(03-04-2021, 05:30 PM)TakeThePoints Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 03:25 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 02:55 PM)TakeThePoints Wrote: How does he get statements out, now that the left has taken away his free speech?

When did his free speech get taken away?

Ask the main stream media, facebook, twitter......

Name me a country, that wasn't deplorable, that banned books and limited free speech.  This country is turning into a 3rd world outhouse thanks to you liberals. 

What no more sexual identity for Mr Potato Head, does that mean there will be no more Tater Tots?

I think you worry too much. What books have been banned? The publishers of Dr Seuss decided to remove four SKUs. What free speech has been limited? People can still speak their mind. I couldn't be more indifferent to Mr/Ms Potato Head. We have Ms on the coffee table right now. My kid plays with it on occasion.

(03-04-2021, 05:34 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:29 PM)cincydawg Wrote: I support the right of a private business to control its customer base on whatever grounds they deem suitable.

Which is a traditional conservative platform stance. But not these days

I would be sympathetic to that view if power and access wasn't so narrowly controlled. Jacket said something about a little trust busting. I think we need a lot of trust busting at this time. Not just the Twits and Amazons but they are definitely far too powerful.

The left is called a lot of things, but never an advocate for free speech.

(03-04-2021, 05:36 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:30 PM)TakeThePoints Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 03:25 PM)Jacketbuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 02:55 PM)TakeThePoints Wrote: How does he get statements out, now that the left has taken away his free speech?

When did his free speech get taken away?

Ask the main stream media, facebook, twitter......

Name me a country, that wasn't deplorable, that banned books and limited free speech.  This country is turning into a 3rd world outhouse thanks to you liberals. 

What no more sexual identity for Mr Potato Head, does that mean there will be no more Tater Tots?

I think you worry too much. What books have been banned? The publishers of Dr Seuss decided to remove four SKUs. What free speech has been limited? People can still speak their mind. I couldn't be more indifferent to Mr/Ms Potato Head. We have Ms on the coffee table right now. My kid plays with it on occasion.

what about the Texas fight song.?

(03-04-2021, 05:49 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:34 PM)Alabuckeye Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:29 PM)cincydawg Wrote: I support the right of a private business to control its customer base on whatever grounds they deem suitable.

Which is a traditional conservative platform stance. But not these days

I would be sympathetic to that view if power and access wasn't so narrowly controlled. Jacket said something about a little trust busting. I think we need a lot of trust busting at this time. Not just the Twits and Amazons but they are definitely far too powerful.

I totally agree.

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)K9Buck Wrote: The left is called a lot of things, but never an advocate for free speech.

The left is very anti free speech. It started on campus and is now nationwide. They quibble that it isn't the government so essentially the first amendment stands but that's incredibly disingenuous. I have no doubt given their animosity to free speech and open discourse they will be working hard to further erode the first as well. As of now they're making the first amendment somewhat moot.

People like jacket are the problem, they love mass censorship.

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(03-04-2021, 06:05 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)K9Buck Wrote: The left is called a lot of things, but never an advocate for free speech.

The left is very anti free speech. It started on campus and is now nationwide. They quibble that it isn't the government so essentially the first amendment stands but that's incredibly disingenuous. I have no doubt given their animosity to free speech and open discourse they will be working hard to further erode the first as well. As of now they're making the first amendment somewhat moot.

It doesn't seem to bother leftists that they are as keen to ban speech just like totalitarian despots.

(03-04-2021, 06:16 PM)davebucknut Wrote: People like jacket are the problem, they love mass censorship.

Jacket is a statist.  He opposes all speech that doesn't glorify the party/state.

(03-04-2021, 06:05 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)K9Buck Wrote: The left is called a lot of things, but never an advocate for free speech.

The left is very anti free speech. It started on campus and is now nationwide. They quibble that it isn't the government so essentially the first amendment stands but that's incredibly disingenuous. I have no doubt given their animosity to free speech and open discourse they will be working hard to further erode the first as well. As of now they're making the first amendment somewhat moot.

This is true.  Look at the riots on campus at Berkeley when they brought in conservative speakers.

Look at the attacks on people for just wearing Make America Great Again hats

Looks that the marches and attacks by leftist groups on Trump followers at rallies in various cities.

Look at the cancel culture vs artists and actors who are conservative and voice opinion.  

Shutting down twitter accts on conservatives is ongoing.  Same with shutting down conservative thoughts and views on FB.

Seems to me like a lot of snow flakes around here who complain about every tiny thing.

(03-04-2021, 06:25 PM)zigbee Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 06:05 PM)3rdgensooner Wrote:

(03-04-2021, 05:57 PM)K9Buck Wrote: The left is called a lot of things, but never an advocate for free speech.

The left is very anti free speech. It started on campus and is now nationwide. They quibble that it isn't the government so essentially the first amendment stands but that's incredibly disingenuous. I have no doubt given their animosity to free speech and open discourse they will be working hard to further erode the first as well. As of now they're making the first amendment somewhat moot.

This is true.  Look at the riots on campus at Berkeley when they brought in conservative speakers.

Look at the attacks on people for just wearing Make America Great Again hats

Looks that the marches and attacks by leftist groups on Trump followers at rallies in various cities.

Look at the cancel culture vs artists and actors who are conservative and voice opinion.  

Shutting down twitter accts on conservatives is ongoing.  Same with shutting down conservative thoughts and views on FB.

This is a very distinctive difference between the left and right. Now, I’m not saying the right at times hasn’t done some of these sorts of things, but the left has been dramatically more inclined to do so. This in large part is what led me away from being a liberal that I once was. The 18th century French Enlightenment of “liberte” centered around the freedom of expression. Liberals today have done a 180 on the subject, it’s now about the complete control of that expression.