05-05-2021, 12:27 PM
(05-05-2021, 11:29 AM)Georgem80 Wrote:(05-05-2021, 10:27 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote:(05-05-2021, 09:54 AM)Georgem80 Wrote:(05-05-2021, 09:11 AM)Conanthelibrarian Wrote:(05-05-2021, 08:48 AM)Georgem80 Wrote: I can only speak for myself. I only promote pride in their school as an identity.Â
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I would like to ask why you/we don't identify as white?Â
We (as a fellow white male) seem to be the only ones who cant have racial pride or identity. I dont often think of myself as white either, but why not? Everyone else seems to identify primarily with their race/color, why dont whites do it?
If you describe me Iâ€m a tall, bald, white guy. Thatâ€s what I am. But, Iâ€ve never had to think about my race in positive or negative. Itâ€s never hindered me. I suppose I could find ways it helped me, but, thatâ€s a pointless exercise. I donâ€t feel any kind of kinship with anyone because theyâ€re white. I have nieces and nephews that are biracial. Iâ€ll kill a person before I let someone do them harm. When I was an athlete, team is all that mattered. As a coach, Iâ€d play anyone that helped me win.
I also had a psychopath father that who was as racist as anyone Iâ€ve come across. Since I decided he was the worst human I have ever met, I do most everything opposite of him to resounding success.
Call it brainwashing. Call it lack of pride(not sure why thatâ€s a thing). My individual effort has put me where I am today more so than the color of my skin.Â
Bottom line, I donâ€t care about the color of my skin as it isnâ€t part of who I am.
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I appreciate the response, and understand completely your point of view. Beyond your own personal label, why do you think white people in general dont identify with their race like everyone else?  Or arent allowed to without consequences? I think alot of whites would feel very sheepish about saying that they are proud to be white. That shouldn't be a bad thing, but is. Why?
First I donâ€t know why anyone would want to be proud of something that isnâ€t within their control. Donâ€t feel shame for it either. I can only surmise an answer. Europeans believed in cultural superiority, but had a large nationalistic pride. Even as this country was developing, it was about the struggles of the Irish, Germans,Italians, Poles, Slavs etc. There was more emphasis on that. So heritage was more ethnic and could be traced. The various ethnic festivals that occur each year would be evidence.
If I were to trace the history of African Americans , some donâ€t have that heritage. Theyâ€re assigned a giant continent and lumped together. The communal aspect of slavery and the culture that developed was pretty much what many can trace back to.
Im not sure if there was ever a white heritage that could be traced to be inclusive in history.Â
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Interesting response. Thanks for that.  I love to ask history teachers questions. they always have a good view on things.