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: Has anyone heard any strong denials from Fauci himself in regards to the funding trail?
No just his lies about privatized funding and a technical detail of "the US hasn't funded GOF research, but they dude funnel money to a company who did GOF research at WIV.

The research was GOF research and all but technically the grant wasn't specifically for it, even though the guy admittedly was focusing on coronavirus GOF research.

So he lied through his teeth

Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
Reply
So, I still have seen zero actual evidence that GoF work was going on at Wuhan, or that, even if it was, it has anything to do with the pandemic. Zero evidence.

Not to mention zero evidence Fauci had anything to do with funding such work.
I'm against all over generalizations.
Reply


Possibly Related Threads…
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Breaking: "2 Massive Solar Flares Knock out Cell Phones computerbuck 8 131 02-28-2024, 09:44 AM
Last Post: P1tchblack
  Coming for your kids ChinaBuck 0 48 01-20-2024, 06:37 AM
Last Post: ChinaBuck
  US DoE/Granholm invite China/Russia to tour nuke sites Syncro 1 73 11-09-2023, 02:09 PM
Last Post: maize
  McConnell issues urgent warning on Iran, Russia and China ChinaBuck 10 184 10-22-2023, 10:41 PM
Last Post: ChinaBuck
  Future of Retail - is coming after you ChinaBuck 19 348 10-15-2023, 08:47 PM
Last Post: stxbuck
Video Video of China-Joe kicking his dog K9Buck 5 142 10-06-2023, 07:31 PM
Last Post: ChinaBuck
  Pope Francis rebukes 'irresponsible' US on climate change compared to China maize 17 292 10-04-2023, 10:01 PM
Last Post: ScarletHayes
  China Using US Influencers? ChinaBuck 0 65 09-24-2023, 06:25 AM
Last Post: ChinaBuck
  China Claims parts of Russia and India TroyKidd 5 108 09-01-2023, 06:47 PM
Last Post: ChinaBuck
  War with China (hysteria?) K9Buck 14 247 08-10-2023, 01:32 PM
Last Post: K9Buck

Forum Jump:


Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)
https://www.facebook.com/Zigbeenuthousecom-425755324858973/?modal=admin_todo_tour