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So the Chinese killed 500,000 Americans and the Democrats will do nothing?
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History sure can change over 100 years.   This time in the 1920s China was backward, was dominated under spheres of influence by countries setting up shop there like GB, France, Germany, Russia, had been under rule of the last dynasty prior to Boxer Rebellion and fell....and was on it's way to being tortured by Japan in a decade or so.   Oh, my, how things change.
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Really the entire pacific rim is killing the rest of the world in trade because phones, computers, tvs, microchips, lights, solar panels, medical devices, clothing, toys, and hundreds of other things are all strictly being made there.

They've got the rest of the world hooked on their slave labor.

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(06-08-2021, 05:30 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:
(06-08-2021, 05:26 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Agree Trump would have put on individual tariffs and would have verbally called them out.   

Here is the big question and why we will never know the truth.  What will we do if we see it came from a lab?  I will go on record if Biden tries to get any type of world effort against China that will be an act of war from their point of view.
Does anyone see a coalition forming against China?  They seem to be untouchable for some reason(primary goods provider probably). They pollute?  No problem, try to do better by 2050.  They have human rights violations?  It’s all good. 

There is no global political will to hold China responsible if it were found that they deliberately did this.
There will not be one against China.  There is one person who called them out  .One person who addressed them as far as trade.  To say that though is bad.    We are the only nation who could stand up to them and we will not thus if we won't why or how will others.  As far as human rights and pollution no other country followed the rules.  You do not seem to understand those big eco meetings and human rights meetings meant only the US had to follow the rules, the others just have to promise and pinky swear to follow them.
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(06-08-2021, 05:36 PM)Hightop77 Wrote:
(06-08-2021, 05:26 PM)Soupcity Kid Wrote: Agree Trump would have put on individual tariffs and would have verbally called them out.   

Here is the big question and why we will never know the truth.  What will we do if we see it came from a lab?  I will go on record if Biden tries to get any type of world effort against China that will be an act of war from their point of view.

The chances of the people pulling Biden's strings instructing him to take action against China are literally zero.  The super billionaire oligarchs who funded Biden's campaign became even wealthier during the Covid shut down.  Besides, Biden's handlers could not care less about the American people.
Agreed.  Much more convenient to blame Trump and his supporters. see border "not crisis" lol
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(06-08-2021, 05:42 PM)zigbee Wrote: History sure can change over 100 years.   This time in the 1920s China was backward, was dominated under spheres of influence by countries setting up shop there like GB, France, Germany, Russia, had been under rule of the last dynasty prior to Boxer Rebellion and fell....and was on it's way to being tortured by Japan in a decade or so.   Oh, my, how things change.
Yes they did.  Yes the times have changed and so have the goals.  I specified the changes under the chicom rule and the brutal extremes they use to maintain that control.
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(06-08-2021, 08:49 AM)Alabuckeye Wrote: K9.....you are pegging the hyperbole meter lately....the only way this is true is that one has to believe that the CCP intentionally developed and released the virus.....and there aren't but a handful of knowledgeable people that believe that.  Even those that believe that the CCP is covering up, of which I am one, don't go as far as the intentionality.

As far as the 'all Democrats work for China'......that's just nonsense.

The Chinese Government operates that lab and, no, I never said or implied that they intentionally released it.  Nevertheless, their failure has resulted in the deaths of 500,000 Americans and catastrophic economic damage.  They need to pay, but the Democrats will never do anything. 

It's no different than if I have a giant bonfire next to your property and the embers float over and burn your house down.  It was an accident but it was still my fault.
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I’d still like an answer on why GoF suddenly became a priority 11 days before Trump was sworn in.  I realize just asking that question makes me a “conspiracy theorist,” and this question will go unanswered, but it sure would be nice to know what went on there
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(06-08-2021, 09:39 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The Chinese are culpable for their response and for their continued behaviors that lead to these situations. They are also stonewalling investigations and engaging in propaganda regarding origins. There should be consequences and payment. 
 Did they do it on purpose? I can't believe they're that stupid and reckless.

Great points too, 3rd!
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(06-08-2021, 12:29 PM)cincydawg Wrote: If we presume Democrats will do nothing of consequence, does that imply Republicans would have been truly hard core about this?

Trump would be!
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(06-08-2021, 07:05 PM)K9Buck Wrote:
(06-08-2021, 09:39 AM)3rdgensooner Wrote: The Chinese are culpable for their response and for their continued behaviors that lead to these situations. They are also stonewalling investigations and engaging in propaganda regarding origins. There should be consequences and payment. 
 Did they do it on purpose? I can't believe they're that stupid and reckless.

Great points too, 3rd!

And he is right the CCP is not stupid and reckless.  But, they are that evil and determined.
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(06-08-2021, 07:02 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I’d still like an answer on why GoF suddenly became a priority 11 days before Trump was sworn in.  I realize just asking that question makes me a “conspiracy theorist,” and this question will go unanswered, but it sure would be nice to know what went on there

Feds lift gain-of-function research pause, offer guidance | CIDRAP (umn.edu)

Lifted Dec. 19, 2017.

That is why these "rumors" and FB memes and whatnot bear checking, carefully, before assuming they are true.
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(06-08-2021, 07:02 PM)ScarletHayes Wrote: I’d still like an answer on why GoF suddenly became a priority 11 days before Trump was sworn in.  I realize just asking that question makes me a “conspiracy theorist,” and this question will go unanswered, but it sure would be nice to know what went on there
I suspect that it had been going on secretly for years and this was their way of making it official.

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